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2COOL’s guide to adding a “Insert Disc 2” clip
2COOL’s guide to adding a “Insert Disc 2” clip
Courtesy of 2CL Tools I used IFOedit 0.95/0.96 VobEdit 0.6 This works wonderfully for people who have splitted their movies with the first half on Disk 1 and the other half on Disk 2. It seems there's a demand for some who want a “Insert Disk 2” message at the end of first movie half so I'm providing a way to do it. When I first wrote this guide, it was originally for adding a blank cell at the end of a Title that didn’t have one. This would’ve helped on chapter skipping on last chapter. Then I realized that there was a more potential use by adding a “Insert Disc 2” message also. Doom9 user geffroman has done a superb job on creating and providing some “Insert Disk 2” VOBs for us. Also, geffroman has offered to create custom still clips if possible and a real good example is The Lord of the Rings he created. You can view and download them here. http://posunplugged.com/vobclips Many thanks Jeff for your great clips and valuable beta-testing of my guide! ____________________________________________________ 1. Open up your movie’s IFO in IfoEdit and look in your VTS Overview. You'll see something like below. Code:
PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:29:15.01 / 30 fps] (Programs: 4) (Cells: 4) (uses VOB-IDs: 3) [Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] : time: 00:07:31.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:07:31.20] [Frames: 13550] [Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 3/ 2] : time: 00:10:42.12 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:18:14.02] [Frames: 32822] [Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 3/ 3] : time: 00:01:40.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:19:54.23] [Frames: 35843] [Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 3/ 4] : time: 00:09:20.08 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:29:15.01] [Frames: 52651] In my example, I only have one PGC. Yours might contain multiple ones so in this step, write down the VTS_PGC_# that you want to add your “insert disk 2”. PGC_#: ______ __________________________________________________________ 2. We’ll be doing some IFO editing in following steps so I highly recommended that you backup/save your IFOs and BUPs to another folder in case you mess up in editing. If you do then you can just copy the original IFOs and BUPs back over your badly edited ones and then click on “Get VTS Sectors” button for sector corrections. __________________________________________________________ 3. Go to /VTS_C_ADT. Increment the “Number of VOBs in VTS_VOBS” by one. To do so, double left click and enter higher value. Write this new number down. (NEW) Number of VOBs in VTS_VOBS: _____ Here’s the before and after edit. Code:
OLD > Number of VOBs in VTS_VOBS 4 NEW > Number of VOBs in VTS_VOBS 5 New Cell VOB ID : ______ __________________________________________________________ 4. Now go to your PGC_# in / VTS_PGCITI / VTS_PGC_#. Increment the current “Number of Programs” and the “Number of Cells” by one. To do so, double left click on line and enter new value. For example... Code:
OLD > Number of Programs 4 OLD > Number of Cells 4 NEW > Number of Programs 5 NEW > Number of Cells 5 5. You’ll be doing a lot of window refreshing throughout this guide as IfoEdit doesn’t automatically refresh for you to see your edits so here’s a personal trick I do. Double click on “Show Reserved Values” checkbox located bottom left. __________________________________________________________ 6. Scroll down to “Program Map:” section. Due to Step 4, there is now a new Program which is Program_5. Change Program_5’s value to follow after Program_4 so in example below... Code:
OLD > Program_4: Entry cell number 4 OLD > Program_5: Entry cell number 4 NEW > Program_5: Entry cell number 5 __________________________________________________________ 7. Scroll down to “Cell Position in VOB” section at the bottom. We also have a new cell (Cell_5) added due to Step 3. Code:
Cell_1: has VOB ID 3 Cell_1: has Cell ID 1 Cell_2: has VOB ID 3 Cell_2: has Cell ID 2 Cell_3: has VOB ID 3 Cell_3: has Cell ID 3 Cell_4: has VOB ID 3 Cell_4: has Cell ID 4 Cell_5: has VOB ID # Cell_5: has Cell ID # Remember in Step 3, we wrote down our New Cell VOB ID value? Well, that’s the value we will be using for Cell_5 here. Also, Cell_5 Cell ID will always be “1”. So, double click and change each ID accordingly. Code:
NEW > Cell_5: has VOB ID 5 NEW > Cell_5: has Cell ID 1 __________________________________________________________ 8. We need to add configure our new cell as a new chapter so go to / PTT_SRPTI. Since we are working on PGC_1, we need to do some our edits in TTU_1. So if you were working on PGC_2, then TTU_2 is where you need to be. Anyway, this is what I have in TTU_1. Code:
TTU_1 PTTs: PTT_1: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_1: Program number (PGN) 1 PTT_2: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_2: Program number (PGN) 2 PTT_3: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_3: Program number (PGN) 3 PTT_4: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_4: Program number (PGN) 4
