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Finally! My guide on how to remove ANY Aspect Ratio or Language Start Menu!
How to remove Aspect Ratio Menus! and Language Selection Start Menus too!
Courtesy of 2CL [1/4/2005]: New v3.0 HTML guide using only PgcEdit. Use this instead. [Dec. 29, 2003]: Guide has been updated if a dummy menu is not available and also a registered MenuEdit guide on replacing menu VOB with a blank one. [Jan. 22, 2004]: Steps 25 and 30 updated. Tools I used DVD Decrypter in File Mode IFOedit 0.95/0.96 MenuEdit (Registered) or DVD Remake (Demo) VobEdit 0.60 BlankVOB 0.0.3 Introduction You know, I’ve done a lot of Aspect Ratio Menu bypassing and most my cheat sheets show different methods. I’m talking about the widescreen and fullscreen selection menu. Hopefully, this generic guide will fix all that. Also, some DVDS have a Language Selection Menu as a startup instead and it's the same concept as a Aspect Ratio Menu. This guide may seem long but I had to write extra detailed explanations here and there for newbies on the scene to understand what needs to be done. This guide can be used for NTSC and PAL DVDs. _____________________________________________________ 1. Where's your menus? The first thing we need to know is where your menus reside at. All menus will reside in two probable VOBs. They will be found in either your VIDEO_TS.VOB or a VTS_*_0.VOB. Normally, they should be in the same Titleset as your movie. So, if your movie is in VTS_01, then your menu VOB would be VTS_01_0.VOB. Then again, there are some cases in which the menus may not reside in the same movie Titleset. Most likely, it will be in another Titleset in which you can initially tell that it is by the size of its menu VOB. When you know which VOB contains your menus, then let’s go to next step. _____________________________________________________ 2. How does your Aspect Ratio Menu look like? The easy way is to use the registered version of MenuEdit as it gives you the feature to preview the actual menu background. The unregistered version doesn’t so all you’ll see is a single-colored background. But, if you do have the registered version, then you can skip to the next step. Since you are still at this step, we need to document which button on your Aspect Ratio Menu (ARM) is your widescreen and fullscreen. Play your movie and when you get to the ARM, write down its description. For example, the fullscreen option is to the left and the widescreen is to the right. Or you can just draw squares to represent the buttons and placement and write WS (widescreen) or FS (fullscreen) inside of them if you want. This is what I usually do. Do whatever it takes to make it simpler for you. Code:
+-------------------------------+ | | | | | +------+ +------+ | | | | | | | | | FS | | WS | | | | | | | | | +------+ +------+ | | | | | +-------------------------------+ We just need to remember the layout as the unregistered version will only show the button placements but not the menu background. Got it? Good! _____________________________________________________ 3. Finding your Aspect Ratio Menu Open up your menu VOB with MenuEdit. You should have found this out in step 1. MenuEdit will have a treeview with all of your VobIDs found. Click on “Expand” button to see CellIDs. To find out which one is your ARM, the most obvious way is that most ARMs contain only 2 buttons, one for widescreen and one for fullscreen. You should look for something like this.
_____________________________________________________ 4. If you have the registered version, you should see exactly what your menu looks like since you have background preview. If you have the unregistered version, compare the layout to what you got in step 2. If this is not the menu you are looking for then move on to the next CellID that has 2 buttons. When you find it, go to the next step. _____________________________________________________ 5. Vob-Id and Cell-Id Congratulations! You found it! Now, write down the associated VobID that this CellID fell under. We’ll need this important info later on.
6. Finding a Dummy (blank) Menu While you're still in the treeview, let's look for a dummy menu. Note 1: This step is optional if you have a registered version of MenuEdit since it can replace cells with blank ones. Below is an example menu that has no buttons.
