DGMPGDec 1.2.0 RC5 - Page 5

hippoth · 10th February 2005, 09:24

Quote:

Originally posted by neuron2
If you were not around at that time

Yes...thats my problem...I didn´t know it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyberia
I could offer help in this regard...

No...I know how to handle a backup of a DVD...sure

(look at my registration date)
It´s just laziness to look for the right vobs because sometimes I backup the whole DVD to HD...not just the main movie files.

Guest · 10th February 2005, 14:31

If I get some spare coding bandwidth, I'll put it back in.

hippoth · 10th February 2005, 19:02

Oh great...be sure of my thankfulness!

cw_uk · 10th February 2005, 19:46

Quote:

Originally posted by neuron2
You can use the output to determine whether pulldown is present and what patterns it has. The numbers on the right are the pulldown digits. They can be 0, 1, 2, or 3. See here for a technical discussion:

http://www.doom9.org/ivtc-tut.htm#Te...GuideToDVD2AVI

For example, I can see from the frame numbers to the left that there has not been any pulldown up to that point. I can conclude that you have a top-field first movie. If it is NTSC, it is probably interlaced but may be hard telecined. To distinguish the two, you'd need to step through the output and see if you get a pattern of 3 progressive frames followed by 2 interlaced frames.

Thank you for that very clear description, it just knocked me off a bit where the day before i had used RC2 where i just told it the path and it spat it all out for me then the next day with RC3 i got that lol.

Guest · 10th February 2005, 21:26

Quote:

Originally posted by cw_uk
it just knocked me off a bit where the day before i had used RC2 where i just told it the path and it spat it all out for me then the next day with RC3 i got that lol.

Now you're confusing me.
Spat all what out? There wasn't a compatible DGParse released until RC3.

You know what, if you don't know what DGParse is for, then there is no reason for you to be using it.

Bluedan · 10th February 2005, 23:07

Neuron, I totally disagree with the current agreement!

hippoth, the "new" way is not even a click more when drawing a rectangle around the main movie VOBs for selection and if you were really comfortable with DVD structures you'd easily spot the main movie VOBs which lie anyway lined up next to each other in your folder because of the sequential numbering, even if you simply put a copy of the whole DVD on HD!
I cannot help thinking that you've become a bit rusty, he?
I feel ashamed that you dare nagging a busy coder like Donald just for your personal selfish comfort.

I don't want to sound too harsh, but the discussion about this point is already over, Neuron was right in his first reply to your request and I don't understand why he gives in...

The big part of the board members agreed on this, why should he waste his valuable time for this on a single users requests who is - as he admits himself - obviously lazy. And it' sooo obvious! I feel like this really doesn't deserve to be a reason to change the opening dialogue again !

I'm so glad that these people spend their time for writing free programmes while I didn't advance since doing assembler for the c=64!
Truly, I find this demanding! Period.

Cyberia · 10th February 2005, 23:37

@Bluedan - I couldn't agree more. Well said.

aaar9800 · 11th February 2005, 01:47

yeah, come on...

If you know that the first file of the main movie is in the 3rd VTS (for example)- VTS_03_1.vob in other words, then I have no idea how someone could not understand that the end of the main movie would be VTS_03_X.vob, where X is the largest number it gets too in the 3rd VTS. Also its the one before the VTS_04_0.vob(If there is a 4th VTS) Anyway, I don't think that we should be saying whether or not neuron2 should add what hippoth asked for - it's for neuron2 to decide. I personally don't care if the autoincrement will be back, but do believe that it is completely unnecessary.

Guest · 11th February 2005, 01:50

Please don't be hard on hippoth! I always encourage users to speak their minds. He's been polite. He has strong views; so do I! It's not a crime. I certainly wouldn't want him to be discouraged from making suggestions down the line.

So, I appreciate everybody's positions but we can all be a little tolerant, right? I knew you could.

Bluedan · 11th February 2005, 03:43

Quote:

Originally posted by neuron2
I always encourage users to speak their minds.

Well, then I'd like to have automatic AVS creation with, let't say...ehh... best settings, in the next major release, ok? Kindly-wise.

No more anger, but sometimes it seems like people are forgetting, that this is supposed to be a community, where singles must stand back... couples welcome! ...Mhh, now it's getting the wrong way...

BTW, Neuron, by looking at your postage times I cannot figure out when you might have put on your night cup in the meantime? You're not actually 66 years old and feel refreshed after 4 hours of sleep?

Guest · 11th February 2005, 03:55

@Bluedan

Was that the night I didn't sleep at all?

I'm 52 and look like this:

http://neuron2.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=619

Everybody is welcome to post their pic in that thread.

Please define "best settings". You know, I hope, that you can make your AVS template generate any default settings that you like.

fccHandler · 11th February 2005, 08:00

You're 52???

Is that human years or cat years?

Truthfully man, I would never have guessed it from your pic. I just hope I look that good when I'm 52! (13 years from now...)

Guest · 11th February 2005, 10:03

Ya gotta be a swimmer to look that good.

