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Old 6th March 2009, 15:27   #1841  |  Link
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I think we should remember to recommend first that people install Windows Media Player 11 and disable FFDSHOW's VC-1 support. That way the WMV11 codec gets used. I have done this -- and only one disc has failed (BAND OF BROTHERS) to encode because of VC-1 hybrid video, and my guess is I've run a lot more of these than most people. I got around that one (temporarily) by using the minimum sizing for BD-25 output.

I'll eventually fix the hybrid problem -- but let's not overreact and suddenly decide the problem includes ALL VC-1 interlaced sources. It does not. If someone hits a problem -- first make sure the right codec (WMV11) is in use. The odds that you're hitting a hybrid source is very low (at least from my experience).
Well, I for one can't get WMV11 to work no-way-no-how, and I've struggled with this on two computers, both updated to latest (though I've yet to update to DirectX from Nov08, last thing I can think to try). Maybe the VC-1s I've had trouble with are unique in some fashion that I've been unable to recognize, but I don't believe they are hybrid. OTTOMH I can think of the six extras from Mamma Mia--I'll try to remember the other place I encountered it (again, an extra) so maybe someone here can confirm-or-deny.
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Old 6th March 2009, 15:55   #1842  |  Link
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Hi mate,

Yes i`ve managed to do about a dozen but it fails with the same error on a few;

Mr and Mrs Smith
Deja Vu
Independence day

please help if you can or let me know what all the settings should be in the various apps?

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Old 6th March 2009, 16:05   #1843  |  Link
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Well, I for one can't get WMV11 to work no-way-no-how, and I've struggled with this on two computers, both updated to latest (though I've yet to update to DirectX from Nov08, last thing I can think to try). Maybe the VC-1s I've had trouble with are unique in some fashion that I've been unable to recognize, but I don't believe they are hybrid. OTTOMH I can think of the six extras from Mamma Mia--I'll try to remember the other place I encountered it (again, an extra) so maybe someone here can confirm-or-deny.
My copy of mamma mia crashes on the extras also at the 1080i VC1 encoding part.

EDIT - This is using wmv11 decoder, however most 1080i stuff in VC1 is fine. Could just be that you got unlucky and your discs all have the hybrid VC1....Depends how many we're talking tho. I doubt you'd be so unlucky as to have 10 of 10 of your discs for example etc.

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Old 6th March 2009, 17:03   #1844  |  Link
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Old 6th March 2009, 17:29   #1845  |  Link
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any thoughts?
Been thinking about Malin Akerman in that very tight suit from the Watchmen movie. Not sure if that's any help to anyone though!!!
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Old 6th March 2009, 17:57   #1846  |  Link
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Been thinking about Malin Akerman in that very tight suit from the Watchmen movie. Not sure if that's any help to anyone though!!!
LOL, cheers!

no, any thoughts on my last post

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Old 6th March 2009, 18:53   #1847  |  Link
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yep from now on that's what I'm going to do. I thought I was saving steps. I'm going to do Erin Brochovich today.

and from now on I will only post issues off fresh rips
I got it out to rip and I see it's an HD dvd I converted. That must be my problem. Has anyone successfully encoded a convrted HD dvd? I don't want to waste my time.
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I got it out to rip and I see it's an HD dvd I converted. That must be my problem. Has anyone successfully encoded a convrted HD dvd? I don't want to waste my time.
Come on now, I have written a guide on converting HD DVD -> Bluray in the thread marked "BACKUP guide..."

Should help you out abit, note though that you can't keep menus when you convert but you can keep all audio streams\subs etc.
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Old 6th March 2009, 19:38   #1849  |  Link
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punisher12: Have you tried on a different BD or is stargate the only one that can't extract audio/subs?
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Old 6th March 2009, 20:04   #1850  |  Link
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punisher12: Have you tried on a different BD or is stargate the only one that can't extract audio/subs?

Thanx, yes tried ironman, indiana jones and several others to no avail, i'm stumped.
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Old 6th March 2009, 22:10   #1851  |  Link
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Sounds like a setup problem or BD_Rebuilder\tools\tsmuxer.exe missing, can you check to see if this file exists?
If it does, can you try downloading BD-RB and put it in a fresh directory and without changing any settings except loading in the source and working?
If still no luck can you paste your the AUD_<M2TS>.meta file?
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My copy of mamma mia crashes on the extras also at the 1080i VC1 encoding part.