So since I have 5 programs in this example, I should have 5 chapters or PTTs (Part of Titleset Title). Got it? Good! Now, if you have extra PTTs present, just right click on last PTT and select “Delete Chapter”. Keep repeating from the last PTT until your desired Number of chapters is achieved. So in this guide’s example, I would stop at 5 PTTs remaining. If we initially had a lower amount of PTTs like 4, then we need to add a new PTT so that would it make it 5 PTTs, which is what we want. It’s easy, just right click on last PTT and select “Add chapter”. At this point, we should have our desired number of PTTs (chapters) achieved so now we need to edit our last chapter’s values. See the pattern of our PTT_#’s values in example below? 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, and 1-4. Well if you haven’t figured it out, PTT_5 will be 1-5 so double click on values and change them accordingly. Code:
TTU_1 PTTs: PTT_1: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_1: Program number (PGN) 1 PTT_2: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_2: Program number (PGN) 2 PTT_3: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_3: Program number (PGN) 3 PTT_4: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_4: Program number (PGN) 4 PTT_5: Program Chain number (PGCN) 0 PTT_5: Program number (PGN) 1 Code:
TTU_1 PTTs: PTT_1: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_1: Program number (PGN) 1 PTT_2: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_2: Program number (PGN) 2 PTT_3: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_3: Program number (PGN) 3 PTT_4: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_4: Program number (PGN) 4 PTT_5: Program Chain number (PGCN) 1 PTT_5: Program number (PGN) 5 __________________________________________________________ 9. Save your IFO and BUP. __________________________________________________________ 10. Open VIDEO_TS.IFO and go to VMG Overview / Number of Title Play Maps. This is what I have in my example VIDEO_TS.IFO. Code:
Number of Title Play Maps: 1 (VMG_PTT_SRPT) Title 1: VTS_01_*, TTN_1 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 4) (Start Sector 8234) My movie’s PGC_1 that we were editing was in my first Video TitleSet (VTS_01) so according to above, that’s my Title 1. TTN_1 means Titleset Title Number which is also my PGC_1 in VTS_01. We just need to know the Title # before going to next step. Go to your Title in question. __________________________________________________________ 11. With Title # in mind, go to / VMG_PTT_SRPT / Title_1: Number of chapters (PTTs). This value should match the same as your new Number of Programs in Step 4. Code:
OLD > Title_1: Number of chapters (PTTs) 4 NEW > Title_1: Number of chapters (PTTs) 5 __________________________________________________________ 12. Save your IFO and BUP. __________________________________________________________ 13. Close IfoEdit __________________________________________________________ 14. Create a new subfolder named “temp”. __________________________________________________________ 15. Since I was working on Titleset 1 (VTS_01), I’ll be dragging only my Titleset VOBs in to new folder. DO NOT drag any VTS_*_0.VOBs into your temp folder. These are Menu VOBs. So in my temp folder, I’ll have this now. VTS_01_1.VOB VTS_01_2.VOB __________________________________________________________ 16. Rename these files accordingly. VTS_01_1.VOB > VTS_01_001.VOB VTS_01_2.VOB > VTS_01_002.VOB __________________________________________________________ 17. Okay, here’s where you need your “insert disk 2” clip. Make a copy your clip into your temp folder and renamed to follow your other files in Step 16. *.VOB > VTS_01_003.VOB You should now have these in your temp subfolder. VTS_01_001.VOB VTS_01_002.VOB VTS_01_003.VOB ("Insert disk 2" VOB) __________________________________________________________ 18. Your VOB ID in VTS_01_003.VOB has a VOB ID of 1 and CELL ID of 1 or something different but anyways, we need to change that to reflect what we have for our new cell VOB ID in Step 7. To do that, open this VOB in VobEdit. __________________________________________________________ 19. Click on Navigation Pack in left window. You will data appear in your right window. __________________________________________________________ 20. At byte 041f, you will see VOB ID with a value of 1. To repeat what I said in Step 19, we need to change this VOB ID to what you had in Step 7, double click and change it. Press OK to set. __________________________________________________________ 21. Now, open up VTS_01_001.VOB __________________________________________________________ 22. Go topside and click on Edit / Join CellVob files __________________________________________________________ 23. Click Save. You’ll be saving to the same folder. __________________________________________________________ 24. When processing window is gone, exit VobEdit. __________________________________________________________ 25. In your folder, you should have new