MacAddict · 11th February 2005, 10:20

Quote:

Originally posted by fccHandler
You're 52???

Is that human years or cat years?

Truthfully man, I would never have guessed it from your pic. I just hope I look that good when I'm 52! (13 years from now...)

Totally agree! I should think even the celebrity types in Hollywood would be jealous of you Donald

So the cold waters of Lake Michigan is the secret ay

Personally I'm more jealous of where you live, a great city and certainly my favorite!

Anyways, no problems with delay or anything else here using RC3. Thanks again for the continued effort!

zeus163 · 11th February 2005, 18:38

I've been having some problems with the delay value that is being reported for audio by rc3 in my .ts files. Normally I open up my .ts files in Project X, cut out commercials, and then demux using project x. Next I would open up the created m2v in DGIndex. That way I can use the original audio. But some of the HD stations that I cap don't open up in Project X. If that is the case, I then edit out commercials with HDTV2MPEG2. I needed to do this for a recent cap and ran rc3 on it. The delay value it reported back was nothing on the ac3 file. Which surprised me greatly. When I muxed the two back together after encoding the file, the audio was out of sync. I then tried to run the edited .ts file through autoGordionKnot(?) v. 1.89 and the delay that was reported back was -365. When I ran that offset on the .ac3 file and muxed it with the encoded file it was perfectly in sync.

I then did another cap from the same channel and this time rc3 reported back a positive delay of 4880. In the meantime, I had upgraded AGK to 1.90 and it also reported back 4880, but when I tried this value with the encoded file it was super out of sync. I then used an older version of DGIndex and got a delay value of -357. When I used that on the .ac3 file and muxed back together, it was in sync.

I'm just curious to why there would be such significant differences and why the older versions seem to have the correct values. When I get home I can edit a short clip and send it off--if the cut clip also shows what is happening.

len0x · 11th February 2005, 18:52

FYI AGK 1.89 was using DGIndex 1.1.0 (1.90 is using RC3), so that's what delay issues should be compared to.

Guest · 11th February 2005, 20:23

@zeus163

You have to give me a clip that shows a significant difference when processed directly with 1.2.0RC3 and some earlier version that you think is correct. I don't want to hear anything about this cutter or that cutter, GK, etc. When you give me the file, tell me which version you are comparing 1.2.0RC3 to. Thank you.

bob0r · 11th February 2005, 20:34

Now that DGMPGDec can open .PVA files. i got a question/request.

I have BBC.2.England.20.Jan.2005.pva which i open and i make a .d2v file. for example:

cap MPA DELAY -300ms.mpa
cap.d2v

Now notice the -300ms, when i encode like a xvid sample, and i merge the video/audio, ofcourse the audio is desynced.

I fix this by delaying the audio with -300ms in nandub.

This works...but,

Is it possible to sync the .mpa file with DGMPGDec?

PVAStrumento.exe (2.0.25) demuxes a .pva into video/audio with an option to sync the audio, so it is possible i guess.

.. is it?

zeus163 · 11th February 2005, 21:49

@neuron2

Thanks for your response.

In order for me to send you a file that is small enough, I would have to cut it. If that is OK then I will do it. If not, I will cap a few minutes tonight when I am at home (if that is acceptable).

How big can the file size be?

Thanks for helping out. I appreciate all of your hard work as I know that I wouldn't be able to do it.

cw_uk · 11th February 2005, 23:43

Quote:

Originally posted by neuron2
Now you're confusing me.
Spat all what out? There wasn't a compatible DGParse released until RC3.

You know what, if you don't know what DGParse is for, then there is no reason for you to be using it.

Didnt realise i came off sounding like a complete n00b. i know exactly what DGParse is for. i just didnt know what to do with the latest version as it had no readme with it to say what had changed. i just happened to mention the incorect version i was using at the time.

10th February 2005, 23:07	#86 \| Link
Bluedan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: were people always get wet feet Posts: 328	choosing VOBs dialogue Neuron, I totally disagree with the current agreement! hippoth, the "new" way is not even a click more when drawing a rectangle around the main movie VOBs for selection and if you were really comfortable with DVD structures you'd easily spot the main movie VOBs which lie anyway lined up next to each other in your folder because of the sequential numbering, even if you simply put a copy of the whole DVD on HD! I cannot help thinking that you've become a bit rusty, he? I feel ashamed that you dare nagging a busy coder like Donald just for your personal selfish comfort. I don't want to sound too harsh, but the discussion about this point is already over, Neuron was right in his first reply to your request and I don't understand why he gives in... The big part of the board members agreed on this, why should he waste his valuable time for this on a single users requests who is - as he admits himself - obviously lazy. And it' sooo obvious! I feel like this really doesn't deserve to be a reason to change the opening dialogue again ! I'm so glad that these people spend their time for writing free programmes while I didn't advance since doing assembler for the c=64! Truly, I find this demanding! Period. __________________ I'm probably misconfused...