EDIT - This is using wmv11 decoder, however most 1080i stuff in VC1 is fine. Could just be that you got unlucky and your discs all have the hybrid VC1...
No, I don't do much of this (backups) and indeed slapped Mamma Mia on just to test-out BD-RB, since it has a lot of interesting extras, including a "singalong" track which BTW doesn't appear back-uppable at all.

According to neuron2's tools, there ain't nothin' "hybrid" about these clips, they are just interlaced VC-1. How to ID a hybrid clip--must be a better way than "something that crashes my PC"!

EDIT: OK I loaded-up one of those nasty extras (00289.m2ts) from Mamma Mia! and used neuron2's tool to go step-by-step thru the fields, and it is indeed more odd than anything I've seen before. This clip starts with ABBA concert footage, most likely video camera footage because every field is different (although many are blended--very ugly) and then it cuts to location footage of the cast & crew, which is in a 2,2,2... cadence (same field twice) so was maybe shot with a high-def video camera or something; I dunno but it doesn't seem to be film. Also eac3to calls it "60i /1.001" while MediaInfo says 29.97 so confusion reigns. IIRC in BD-RB the decoder works for a bit before crashing (looks like a x264 error but is clearly decoder) so it must be the 2:2 material it's crashing on, a few seconds into the clip.

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Old 6th March 2009, 23:18   #1853  |  Link
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Everything works fine now, however I'm a little bit surprised by the final disk space :
Into the Wild : 42.6 Go, and after the process, only 12.8 Go. It seems too low, even though I keep only one audio track.
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Old 6th March 2009, 23:31   #1854  |  Link
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Hi Jdobbs,

at first nice app,.... ;-)

So, in my case my panasonic bd-55 doesn't play any remastered movie which was made with bd rebuilder when the player is using 24p playback mode, but after deactivate 24p everything is fine.

Any ideas ?

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Lif3styl3 I think I remember someone else mention this awhile back and I don't recall a workaround for it. It was before BD-RB came out and I think every compatible encoded video suffers from it.

Perhaps it should be mentioned in the first post of the list of compatible players thread but I'm not sure which Panasonic models are affected besides the BD55. I will check if Panasonic BD30 has the issue.

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Old 7th March 2009, 08:36   #1856  |  Link
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Hi.

