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11th November 2013, 13:55 | #20841 | Link |
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This just confuses me even more. So running both with TV output levels the image looks the same with 0.85.3 and 0.85.4? But running both with PC output levels, you get different brightness? This doesn't make any sense to me at all. Can you please make screenshots with 0.85.3, 0.85.4 and 0.86.4, each with both TV and PC levels? So 6 screenshots overall? To be honest, I'm near to giving up on this, because it doesn't make ANY sense to me whatsoever, from a technical point of view. Especially since you say it only occurs with one specific video, which makes it even more weird.
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11th November 2013, 14:48 | #20842 | Link |
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Win7 SP1, Zoom Player Max, mVR Deband 14, OPtimus Graphics HD4000 with Nvidia 650M
Been using mVR Deband 14 since yesterday and I have noticed now that about 50% of the time when coming out of FSE back into windowed mode I get the following error code displayed in the top left corner of ZP: "madVR reports: resetting Direct3D device failed 8876017c" I press stop on ZP and the error resets itself (error dialogue disappears) and ZP (and mVR) can be used again. How can I get you an error report? It doesn't duplicate all the time... |
11th November 2013, 15:34 | #20843 | Link |
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I did some tests with your latested build. The low preset is fine. nonGradientPenalty removal concerned me a little at first but since you decreased Gradient (or MidDif now), it seems we have the same result here. Anyway, after you created AngleBoost I didn't really feel that nonGradientPenalty was very useful. I have one little complain about the medium preset. MaxAngle at 0.22 is a little too high for me. Did you find a video where MaxAngle at 0.18 or even 0.20 was too low? It's true that I had set MaxAngle at 0.25 for the high preset but it was only useful for bad videos. I don't think the medium preset needs this because we lose some details sometimes and this preset is too weak to make a difference for bad videos, MaxAngle at 0.22 doesn't seem to change anything for debanding here. The high preset seems fine to me. I was a little surprised you desactivated AngelBoost here but after making some tests, it makes sense. I think "Artifact removal" is not a really good name for this function. I understand why you don't call it "debanding" but I don't know... "Postprocessing", "Filter" or even "Postprocessing filter" or "Smoothing" doesn't fit more than "Artifact removal"? I also tested your new feature called "strength during fade in/out" . If you set it on high, when you have a fade in/out your lose a lot of details during this short period of time. The fade in/out seems to last a little bit longer because details make more time to appear. IMHO, medium seems a better choice by default. |
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I would be ok with choosing medium as default, if the majority of "expert users" here agree on that. Personally, I think "high" is the better choice, because IMHO during fade ins/outs lack of banding artifacts is more important than losing a tiny bit of detail, but that's just my personal opinion, of course. I'll bow to the majority vote. |
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11th November 2013, 18:16 | #20849 | Link |
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And 0.86.3 behaves like 0.85.4? The only way that makes sense is if the "source black level" and/or "source white level" controls would be set to some unexpected values. These controls can be modified by defining custom key shortcuts in the madVR settings dialog. Or by using file name tagging. I can't imagine you accidently modified the controls, and the file name "sample002.mkv" doesn't contain any file name tags. So it all still makes no sense to me. Try assigning a keyboard shortcut "source color controls - reset" and press that. Does that change anything?
What is the full file name and file path of this video file on your PC? Are you using any custom pixel shaders? |
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11th November 2013, 18:41 | #20851 | Link |
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Yes, 0.86.3 behaves like 0.85.4, i've assigned a key to source color control reset and .. it works, i get a normal picture on the "bad" versions. I haven't made any other settings, all were default. weird.
Ok. tested the filename and path thingie. the files were in a folder named "Men in Black 1997" turns out that if i change the 1997 to some other value it changes the source .. black level? Last edited by Demonik; 11th November 2013 at 18:56. |
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OMG, yes, "Black 1997" gets treated as a valid tag, changing the black level of the video to 1997. Obviously that doesn't make much sense. But any "someTag someValue" combination is accepted as a file name tag. And "black" is a supported tag name. If you put the 1997 in brackets like "Men in Black (1997)", the problem should go away. That's also how IMDB names movies and how I'm storing movies on my server. Well, I'm glad we got this mystery solved.
Now the question is: Should I require a "tag=value" syntax? Currently I support "tag=value", "tag:value" and "tag value". And "black" is a supported tag. |
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I think it would be good to require "tag=value" syntax to avoid confusions. For example, I use file names like "Program name 2013.11.11 21.00" for TV recordings, so requiring "tag=value" syntax would decrease the probability of encountering problems with accidental tags quite much.
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Would it not be more sensible to only scan for tags inside square brackets? For example: Men In Black [1997, 1080p24, 5.1]
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It's getting better though. I've overclocked my stuff and checked drivers. Also i've completely solved the previous issues. Thank you for the best renderer and your kind support. |
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11th November 2013, 22:48 | #20857 | Link |
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Found a video that crashes with deint=ivtc and potplayer but 'send bug report' opens a blank browser window with mailto: but nothing happens. Is it reporting?
Concerning name tags, : isn't allowed in windows filenames afaik. = is such an uncommon tag that it makes sense. [] are fairly common for year. Would it make sense to deband after downsizing to lower gpu load?
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But I have a very weird issue with this new feature. When I'm watching a movie in 24hz, I get frames dropped when I activate a different strength for fade in/out. It happens only in exclusive mode. It doesn't happen in windowed mode or in 60hz mode. |
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