Real Video 9 simply rocks!!!!!

Razorblade2000 · 24th June 2002, 15:47

Just encoded "Training day".

I made a 1 CD rip, containing:
1 Video stream
2 Audio streams
1 Subtitle
The movie is about 1h 50min
and it simply looks awsome!!!!!!!!!
(I also tried XviD, DivX5 and SBC. All results were worse than RV9)

I only can recommend you to use Real Video!!!!

Latexxx · 24th June 2002, 16:15

I think that real 9 smooths video too much. And unfortunately it does it in postprocessing. Playing real video files with big resolution with my pIII 500 is pain in the ass.

RadicalEd · 24th June 2002, 16:52

Ah I agree though at lower bitrates (smoothing or not) Real can't be beat. Anyway Latexx you seem so against RealVideo lately and yet you're the one who programmed the GUI for RealProducer 9 Preview, whats with that? Owell.. anyway, back to reading the rest of the 4 pages of new posts

bill_baroud · 24th June 2002, 19:22

Quote:

Just encoded "Training day".
I made a 1 CD rip, containing:
1 Video stream
2 Audio streams
1 Subtitle

1 Subtitle ? how subtitle is use in RealMedia ? what format ?

it's mux into the RM stream ?

i'm too lazzy to read the features of RM

Shetane · 24th June 2002, 19:40

hello , im french so sorry if my english not good. i try tu cut an rv9 video movie with rmeditor but he awlays say me that the syntax is not correct . someone have got an idea ?

the syntax i write is :

rmeditor -i <E:\patriot.rmvb> -o <E:\cd1.rmvb> [-s <00:00:00:00.00>] [-e <00:01:18:00.00>]

thx a lot

shetane

ProfDrMorph · 24th June 2002, 20:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Latexxx
I think that real 9 smooths video too much. And unfortunately it does it in postprocessing. Playing real video files with big resolution with my pIII 500 is pain in the ass.

Does the player also use that much post processing if you set Playback Performance to "Lowest CPU Usage" instead of "Best Quality"?

atracus · 24th June 2002, 21:39

@bill_baroud:

yes, you can mux subtitles, but in realtext format (switchable, or selectable from .smil startup file, as many as you may fit on your screen....) OR directly on video (via textsub plugin included in VobSub pkg). for details, see my code samples/reply in other posts in this discussion area.

@Latexxx:

second time I see this comment from you big man, what do you mean for "smooth" --- "stuttering"? since there's a lot of power needed for postpro, I agree with you a nice CPU is needed (my pIII/700 on my port is not enough for full screen rips), but from Athlon 1G+ that's all fine, that means tomorrow's CPU power!

@Shetane:

sorry man I can't help you, rmedit is the only tool in rv9 collection I din't manage to use.... but why must you split, the filesize prediction is nearly perfectin 2-pass, so if you want a 700 MB size it's enough for you to set it in the audience file, and trim the .avs accordingly.... this was my workaround, at least

cya all!

[atx]

Shetane · 24th June 2002, 23:00

@atracus the movie is 2h38mn long so why they are 2 cds but i find the sollution.

rmeditor.exe -i e:\xxx.rmvb -o e:\cdx.rmvb -s 01:18:00.00 -e 02:38:06.00

legend :

xxx is the name of the final rmvb video

cdx is the name of the output you want so cd1 for the first and cd2 for the second.

-s is for start of the time where i want it begin to cut

-e is for the end the time i want it begin to stop cuting.

i hope it will help you. thx a lot

teplun · 25th June 2002, 08:05

You can also use if you got Real Producer 8 Plus. Just move the new RV9 codecs to the RMeditor directory and all features of the RMeditor are available to edit RV9 coded files.

Latexxx · 25th June 2002, 11:48

Smooth means blurred, no details.

atracus · 25th June 2002, 14:08

@Latexxx:
in this case, did you resize with bicubic 0.75 and encode with "sharp" video mode? I normally do this way, and I didn't notice sensible smoothness... just in case!

@Shetane and teplun:
thanks 4 advice, I'll try!

cya
[atx]

Razorblade2000 · 25th June 2002, 14:56

a friend of mine programmed an application witch can convert .sub files (can be made using subrip) to realtext files (.rt).
I told him to post it in this thread...
He will do in the next minutes...

P.S I can't recognize too much smoothness too... It is very sharp and simply looks awsome!!!!

Latexxx · 25th June 2002, 15:23

Quote:

Originally posted by atracus
@Latexxx:
in this case, did you resize with bicubic 0.75 and encode with "sharp" video mode? I normally do this way, and I didn't notice sensible smoothness... just in case!

It is like wm8. It looks good and sharp, but if you have same clip open simultaneously coded in divx3 , xvid or dx5, then you'll see the difference. Or maybe it is just the postprocessing which causes that.

Razorblade2000 · 25th June 2002, 18:53

I compared it also to Xvid and DivX5! It looks better!!! (1h 50min, 2 audio streams! This won't look that good in Xvid or another mpeg4 codec)

31 Flavas · 25th June 2002, 21:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Razorblade2000
a friend of mine programmed an application witch can convert .sub files (can be made using subrip) to realtext files (.rt).
I told him to post it in this thread...
He will do in the next minutes...

It's been a whole bunch of hours now.....

I'd like to know!!!!

31 Flavas · 26th June 2002, 02:58

did a search, here is the thread for subtitles in RV9

The thread

-flavas

atracus · 26th June 2002, 12:11

subtitle studio from Radlight is ok for conversion, + is free...