_____________________________________________________ 7. If you look below, you’ll see a Buttons section with a mini vertical scrollbar. Click on the scrollbar to have the associated button in preview window highlighted. Now, are you doing widescreen or fullscreen? Have that button highlighted and click on “Edit button”. _____________________________________________________ 8. Getting the Hex Value [ Jan 26, 2004]: The unregistered version of MenuEdit does not have the option to preview your button's command. I do have an unposted html guide to assist you with this if you need it to continue unto next step. This step is for registered version only. [Feb 2, 2004]: The DvdReMake free Demo can now help you with finding what your hex values are for your menu button commands. Here's a link. DvdReMake was also created by Dimad, author of MenuEdit. Just right click on Menu button in question and choose "Edit..." and then "..." button to see hex value. You’ll have a Buttons info window pop up. What we need to get is the button’s hex command. This is what is executed when you press this button during movie play. Click on the […] button. Write down this hex value. It should be a 16 alphanumeric value. Don’t do any typos! By the way, those are all 0’s (zeros). Cancel out and exit out of MenuEdit.
9. Now, we need to go to the Titleset IFO that contained your menu VOB. Should be easy as you know about it in step 1. Open IFO in IFOedit. _____________________________________________________ 10. What's your Menu #? If you're dealing with a VTS_*_0.IFO then go to VTS Overview and scroll all the way down to the bottom and you’ll see your Language Menu Units (LMU) section. If it’s the VIDEO_TS.IFO, then go to VMG Overview and scroll down to bottom to LMU. Remember your VobID that you got in step 5? Well, for my example, my VobID is 15 and what I need to know is what menu that VobId is associated with. So, in my example below, that would be Menu 6. Write your Menu # down. You’ll be jumping to this PGC-Menu_# in the next step.
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Language Menu Unit 1: [English] Menu 1: [Root-Menu] (entry PGC)(Programs: 4) (Cells: 4) (uses VOB-IDs: 1,2,3,4) Menu 2: [Audio Menu] (entry PGC)(Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 5,6) Menu 3: [entry only] (Programs: 6) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 11,12,13,14,4) Menu 4: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0) Menu 5: [entry only] (Programs: 22)(Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs:7,8,9,10,4) Menu 6: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 15) Menu 7: [entry only] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 6,16) 11. Inserting a new Cell Command If you are in a VTS, then go to / VTSM_PGCI_UT / PGC-Menu_# / PGC Command Table. If VIDEO_TS, then go to / VMGM_PGCI_UT / PGC-Menu_# / PGC Command Table. NOTE: Prior to doing any edits, it is highly recommended that you backup/save your IFOs and BUPs to another folder in case you mess up in editing. If you do run into errors, you can just copy the original IFOs and BUPs back over your badly edited ones and get VTS Sectors. We need to add a new Cell Command in the PGC Command Table so right click on Pre Command #1 and select “Add CellCommand”. If you want to read up on what are Cell Commands and their uses, read here. You might experience some problems as IfoEdit has some issues with inserting new bytes into your IFO. Here’s the scenarios that I have experienced with other DVDs and the actions taken.
a. Click on Menu Extras button and browse to that new destination folder. b. Click OK. c. In Stream List window, click on “Check All” button. We need to keep everything! Click on “Strip it” button and process will start. If you want to process to speed up, drag the process window below your task bar. This is an IfoEdit trick. d. When done, close IfoEdit. e. Drag/cut the new files over and replace the original ones in your source folder. f. Open any IFO in Ifoedit and click “Get VTS Sectors” button. Press Ok/Yes for any following messages. g. Go back to your PGC Command Table to check and you should now have Scenario A. Go to next step. _____________________________________________________ 12. This would be a good time to save your IFO and BUP. _____________________________________________________ 13. Hex-Editing Your new Cell Command is showing a “NOP” so we need to hexedit that to the same hex value you got in step 8. To do so, double-left click on line and your HexEdit Module will pop up. _____________________________________________________ 14. Uncheck Address and Ascii on right so that you see only the hex bytes you need to edit. _____________________________________________________ 15. Click on the first left byte in the module and type in EXACTLY as you wrote down in step 8. _____________________________________________________ 16. Press OK when done. _____________________________________________________ 17. IfoEdit does not refresh the screen for your new values so as a personal trick, click on “Show Reserved Values” down left. Do so now. _____________________________________________________ 18. Scroll back down to your edited Cell Command and confirm. _____________________________________________________ 19. Now scroll down to Cell Playback section. _____________________________________________________ 20. Remember the CellID # you got in step 5? This ID # refers to the cell in this section. For example, if you wrote down a “4” then go to Cell_4. _____________________________________________________ Continued on next post...