I was doing The Mummy 3 (german). But I got an Error message at build and also at Rebuild (at "CorrectMPLS() 00009 5"):
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[18:17:51] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: MUMMY_3TODE_G51
- Input BD size: 45,82 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:01:08.328]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[18:17:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:18:50] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00073]
- [18:19:03] Reencoding: VID_00073 (6 of 29)
- [18:20:52] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00075]
- [18:21:03] Reencoding: VID_00075 (7 of 29)
- [18:22:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00076]
- [18:22:40] Reencoding: VID_00076 (8 of 29)
- [18:24:16] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00077]
- [18:24:31] Reencoding: VID_00077 (9 of 29)
- [18:26:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00084]
- [18:26:36] Reencoding: VID_00084 (10 of 29)
- [18:27:47] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00086]
- [18:27:55] Reencoding: VID_00086 (11 of 29)
- [18:29:12] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00088]
- [18:29:23] Reencoding: VID_00088 (12 of 29)
- [18:31:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00090]
- [18:31:29] Reencoding: VID_00090 (13 of 29)
- [18:34:06] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00094]
- [18:34:14] Reencoding: VID_00094 (14 of 29)
- [18:35:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00098]
- [18:35:19] Reencoding: VID_00098 (15 of 29)
- [18:36:24] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00099]
- [18:36:31] Reencoding: VID_00099 (16 of 29)
- [18:37:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00100]
- [18:37:50] Reencoding: VID_00100 (17 of 29)
- [18:38:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00101]
- [18:39:05] Reencoding: VID_00101 (18 of 29)
- [18:40:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00102]
- [18:40:21] Reencoding: VID_00102 (19 of 29)
- [18:41:30] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00103]
- [18:41:39] Reencoding: VID_00103 (20 of 29)
- [18:42:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00104]
- [18:43:08] Reencoding: VID_00104 (21 of 29)
- [18:44:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00105]
- [18:44:56] Reencoding: VID_00105 (22 of 29)
- [18:46:46] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00106]
- [18:47:06] Reencoding: VID_00106 (23 of 29)
- [18:49:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00107]
- [18:49:53] Reencoding: VID_00107 (24 of 29)
- [18:52:36] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00108]
- [18:52:53] Reencoding: VID_00108 (25 of 29)
- [18:55:37] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00109]
- [18:55:54] Reencoding: VID_00109 (26 of 29)
- [18:58:37] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00317]
- [18:58:47] Reencoding: VID_00317 (27 of 29)
- [19:01:15] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00334]
- [19:01:26] Reencoding: VID_00334 (28 of 29)
- [19:03:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00335]
- [19:03:20] Reencoding: VID_00335 (29 of 29)
[19:05:02]PHASE ONE complete
[19:05:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:05:02] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19:22:19] - Failed to REBUILD
-----------------------
[19:26:31] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: MUMMY_3TODE_G51
- Input BD size: 45,82 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:01:08.328]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[19:26:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[19:26:32]PHASE ONE complete
[19:26:32]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:26:32] Rebuilding stream 00009 [1 of 29]
- [19:38:31] Rebuilding stream 00010 [2 of 29]
- [19:39:22] Rebuilding stream 00057 [3 of 29]
- [19:39:25] Rebuilding stream 00071 [4 of 29]
- [19:39:55] Rebuilding stream 00072 [5 of 29]
- [19:40:43] Rebuilding stream 00073 [6 of 29]
- [19:40:52] Rebuilding stream 00075 [7 of 29]
- [19:41:00] Rebuilding stream 00076 [8 of 29]
- [19:41:07] Rebuilding stream 00077 [9 of 29]
- [19:41:17] Rebuilding stream 00084 [10 of 29]
- [19:41:22] Rebuilding stream 00086 [11 of 29]
- [19:41:29] Rebuilding stream 00088 [12 of 29]
- [19:41:36] Rebuilding stream 00090 [13 of 29]
- [19:41:49] Rebuilding stream 00094 [14 of 29]
- [19:41:55] Rebuilding stream 00098 [15 of 29]
- [19:42:02] Rebuilding stream 00099 [16 of 29]
- [19:42:08] Rebuilding stream 00100 [17 of 29]
- [19:42:15] Rebuilding stream 00101 [18 of 29]
- [19:42:20] Rebuilding stream 00102 [19 of 29]
- [19:42:27] Rebuilding stream 00103 [20 of 29]
- [19:42:32] Rebuilding stream 00104 [21 of 29]
- [19:42:41] Rebuilding stream 00105 [22 of 29]
- [19:42:49] Rebuilding stream 00106 [23 of 29]
- [19:43:03] Rebuilding stream 00107 [24 of 29]
- [19:43:15] Rebuilding stream 00108 [25 of 29]
- [19:43:28] Rebuilding stream 00109 [26 of 29]
- [19:43:40] Rebuilding stream 00317 [27 of 29]
- [19:43:48] Rebuilding stream 00334 [28 of 29]
- [19:43:55] Rebuilding stream 00335 [29 of 29]
- [19:44:03] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [19:47:21] CorrectMPLS() 00009 5
[19:49:46] - Aborted at user request
-----------------------
The INF:
Code:
[Status]
LABEL=MUMMY_3TODE_G51
VERSION=v0.20.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=49198008571
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=44728922112
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.449821274266794
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;fra;fre;ger;ita;pol;rus;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=29
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00009]
M2TS_TARGET=15106842043
RATE=13516
AUDIO=0100101
NSIZE=14822965248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
M2TS_TARGET=1075853216
RATE=4906
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=1064706048
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00057]
M2TS_TARGET=96773786
RATE=2379
AUDIO=
NSIZE=62803968
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00071]
M2TS_TARGET=675219359
RATE=4352
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=666359808
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00072]
M2TS_TARGET=726538540
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=1130201088
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00073]
M2TS_TARGET=187423209
RATE=1844
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=193443840
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00075]
M2TS_TARGET=158758092
RATE=1964
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=162969600
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00076]
M2TS_TARGET=169409400
RATE=1977
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=173684736
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00077]
M2TS_TARGET=210466955
RATE=1984
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=217012224
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00084]
M2TS_TARGET=104155634
RATE=7004
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=106536960
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00086]
M2TS_TARGET=115102657
RATE=6883
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=117792768
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00088]
M2TS_TARGET=155190153
RATE=6771
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=156628992
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00090]
M2TS_TARGET=248105811
RATE=6597
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=258035712
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00094]
M2TS_TARGET=105053837
RATE=8910
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=118671360
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00098]
M2TS_TARGET=107145959
RATE=7347
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=130676736
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00099]
M2TS_TARGET=104144579
RATE=7005
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=105547776
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00100]
M2TS_TARGET=104150106
RATE=7005
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=107304960
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00101]
M2TS_TARGET=104191562
RATE=7010
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=107888640
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00102]
M2TS_TARGET=114566499
RATE=6828
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=137650176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00103]
M2TS_TARGET=115116476
RATE=6884
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=118069248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00104]
M2TS_TARGET=156417237
RATE=6862
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=200650752
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00105]
M2TS_TARGET=155201208
RATE=6772
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=157083648
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00106]
M2TS_TARGET=287516201
RATE=8460
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=316059648
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00107]
M2TS_TARGET=248086466
RATE=6597
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=257126400
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00108]
M2TS_TARGET=248080938
RATE=6596
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=254435328
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00109]
M2TS_TARGET=248105811
RATE=6597
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=256591872
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00317]
M2TS_TARGET=154543447
RATE=4903
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=156082176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00334]
M2TS_TARGET=155203972
RATE=6772
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=157065216
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00335]
M2TS_TARGET=155212263
RATE=6773
AUDIO=01111011
NSIZE=158097408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
I can send files, if needed. Costed me alot of time to encode those nasty extras, so I hope it was not a waste of time.