Razorblade2000 · 26th June 2002, 13:27

...thunder2k is a classmate of me.I told him to and he programmed the converter

P.S:
Can subtitle studio convert to real text???
The converter is here . This stupid didn't post it in this thread (altough I sent him the link)

atracus · 26th June 2002, 18:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Razorblade2000

Can subtitle studio convert to real text???

sure it can. i only needed to reedit the headers 'n' footers this wayto make it work with RealOne:

-----------header------------
just substitute radlight's with something like:

<window duration="1:47:21.00" width="608" height="50" wordWrap="true" loop="true" bgcolor="black">
<font color="white" face="Arial" size="+2">
<center>
<b>

where you should correct (1) the duration accordingly to the movie's and (2) the width accordingly to the rip's (see from .avs for instance...).

-----------footer------------
after the last subtitle row, be sure you only have these closing clauses (eventually delete any other statements which may appear):

</b>
</center>
</font>
</window>

that's all folks!

[atx]

24th June 2002, 15:47	#1 \| Link
Razorblade2000 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 314	Real Video 9 simply rocks!!!!! Just encoded "Training day". I made a 1 CD rip, containing: 1 Video stream 2 Audio streams 1 Subtitle The movie is about 1h 50min and it simply looks awsome!!!!!!!!! (I also tried XviD, DivX5 and SBC. All results were worse than RV9) I only can recommend you to use Real Video!!!!

24th June 2002, 16:15	#2 \| Link
Latexxx Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 618	I think that real 9 smooths video too much. And unfortunately it does it in postprocessing. Playing real video files with big resolution with my pIII 500 is pain in the ass. __________________ A/V moderator @ hydrogenaudio.org My weird old sh*t: http://www.nic.fi/~lhahne/ http://last.fm/user/Latexxx/

25th June 2002, 11:48	#10 \| Link
Latexxx Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 618	Smooth means blurred, no details. __________________ A/V moderator @ hydrogenaudio.org My weird old sh*t: http://www.nic.fi/~lhahne/ http://last.fm/user/Latexxx/

25th June 2002, 14:56	#12 \| Link
Razorblade2000 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 314	subtitles a friend of mine programmed an application witch can convert .sub files (can be made using subrip) to realtext files (.rt). I told him to post it in this thread... He will do in the next minutes... P.S I can't recognize too much smoothness too... It is very sharp and simply looks awsome!!!!

25th June 2002, 18:53	#14 \| Link
Razorblade2000 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 314	no I compared it also to Xvid and DivX5! It looks better!!! (1h 50min, 2 audio streams! This won't look that good in Xvid or another mpeg4 codec)

24th June 2002, 16:52	#3 \| Link
RadicalEd Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 987	Ah I agree though at lower bitrates (smoothing or not) Real can't be beat. Anyway Latexx you seem so against RealVideo lately and yet you're the one who programmed the GUI for RealProducer 9 Preview, whats with that? Owell.. anyway, back to reading the rest of the 4 pages of new posts

24th June 2002, 19:40	#5 \| Link
Shetane Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2	hello , im french so sorry if my english not good. i try tu cut an rv9 video movie with rmeditor but he awlays say me that the syntax is not correct . someone have got an idea ? the syntax i write is : rmeditor -i <E:\patriot.rmvb> -o <E:\cd1.rmvb> [-s <00:00:00:00.00>] [-e <00:01:18:00.00>] thx a lot shetane

24th June 2002, 21:39	#7 \| Link
atracus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 93	@bill_baroud: yes, you can mux subtitles, but in realtext format (switchable, or selectable from .smil startup file, as many as you may fit on your screen....) OR directly on video (via textsub plugin included in VobSub pkg). for details, see my code samples/reply in other posts in this discussion area. @Latexxx: second time I see this comment from you big man, what do you mean for "smooth" --- "stuttering"? since there's a lot of power needed for postpro, I agree with you a nice CPU is needed (my pIII/700 on my port is not enough for full screen rips), but from Athlon 1G+ that's all fine, that means tomorrow's CPU power! @Shetane: sorry man I can't help you, rmedit is the only tool in rv9 collection I din't manage to use.... but why must you split, the filesize prediction is nearly perfectin 2-pass, so if you want a 700 MB size it's enough for you to set it in the audience file, and trim the .avs accordingly.... this was my workaround, at least cya all! [atx]

24th June 2002, 23:00	#8 \| Link
Shetane Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2	@atracus the movie is 2h38mn long so why they are 2 cds but i find the sollution. rmeditor.exe -i e:\xxx.rmvb -o e:\cdx.rmvb -s 01:18:00.00 -e 02:38:06.00 legend : xxx is the name of the final rmvb video cdx is the name of the output you want so cd1 for the first and cd2 for the second. -s is for start of the time where i want it begin to cut -e is for the end the time i want it begin to stop cuting. i hope it will help you. thx a lot

25th June 2002, 08:05	#9 \| Link
teplun Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 30	You can also use if you got Real Producer 8 Plus. Just move the new RV9 codecs to the RMeditor directory and all features of the RMeditor are available to edit RV9 coded files.

25th June 2002, 14:08	#11 \| Link
atracus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 93	@Latexxx: in this case, did you resize with bicubic 0.75 and encode with "sharp" video mode? I normally do this way, and I didn't notice sensible smoothness... just in case! @Shetane and teplun: thanks 4 advice, I'll try! cya [atx]

26th June 2002, 02:58	#16 \| Link
31 Flavas RV10 Nerd Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 247	did a search, here is the thread for subtitles in RV9 The thread -flavas

26th June 2002, 12:11	#17 \| Link
atracus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 93	subtitle studio from Radlight is ok for conversion, + is free...

26th June 2002, 13:27	#18 \| Link
Razorblade2000 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 314	I know this thread ...thunder2k is a classmate of me.I told him to and he programmed the converter P.S: Can subtitle studio convert to real text??? The converter is here . This stupid didn't post it in this thread (altough I sent him the link)