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Old 2nd April 2014, 12:29   #19841  |  Link
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ok . i have put a different 3d iso its 36 gb but bdrebuilder only reconizes 26 and does not do it in 3d only 2d? says mvc encoder enabled but when encodeing it only encodes as avc not mvc
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Old 2nd April 2014, 12:47   #19842  |  Link
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- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:30:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:30:17] Processing: VID_00032 (1 of 1)
- [12:30:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [12:38:32] Reencoding video [VID_00032]
- [12:38:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:38:32] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[12:38:32]PHASE ONE complete
[12:38:32]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:38:32] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:45:16] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:45:16] JOB: NURSE_3D finished.
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Old 2nd April 2014, 12:47   #19843  |  Link
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[04/02/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.03 (beta)
[12:30:15] Source: NURSE_3D_00000
- Input BD size: 22.47 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:54.070]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25+), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:30:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:30:17] Processing: VID_00032 (1 of 1)
- [12:30:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [12:38:32] Reencoding video [VID_00032]
- [12:38:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:38:32] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[12:38:32]PHASE ONE complete
[12:38:32]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:38:32] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:45:16] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:45:16] JOB: NURSE_3D finished.
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Old 2nd April 2014, 13:16   #19844  |  Link
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0.46.14 version did reconise the file as the full iso and mvc started encodeing the new version only reconises 2d
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Old 2nd April 2014, 14:30   #19845  |  Link
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Got interested in the performance of Intel QuickSync.
Found this test from last year, is it's conclusion still valid?

http://www.tetrachromesoftware.com/q264Test1Analysis/q264test_1.html
http://www.tetrachromesoftware.com/q264Test1Analysis/q264test_conclusion.html

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Old 2nd April 2014, 14:42   #19846  |  Link
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I'm trying to do Hunger Games Catching Fire, movie only, English audio, english sub, mp4 container, 1920x1080, CRF 22, autoaac, autogop, mp4box keeps failing, tried it 2 times. Has anyone tried this combo?
I didn't do that particular title, but I tested a couple of other movies to MP4 using that preset and they came out fine.
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Old 2nd April 2014, 14:45   #19847  |  Link
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Please combine your thoughts into a single message before posting. When you make 3-4 posts for the same statement it makes the forum cluttered and hard to follow.

Thanks.
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Old 2nd April 2014, 14:58   #19848  |  Link
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Please combine your thoughts into a single message before posting. When you make 3-4 posts for the same statement it makes the forum cluttered and hard to follow.
Or use the edit function to add further information if you need to augment something.
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Old 2nd April 2014, 15:51   #19849  |  Link
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no problem . is there any views @ jdobbs why its done that?
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Old 2nd April 2014, 17:48   #19850  |  Link
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I'm not sure what you are asking... but one thing to note is that you are doing a movie-only backup. v0.47.03 only does out-of-mux 3D for movie-only encodes. The FORCE_INMUX_3D option doesn't apply to movie-only. I'm modifying BD-RB for the next release. All out-of-mux will be replaced by in-mux and the FORCE_INMUX_3D will go away.

I would suggest in the meantime that you set OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 for movie-only encodes. That will generate an ISO that includes the SSIF folder. I probably should have left it as the default in this release, but I've never had any issues with out-of-mux on my players.
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Old 2nd April 2014, 18:00   #19851  |  Link
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it was the same on full movie backup it just encodeed as a 2d even tho it said mvc enabled . does that mean the next release the full backup movie with have the seperate ssif files like before. the movie it 36 gb but when i put in full mode it only says 26 gb . meaning that must be where its missing the 3d as it only encoded in 2d as tmt and powerdvd shown no 3d. when will the next release be ready . i tried it in the 0,46.14 and it does reconise it as 36gb and encodes in 3d but as that doesnt support full backup as id like it in full backup hope you can sort it . thanx

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Old 2nd April 2014, 19:40   #19852  |  Link
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it was the same on full movie backup it just encodeed as a 2d even tho it said mvc enabled . does that mean the next release the full backup movie with have the seperate ssif files like before. the movie it 36 gb but when i put in full mode it only says 26 gb . meaning that must be where its missing the 3d as it only encoded in 2d as tmt and powerdvd shown no 3d. when will the next release be ready . i tried it in the 0,46.14 and it does reconise it as 36gb and encodes in 3d but as that doesnt support full backup as id like it in full backup hope you can sort it . thanx
You CAN'T have SSIF files on a full backup. So "like before" makes no sense and is completely inaccurate. The SSIF folder is a repeat of what is in the two M2TS files, and creating it (without going directly to ISO) is NOT feasible because you'd have to half the bitrate and lose lots of quality -- for absolutely no reason.

The non-SSIF method works. It works 100%. I've done dozens of encodes and never once got 2D output. If you are seeing issues -- it ISN'T because of the method. It's something else. Do you possible have "IGNORE_3D" enabled?