11th February 2005, 03:55	#91 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	@Bluedan Was that the night I didn't sleep at all? I'm 52 and look like this: http://neuron2.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=619 Everybody is welcome to post their pic in that thread. Please define "best settings". You know, I hope, that you can make your AVS template generate any default settings that you like. Last edited by Guest; 11th February 2005 at 03:57.

11th February 2005, 08:00	#92 \| Link
fccHandler Registered Jedi Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Georgia, U.S.A. Posts: 733	You're 52??? Is that human years or cat years? Truthfully man, I would never have guessed it from your pic. I just hope I look that good when I'm 52! (13 years from now...) __________________ May the FOURCC be with you...

11th February 2005, 18:52	#96 \| Link
len0x I'm afraid we've to stop Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amongst mad people Posts: 5,398	FYI AGK 1.89 was using DGIndex 1.1.0 (1.90 is using RC3), so that's what delay issues should be compared to. __________________ Gordian Knot Family: Gordian Knot: website, download Auto Gordian Knot: Website and download, tutorial, FAQ

11th February 2005, 20:34	#98 \| Link
bob0r Pain and suffering Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,337	audio delay question/request Now that DGMPGDec can open .PVA files. i got a question/request. I have BBC.2.England.20.Jan.2005.pva which i open and i make a .d2v file. for example: cap MPA DELAY -300ms.mpa cap.d2v Now notice the -300ms, when i encode like a xvid sample, and i merge the video/audio, ofcourse the audio is desynced. I fix this by delaying the audio with -300ms in nandub. This works...but, Is it possible to sync the .mpa file with DGMPGDec? PVAStrumento.exe (2.0.25) demuxes a .pva into video/audio with an option to sync the audio, so it is possible i guess. .. is it?

10th February 2005, 14:31	#82 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	If I get some spare coding bandwidth, I'll put it back in.

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hippoth playboi Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dschörmänie Posts: 100	Oh great...be sure of my thankfulness!

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Cyberia Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Inside Posts: 718	@Bluedan - I couldn't agree more. Well said.

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aaar9800 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 62	yeah, come on... If you know that the first file of the main movie is in the 3rd VTS (for example)- VTS_03_1.vob in other words, then I have no idea how someone could not understand that the end of the main movie would be VTS_03_X.vob, where X is the largest number it gets too in the 3rd VTS. Also its the one before the VTS_04_0.vob(If there is a 4th VTS) Anyway, I don't think that we should be saying whether or not neuron2 should add what hippoth asked for - it's for neuron2 to decide. I personally don't care if the autoincrement will be back, but do believe that it is completely unnecessary.

11th February 2005, 01:50	#89 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	Please don't be hard on hippoth! I always encourage users to speak their minds. He's been polite. He has strong views; so do I! It's not a crime. I certainly wouldn't want him to be discouraged from making suggestions down the line. So, I appreciate everybody's positions but we can all be a little tolerant, right? I knew you could.

11th February 2005, 10:03	#93 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	Ya gotta be a swimmer to look that good.

11th February 2005, 18:38	#95 \| Link
zeus163 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 134	I've been having some problems with the delay value that is being reported for audio by rc3 in my .ts files. Normally I open up my .ts files in Project X, cut out commercials, and then demux using project x. Next I would open up the created m2v in DGIndex. That way I can use the original audio. But some of the HD stations that I cap don't open up in Project X. If that is the case, I then edit out commercials with HDTV2MPEG2. I needed to do this for a recent cap and ran rc3 on it. The delay value it reported back was nothing on the ac3 file. Which surprised me greatly. When I muxed the two back together after encoding the file, the audio was out of sync. I then tried to run the edited .ts file through autoGordionKnot(?) v. 1.89 and the delay that was reported back was -365. When I ran that offset on the .ac3 file and muxed it with the encoded file it was perfectly in sync. I then did another cap from the same channel and this time rc3 reported back a positive delay of 4880. In the meantime, I had upgraded AGK to 1.90 and it also reported back 4880, but when I tried this value with the encoded file it was super out of sync. I then used an older version of DGIndex and got a delay value of -357. When I used that on the .ac3 file and muxed back together, it was in sync. I'm just curious to why there would be such significant differences and why the older versions seem to have the correct values. When I get home I can edit a short clip and send it off--if the cut clip also shows what is happening.

11th February 2005, 20:23	#97 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	@zeus163 You have to give me a clip that shows a significant difference when processed directly with 1.2.0RC3 and some earlier version that you think is correct. I don't want to hear anything about this cutter or that cutter, GK, etc. When you give me the file, tell me which version you are comparing 1.2.0RC3 to. Thank you.

11th February 2005, 21:49	#99 \| Link
zeus163 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 134	@neuron2 Thanks for your response. In order for me to send you a file that is small enough, I would have to cut it. If that is OK then I will do it. If not, I will cap a few minutes tonight when I am at home (if that is acceptable). How big can the file size be? Thanks for helping out. I appreciate all of your hard work as I know that I wouldn't be able to do it.

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