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21. Editing the Cell Playback values
Look at example below. The ones in RED are the only values we'll need to change. To edit any of these values, just double left click and enter. Code:
Cell_1: Cell type (Angle) 2 Type normal Block type normal seamless playback linked in PCI: no interleaved: no STC discontinuity: yes seamless angle linked in DSI: no Cell_1: Cell restricted? 0 restricted: no Cell_1: still time (seconds, 0xFF = Infinite) 255 Cell_1: command Nr (0 = no command) 0 Cell_1: playback time (BCD) 216 playback time (hh:mm:ss.frame) 00:00:00.18 / 30 fps Cell_1: entry point sector 96 Cell_1: first ILVU VOBU end sector 0 Cell_1: start sector of last VOBU 169 Cell_1: last sector of this cell 250 Details: ------- Code:
OLD > Cell_1: still time (seconds, 0xFF = Infinite) 255 NEW > Cell_1: still time (seconds, 0xFF = Infinite) 0
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Cell_1: command Nr (0 = no command) 0
22. Save your IFO and BUP _____________________________________________________ 23. Click on DVD play button. At this point, we are going to test that your Aspect Ratio Menu just plays through into the next title. Don’t worry if you see the menu for a few seconds. If the next title plays, then this is what we want. Then the next thing we need to do is replace the Aspect Ratio menu with a blank VOB or cell. _____________________________________________________ 24. There are three options for you to choose. Select which ones applies to you and jump to step given.
_____________________________________________________ 25. With Registered MenuEdit First, we need a single blank VOB. We can now create our own VOBs using a free tool called BlankVOB, courtesy of jsoto. For this step use Blank VOB to create a new single VOB with VOB ID 1 and Cell ID 1. MenuEdit will retain the original VOB and Cell ID when replacing. a. Open up your menu VOB with MenuEdit b. Go to the CellID that contained your Aspect Ratio Menu and select it. Hint: You found it in Step 5. c. Click on “Replace” button. d. Click on […]. e. Click Open. f. In your “Files of type:”, select “VOB Files(*.vob)” and browse to where your VTS_0x_1.VOB is at. When done, click Open. g. Select CellID and click OK. You can preview if you want and it should be nothing more than a blank clip. h. Press OK twice. i. Exit MenuEdit. j. Open the IFO that is associated with your menu with IfoEdit. k. We'll need to correct the IFO so perform Steps 11a to 11f. l. Go to Step 31. _____________________________________________________ 26. You have a Dummy Menu to use We'll be editing the last four values. Code:
Cell_1: playback time (BCD) 216 playback time (hh:mm:ss.frame) 00:00:00.18 / 30 fps Cell_1: entry point sector 96 Cell_1: start sector of last VOBU 169 Cell_1: last sector of this cell 250
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Cell_1: playback time (BCD) 448 (* From a dummy menu) playback time (hh:mm:ss.frame) 00:00:01.00 / 30 fps Cell_1: entry point sector 2980 (* From a dummy menu) Cell_1: first ILVU VOBU end sector 0 Cell_1: start sector of last VOBU 2986 (* From a dummy menu) Cell_1: last sector of this cell 2991 (* From a dummy menu) _____________________________________________________ 27. Save your IFO and BUP _____________________________________________________ 28. Click on "Get VTS Sectors" button. Click Yes/OK for any following messages. _____________________________________________________ 29. Go to step 31 _____________________________________________________ 30. No Dummy Menu found and with a non-registered MenuEdit We need to