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Old 19th August 2018, 22:52   #52101  |  Link
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Off topic ... really dislike this stuff in madVR thread!
I hate to sound like a Troll, but it is not really a madVR thread anymore. I think because it has matured or is maturing to a "paid" app eventually, that is it is going that way.


But hey who am I to mock someone that has put his heart and soul into something as good as it is, and is going to be. Good luck to him.
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Old 19th August 2018, 22:57   #52102  |  Link
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every command from madshi about a paid version was about a paid version and a free version.
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Old 19th August 2018, 22:59   #52103  |  Link
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every command from madshi about a paid version was about a paid version and a free version.
Ok, but you cant be naive enough to think they will be the same.
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Old 19th August 2018, 23:00   #52104  |  Link
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never said that.
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Old 19th August 2018, 23:03   #52105  |  Link
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never said that.
So I don't get your point then, but hence the way the thread has gone.

To be honest most of the stuff I see you post is you snapping at people, so please carry on.
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Old 20th August 2018, 02:08   #52106  |  Link
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I'm on a 980 so I would like to make sure they support 10 bit decoding etc.
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every nvidia card since the 960 release date can do HEVC 10 bit.

so you ask for something that's a given for over 3.5 years.
I think 960 has a newer video processing unit (or whatever it is called) than 970&980 - the latter only supports hybrid decoding:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia...n_PureVideo_HD
But this is a hardware limitation so it obviously can't be fixed by sw and even if it could be madVR is a renderer, not a decoder, so wrong thread

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Old 20th August 2018, 05:54   #52107  |  Link
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DW, if there are OT posts the discussion generally doesn't last long.. We've discussed hardware/software decoders on here a few times with it being part of the video playback chain and all no biggie.

Yeah huhn can be direct but he's also one of the more helpful and knowledgeable people here so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Old 20th August 2018, 19:08   #52108  |  Link
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Now that they're announced the speculating can begin on how the RTX 2070, 2080, and 2080 Ti will perform compared to the existing cards with MadVR. Is it simply about FLOPS, or do some of the big architectural changes totally change the calculation?
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Old 20th August 2018, 20:05   #52109  |  Link
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The new GPUs are focusing on AI and this could end up being a good thing thing for MadVR.

Maybe we can have some implementation on that per pixel calculation that AI will do in games.

Let's see. I'm going to replace my 1080Ti with a 2080Ti
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Old 20th August 2018, 20:06   #52110  |  Link
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polaris performs terrible with NGU and the gflop are clearly not bad at all.

nnedi was running much better on GCN 1-2 than fermi kepler and that with a hand break.

so no we sadly have to wait and see.
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Old 20th August 2018, 20:40   #52111  |  Link
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The new GPUs are focusing on AI and this could end up being a good thing thing for MadVR.

Maybe we can have some implementation on that per pixel calculation that AI will do in games.

Let's see. I'm going to replace my 1080Ti with a 2080Ti
At £1300??? You are feeding the beast good sir and it will only bite you in the end.
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Old 20th August 2018, 20:55   #52112  |  Link
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the founder is 1200 USD the normal better cards will have an MSRP at around 1k usd that's not even 800 pounds.
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Let's see. I'm going to replace my 1080Ti with a 2080Ti
I'm going to wait for others to test the waters and see how they perform.
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Old 20th August 2018, 21:29   #52114  |  Link
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At £1300??? You are feeding the beast good sir and it will only bite you in the end.
I'm going to be able to upgrade without putting too much money on, since I live in a country with such high taxes and everything is expensive I can sell my 1080Ti for the price I payed for in the past and this is almost the price of the 2080Ti.

Since I got ripped off by my country in the past and I have a relative going to the States soon. This will work to my advantage.
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Old 20th August 2018, 22:39   #52115  |  Link
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The new GPUs are focusing on AI and this could end up being a good thing thing for MadVR.

Maybe we can have some implementation on that per pixel calculation that AI will do in games.

Let's see. I'm going to replace my 1080Ti with a 2080Ti
Zero interest for me in the 2080ti to replace my 1080ti, as it still doesn't support HDMI 2.1, which for me is the main reason to update the 1080ti so that I can get 4K@60p in 10/12bits in RGB 4:4:4.

I suspect the 2080ti will be very short lived and replaced within 12/18 months by a cheaper, better model (hopefully 7nm to bring down this 285W) that will handle HDMI 2.1 and provide a 48Gb/s bandwidth for the 2-3 years to come.

That's the one I'm saving for
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Can the Tensor cores be used to dramatically speed up the pixel processing? The 2080 Ti specs list 110TFLOPs for FP16 with its Tensor cores.
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if it could be used for "everything" why do they even have CUDA cores?
not saying it can't be used for that but it is currently used for ray tracing and that's done in 3D rendering madVR isn't really doing that or let's say it differently madVR works with 2d textures.

and about HDMI 2.1 i wouldn't say the last word has been said about it yet.
personally this was the nail in the coffin for me. i mean i was totally sure it will have HDMI 2.1 it's finalise for such a long time already but there is a chance they have it and it is simply not tested yet:

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Q: What is the testing policy for HDMI 2.1 products?
A: All products must comply with Version 2.1 of the HDMI Specification and the HDMI 2.1 Compliance Test Specification (CTS); and until the CTS is available and a product has passed compliance testing a product cannot claim to be 2.1 compliant or market that it supports 2.1 features.
obviously no one should even thing about buying a card based on this guess.
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Can the Tensor cores be used to dramatically speed up the pixel processing? The 2080 Ti specs list 110TFLOPs for FP16 with its Tensor cores.
Theoretically you could use the Tensor Cores to apply a Neural-Network based scaler on the image, or any other NN-based image processing algorithm (sharpening, denoising, etc).

But you cannot just run any old algorithm through that, it would need to be specifically designed/trained for that task.
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Looking forward to your render times and gpu usage benchmarks.
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Old 21st August 2018, 02:12   #52120  |  Link
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Theoretically you could use the Tensor Cores to apply a Neural-Network based scaler on the image, or any other NN-based image processing algorithm (sharpening, denoising, etc).

But you cannot just run any old algorithm through that, it would need to be specifically designed/trained for that task.
Oh, I didn't realize the algorithms had to be specifically designed/trained for the task and that it wasn't general purpose friendly.
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