files. Drag only these new files back your main folder to replace your original files. If you had a replace confirmation, you didn’t do something right. __________________________________________________________ 26. It should be safe to delete your renamed files in your temp folder. So, now you should have a empty temp folder. __________________________________________________________ 27. We need to correct the IFO so open up Titleset IFO in question. In my example, it’s VTS_01_0.IFO. __________________________________________________________ 28. Click on VOB Extras button and browse to that temp folder as our destination folder. __________________________________________________________ 29. Click OK. __________________________________________________________ 30. In Stream List window, click on “Check All” button. We need to keep everything! Click on “Strip it” button and process will start. If you want to process to speed up, drag the process window below your task bar. This is an IfoEdit trick. __________________________________________________________ 31. When done, close IfoEdit. __________________________________________________________ 32. Drag/cut the new files over and replace the original ones in your source folder. continued on next post…
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33. Click Get VTS Sectors button __________________________________________________________ 34. Play to test. __________________________________________________________ 35. Setting your “Insert Disk 2” to a play a custom time Open your movie’s IFO and go to movie’s PGC. You know how to get there since you did it in Step 4. __________________________________________________________ 36. Scroll down to your last cell in your “Cell Playback” section. You see this line. Code:
Cell_#: still time (seconds, 0xFF = Infinite) __________________________________________________________ 37. Save your IFO and play to test. __________________________________________________________ That’s it!
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I think there's a great potential in this guide. Good work!
However I tryed to follow up this guide and I come across some difficulty. PLease try to write more dumb-proof / no-thinking-of instructions For example: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
(sorry for my dumbness ). Please post an example. These are my last lines in VTS_C_ADT Code:
... [00000028] 3. Cell: End sector 82153 [000140e9] [0000002c] 4. Cell: VOB ID 4 [0004] [0000002e] 4. Cell: Cell ID 1 [01] [00000030] 4. Cell: Start sector 82154 [000140ea] [00000034] 4. Cell: End sector 82208 [00014120] [0000002c] 4. Cell: VOB ID 4 <- THIS PLUS ONE ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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Title x: VTS_yy_*, TTN_z (Angles: ?) (Chapters: ?) (Start Sector ?) Is this correct ? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally two questions: 1)If I have 2 title in my VOB and I want to add a cell to title 1 I would end up with a VOB with cells of title 1 in the beginning than all cells of title 2 in the middle and finally the last inserted cell of title 1. Would this work ? In other words must cells of a title be in sequential order? Does VobEdit do a reordering? 2) You have demonstrated how it is possible to add cells to an existing title. Did you experiment how to add a title to an existing titleset? Thanks Last edited by magilvia; 30th January 2004 at 15:01. |
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Let's start with Step 3 since you are having troubles with it. So here it is again. _____________________________________________________ 3. Go to /VTS_C_ADT. Increment the “Number of VOBs in VTS_VOBS” by one. To do so, double left click and enter higher value. Write this new number down. (NEW) Number of VOBs in VTS_VOBS: _____ Here’s the before and after edit. Code:
OLD > Number of VOBs in VTS_VOBS 4 NEW > Number of VOBs in VTS_VOBS 5 New Cell VOB ID : ______ _____________________________________________________ Quote:
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In this step, I mentioned to "scroll down to the last VOB ID in this table". So with your data you provided, I highlighted what is your "last VOB ID". Code:
These are my last lines in VTS_C_ADT ... [00000028] 3. Cell: End sector 82153 [000140e9] [0000002c] 4. Cell: VOB ID 4 [0004] [0000002e] 4. Cell: Cell ID 1 [01] [00000030] 4. Cell: Start sector 82154 [000140ea] [00000034] 4. Cell: End sector 82208 [00014120] Like said in my step, "We don’t need to edit it but if we increment this value by one, that’s our new VOB ID for our blank cell we will be inserting. Write this down." I'm going to rephrase this later on but again, you don't need to edit the highlighted line, just document the incremation of 1 for your last VOB ID's value, which for you, is 5. Quote:
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I see if I can try to make the guide a little more understanding and update where necessary. This guide does work as me, geffroman, and some local friends, have successfully performed it. Let me know if you got success this time.