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Everything works fine now, however I'm a little bit surprised by the final disk space :
Into the Wild : 42.6 Go, and after the process, only 12.8 Go. It seems too low, even though I keep only one audio track.
I was wondering : is the bitrate accurately determined to use all the space on a BD 25, and thus keep the highest quality possible ?
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I was wondering : is the bitrate accurately determined to use all the space on a BD 25, and thus keep the highest quality possible ?
Yes, it should around BD25 if that's what you've got it set at. (22.5-23.5GB roughly). If it's not hitting that, it could be because you've saturated the quality level as much as is possible and x264 doesn't know what to do with the extra bitrate and isn't needed.

This would make sense on a movie only encode with only one audio stream. Your original Bluray may well be 40GB+ in size but of that 40GB only around half of it will usually be the main move and one audio track, often much less. Couple that with x264 being a very efficient codec and it could be that you've just topped out.

^ my guess anyway

EDIT - What size is the main move before encoding anyway? How many audio tracks are in it to start with and at what quality? This is really obvious information you should be handing over if you want help.
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No, I don't do much of this (backups) and indeed slapped Mamma Mia on just to test-out BD-RB, since it has a lot of interesting extras, including a "singalong" track which BTW doesn't appear back-uppable at all.

According to neuron2's tools, there ain't nothin' "hybrid" about these clips, they are just interlaced VC-1. How to ID a hybrid clip--must be a better way than "something that crashes my PC"!

EDIT: OK I loaded-up one of those nasty extras (00289.m2ts) from Mamma Mia! and used neuron2's tool to go step-by-step thru the fields, and it is indeed more odd than anything I've seen before. This clip starts with ABBA concert footage, most likely video camera footage because every field is different (although many are blended--very ugly) and then it cuts to location footage of the cast & crew, which is in a 2,2,2... cadence (same field twice) so was maybe shot with a high-def video camera or something; I dunno but it doesn't seem to be film. Also eac3to calls it "60i /1.001" while MediaInfo says 29.97 so confusion reigns. IIRC in BD-RB the decoder works for a bit before crashing (looks like a x264 error but is clearly decoder) so it must be the 2:2 material it's crashing on, a few seconds into the clip.
The sing along track I think is a picture in picture track which BD-Rebuilder currently doesn't handle and just ignores completely.
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I've had an aften audio encoding error on Batman, Dances with Wolves and now Monsters Ball, Windows 7 64 bit, got a feeling the latter is the problem
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