insert a blank VOB into your menu VOB. This is what you'll do. a. Create a new empty folder and drag your menu VOB into this folder. b. Rename it as VTS_01_001.VOB regardless, Even if you're working with a VIDEO_TS.VOB. c. Open up your menu’s IFO and go to / VTSM_C_ADT (VTS_*_0.IFO) or VMGM_C_ADT (VIDEO_TS.IFO). Double click on “Number of VOBs in VTSM_VOBS” by increment by one. Click OK to set. Write this new value down. NEW> Number of VOBs in VTSM_VOBS:_______ (VTS_*_0.IFO) or NEW> Number of VOBs (VOB ID's) in VMGM_VOBS:______ (VIDEO_TS.IFO) d. Go back to PGC-Menu in VTSM_PGCI_UT/VMGM_PGCI_UT. You wrote this down in Step 10 if you forgot. Scroll down to the end to “Cell Position in VOB” section. Remember your CellID? Well, we need to change the VobID to reflect a new VobID. Double click and change that to the value you got in previous Step c and the CellID as "1". So if my Aspect Ratio was in Cell_4 then this is my new value. Code:
Cell_4: has VOB ID 5 Cell_4: has Cell ID 1 e. Save IFO and BUP. Close IfoEdit. f. Now that you know what your VOB and Cell ID is, you can know use this information when creating your new VOB. Get BlankVOB from step 25. Rename this output VOB as VTS_01_002.VOB to go along with your other file VTS_01_001.VOB. So now you should have these files in your folder.
h. Go topside left corner and click on Edit / Join CellVob files. i. Click Save. j. When processing window is gone, exit VobEdit. k. In your folder, you'll find a new created file, VTS_01_1.VOB. Rename this back as your original menu VOB. For example, VTS_01_1.VOB would be renamed as VTS_01_0.VOB. l. Drag only this new menu VOB back into your main folder. If you had a replace confirmation, you didn’t do something right. You shouldn’t have a menu VOB in your original folder since we dragged it out into your new folder in step a. m. Open the IFO that's associated with your menu in IfoEdit. n. We'll need to correct the IFO so perform Steps 11a to 11f. o. Go to next step. _____________________________________________________ 31. Play to test. Use IfoEdit and PowerDVD/WinDVD, if you have it. You should now have your movie of choice playing. Test by pressing Play first and also test for playing a chapter in your selection menu initially for any aspect ratio menus. Some DVDs may have 2 aspect ratio menus and you might have missed it. _____________________________________________________ 32. All you need to do now is get rid of the other unwanted movie version. If it’s in a single PGC Titleset, use this guide to help you or use TitleSet Blanker. If not, use this guide Note: By now, there are other free alternatives for blanking: VobBlanker, TitleSet Blanker, PGCedit, etc.
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yep, it's a good method and I've also got a very similar method (no guide tho ) after doing some testing early this week, as a question on the DVDStripper forum got me thinking
this method will work with any start up menu such as audio selection, menu language selection etc it gets harder to do if these selections are after the main menu as I've also played around with that. Saying that though, it's not impossible, it just incolves a lot more command modding but the time to find the method is as I'm real busy with other things at the minute I'm sure you will work it out 2COOL and your guide is EXCOOLENT work as usual Last edited by MackemX; 28th December 2003 at 17:16. |
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@all Does anyone have a recommendation for a NTSC DVD that has start menu as mentioned above? I would like to check it out if it's commonly available.