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Yeah, I've succeded in adding one of the geffroman authored VOB!!!
Really great work! Anyway I would like to add personalized VOBs but neither VOBs from other DVD nor VOBs authored by me with IfoEdit or Maestro would work. It seems that all gets screwed up with titles playing consecutively one after each other and the new insert cell never gets to play. Is there a special trick for creating usable VOBS ? Thanks again |
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Hi, I attempted to insert an LOTR Two Towers "please insert disc 2" VOB downloaded from the link you posted. I followed all your steps, but at the end when I try to burn it in nero, I get the following message:
DVD-Video files reallocation failed. The resulting DVD-Video might be unplayable. Do you want to continue? I tried burning and the DVD didn't work. Do you know where I could have possibly messed up? I've tried the steps numerous times. There are so many steps that I really don't know where something must have went wrong. I can send you pictures of my screen on any step I did. Thanks for the help and good job on the guides. I succesful used your subtitle guide a while ago. P.S. Here is a step (step 7) I thought looked awkward and could possible be a problem (the following is what my screen looked like): Cell_1: has VOB ID 1 Cell_1: has Cell ID 1 ... Cell_24: has VOB ID 1 Cell_24: has Cell ID 24 Cell_25: has VOB ID 1 Cell_25: has Cell ID 25 Cell_26: has VOB ID 1 Cell_26: has Cell ID 26 Cell_27: has VOB ID 1 Cell_27: has Cell ID 27 Cell_28: has VOB ID 2 Cell_28: has Cell ID 1 |
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On step 15 it says put in
VTS_01_1.VOB VTS_01_2.VOB into the temp folder My VOBS are VTS_01_0.VOB to VTS_01_6.VOB Would I put all 7 vobs into the temp folder in my case? I'm confused on why you put vobs 1 and 2, don't you always have a vob 0? |
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For you in step 15, you should have this in your temp folder before renaming. VTS_01_1.VOB VTS_01_2.VOB VTS_01_3.VOB VTS_01_4.VOB VTS_01_5.VOB VTS_01_6.VOB Step 16 should have you renaming them to... VTS_01_001.VOB VTS_01_002.VOB VTS_01_003.VOB VTS_01_004.VOB VTS_01_005.VOB VTS_01_006.VOB Step 17 had you adding your "Insert disc 2" VOB and renaming as well VTS_01_001.VOB VTS_01_002.VOB VTS_01_003.VOB VTS_01_004.VOB VTS_01_005.VOB VTS_01_006.VOB VTS_01_007.VOB ("Insert disc 2")
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Thanks for the help. I am now going to try to add the screen to The Fellowship of the Ring. EDIT: FOTR was a success also. Do you suggest anything else I should do to the DVD's. I've already done "subtitle off" and "insert disc 2". Last edited by mook8515; 4th February 2004 at 03:06. |
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Yesterday I was working on Harry Potter the Philosopher stone (italian version) and I got the "DVD-Video files reallocation failed. The resulting DVD-Video might be unplayable." error, even if all file where present. I solved it by using the "Vob-extras" feature of Ifoedit, with "Strip VOB IDs" checked but without actually stripping anything.
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I did the test and tried to burn the original files and Nero complained with "reallocation failed". Then I simply deleted 2 empty files and "get VTS sectors" and Nero didn't complain. I burned the disk ant it plays fine on either standalone and with PowerDVD. But I have one of those new Chinese standalones that play everything you put into them, so I guess it's not quite a reference. I need to add that I stripped few audio/subtitle streams and ripped off intro/warning using blank replacement vobs, so the result has exactly the same number of vobs as the original. |
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NEW Clips...
Hi gang... I got a little behind on time to do video clips because I needed to rebuild my site to better manage the demand and redo all the current clips to improve quality and add PAL into the mix...
In fact each download has 8 versions in one ZIP file: 1) - Insert Disc 2 to Continue... NTSC & PAL 2) - Insert Disc 3 to Continue... NTSC & PAL 3) - Insert Next Disc to Continue... NTSC & PAL 4) - This Item Has Been Removed NTSC & PAL I have new ones up now... and have automated the process entirely so requests for custom clips can be handled pretty quickly... Sorry for delaying those that have been asking... Free Clips Page Cheers...
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easiest way is to open your dvd with PgcEdit and select the Macro menu and then Import First-Play (startup). it then will ask if you want to pause(still clip) or not to pause (animated clip) pick what you want to do, then Copy VOB and save dvd. see if that works.
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