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Thank you 2cool, your guides are very easy to comprehend to a newbie like me and the step by step helps me learn as I go along (I start to recognize past steps as being the same). Its helped me a lot, and I havent tried this one yet, but Ive used your previous ones, and I'm sure that this one will contribute to my learning cycle on dvd authoring.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 2COOL
[B]@MackemX I don't think they are that common, though I've had a few Region 3's that do have them. I think that's why they are cheaper as they have more languages on them due to the market they cater for. XXX was one but I don't buy Region 3 anymore for this exact reason as they sacrifice extras etc aswell as have the extra startup menu's there's a few Region 1/2 Disney's that have them too. It's amazing you haven't come across one , but I'm sure you will soon Hope you had a good New Year |
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THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS GREAT GUIDE...
Now that I can make the settings without the guide it takes less than 2 minutes to bypass the Aspect Menu on these multi Cell Menu VOB-IDs. So far I have used this guide for: (Region 1) Cherish (more complicated - no blank Cell IDs, but guide still walks you through it using downloadable DONOR Cell IDs) Eight Crazy Nights Freaky Friday Gigli GO Human Nature I Capture the Castle Storytelling(this one has 4 movie versions on the aspect ratio menu but it can't beat the GUIDE - Success again!) The Five Senses The Medallion All done in a minute or two and all working flawlessly. Regards... Jeff Recent additions in red Last edited by geffroman; 17th April 2004 at 05:53. |
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Just did Freddy vs Jason Region 1 Disc 1. It seems there was an intro clip of the aspect ratio menu also in this DVD. Since MenuEdit doesn't play motion menus, you wouldn't have seen it. The images of Widescreen and fullscreen buttons were displayed at the end of intro clip. I used DVD2AVI to view the menu VOBs and get my VOB ID Cell ID for the Aspect Ratio Menu Intro clip.
VOB ID 17 - Cell ID 1 is the Aspect Ratio Menu intro VOB ID 18 - Cell ID 1 is the aspect ratio menu So if you use Step 25 (With Registered MenuEdit), replace these Cells with your blank VOB. If you use Step 30d, change the following Cells in the "Cell Position of VOB section" of PGC-Menus mentioned below. You should have gotten a Blank VOB with VOB ID 27 Cell ID 1. This is from your step 30c which you suppose to have a new "Number of VOBs in VTSM_VOBS" of 27. VTS_01_0.IFO / VTSM_PGCI_UT / PGC-Menu_1 (Root Menu) / Cell Position of VOB / Cell_4 VOB ID VTS_01_0.IFO / VTSM_PGCI_UT / PGC-Menu_3 (Angle Menu) / Cell Position of VOB / Cell_1 VOB ID Change VOB IDs of Cells above to 27 in Step 30f.
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Thanks 2Cool, but the link for the blank VOBs is not working:
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We can now create our own NTSC and PAL VOBs using a free tool called BlankVOB, courtesy of Doom9 user jsoto. It's pretty easy to figure out. Here it is.
BlankVob.exe Sources Guide has been updated. For a blank VOB in this guide, use BlankVOB to create a single VOB with the VOB and Cell ID you got in Step 30d. Also, used for Step 25.
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Is there any advantage to creating a blank VOB with this new tool versus just using the blank we got from MakemX?
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No, but his link is down so I'm providing another alternative. Well. actually that tool does more as it can create a a custom VOB with different VOB and Cell Id which might be useful to my other guide on partial PGC title stripping.
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step 8: hex values
Im trying to remove the widescreen/fullscreen menu on Freaky Friday and Freddy vs Jason. (thanks for this exellent guide 2cool, and also a lot of your other guides, ive found a lot of them very helpful!)Ok, i just cant get past step 8: getting the hex value. I open up my unregistered version of menuedit, click on the widescreen button, edit, and [...] but get this error massage: unregistered version of menuedit cant modify commands. (think ive tried every possible button in menuedit without getting those hex numbers)
as this error message is not a part of this guide, i really dont know what to do. I would also really like to know if there is another way getting the hex values besides menuedit thanks
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I am just kidding with you... BUT it is well worth the money... Once you have the registered version you will understand why you spent the bucks... I cannot image how I got along so long without it...
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