Recognizing it as 36GB means nothing to me. I have no idea where you're getting that number and it isn't showing up in the logs you're posting. Some of the logs even have parts edited out. It's very possible that there are unreferenced files... I don't know.
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Old 2nd April 2014, 19:45   #19853  |  Link
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sorry jdobbs for the logs not bein right. i can confirm the full backup i did worked on 2 panasonic . does not play on 2 samsung players and lots of noise. but the new movie im talking about now is 36 gb but it only inputs as 26gb ill do a log. where is ignore 3d? i cant see that bein on as i just done a movie before it and it worked. the log i will post should be 36 gb. but it does reconise on 0.46.14. but not the latest build.

make that 3 samsung players the 3d full backup wont play stutters and lots noise but works on panasonic as it just been tested on another samsung

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Old 2nd April 2014, 20:06   #19854  |  Link
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[04/02/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.03 (beta)
[19:51:13] Source: NURSE_3D
- Input BD size: 26.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:18.783]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25+), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:51:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:51:14] Processing: VID_00019 (1 of 9)
- [19:51:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [19:51:25] Reencoding video [VID_00019]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,713 frames
- Bitrate: 15,127 Kbs
- [19:51:25] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:51:25] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:55:26] Video Encode complete
- [19:55:26] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:55:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:55:38] Processing: VID_00028 (2 of 9)
- [19:55:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [19:55:45] Reencoding video [VID_00028]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,561 frames
- Bitrate: 15,146 Kbs
- [19:55:45] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:55:45] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:56:04] Video Encode complete
- [19:56:04] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:56:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:56:08] Processing: VID_00029 (3 of 9)
- [19:56:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [19:56:19] Reencoding video [VID_00029]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,433 frames
- Bitrate: 15,038 Kbs
- [19:56:19] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:56:19] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:57:03] Video Encode complete
- [19:57:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:57:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:57:08] Processing: VID_00030 (4 of 9)
- [19:57:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [19:57:15] Reencoding video [VID_00030]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,825 frames
- Bitrate: 15,157 Kbs
- [19:57:15] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:57:16] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:57:40] Video Encode complete
- [19:57:40] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:57:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:57:44] Processing: VID_00031 (5 of 9)
- [19:57:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [19:57:49] Reencoding video [VID_00031]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 769 frames
- Bitrate: 15,046 Kbs
- [19:57:49] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:57:49] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:57:59] Video Encode complete
- [19:57:59] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:57:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:58:03] Processing: VID_00032 (6 of 9)
- [19:58:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [20:05:28] Reencoding video [VID_00032]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 120,697 frames
- Bitrate: 27,050 Kbs
- [20:05:28] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:05:29] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 2 of 2



as you can see at the bottom is the main movie for encode but its not encodeing with mvc encoder just normal
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Old 2nd April 2014, 20:21   #19855  |  Link
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04/02/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.14 (beta)
[20:08:23] Source: NURSE_3D_00000
- Input BD size: 32.43 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:54.070]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25+), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:08:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:08:25] Processing: VID_00032 (1 of 1)
- [20:08:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [20:20:07] Reencoding video [VID_00032]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 120,697 frames
- Bitrate: 32,231 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [20:20:07] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1


and build 0.46.14 as you can see does start the encode with frimencode mvc and inputs the right gb
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Old 2nd April 2014, 20:48   #19856  |  Link
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One says MOVIE-ONLY mode and the other doesn't. Is it significant?
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Old 2nd April 2014, 20:49   #19857  |  Link
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you cant do full movie with 0.46.14. even on movie only its the same result with latest build. because its not inputting the full 36gb on movie only on lastest build u get a bd25 no reencode but only plays 2d


[04/02/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.03 (beta)
[20:49:41] Source: NURSE_3D_00000
- Input BD size: 22.47 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:54.070]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25+), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:49:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:49:50] Processing: VID_00032 (1 of 1)
- [20:49:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [20:57:02] Reencoding video [VID_00032]
- [20:57:02] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [20:57:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[20:57:02]PHASE ONE complete
[20:57:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20:57:04] Rebuilding BD file Structu

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Old 2nd April 2014, 21:19   #19858  |  Link
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Ok. I ordered "Nurse 3D" so I can do some testing. But it will be a few days before I get it. It isn't released here until April 8th. I'm hoping you're using a legitimate source... I'll be very upset if I find that I wasted my money (which is about the amount I received in donations this week) because the "true release" works fine.
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Old 2nd April 2014, 21:30   #19859  |  Link
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you didnt have to order it. thought i wasnt allowed to say if it was or not. what about the others skipping like mad in the samsung players and the ps3? i will donate a small bit as i said in previous post. as you can see the movie only encodes in 3d on the 0.46.14. how much did you pay

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I know I've mentioned this, but I really can't believe I'm alone in seeing it. SO here are more details.
Still using 46.16 since I don't need 3D encoding.

(Logs and such abridged for conciseness...)

Movie Only Encoding:
Quote:
- Input BD size: 23.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:17:58.048]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
Code:
SOURCE_SIZE=25539293184
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=25539293184
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.964848001957923[/quote]
Okay, so BD-RB wants to re-encode with a 96% reduction, because the source is 23.79gb.
Except...
[quote]Format: BDAV
Format/Info: Blu-ray Video
File size: 23.8 GiB
Duration: 1h 17mn

Video
Stream size: 16.3 GiB (68%)

Audio #1
Format: PCM
Stream size: 3.76 GiB (16%)

Audio #2
Format: AC-3
Stream size: 357 MiB (1%)

Audio #3
Format: AC-3
Stream size: 357 MiB (1%)

Audio #4
Format: AC-3
Stream size: 357 MiB (1%)

Audio #5
Format: AC-3
Stream size: 357 MiB (1%)

Audio #6
Format: AC-3
Stream size: 357 MiB (1%)

Audio #7
Format: AC-3
Stream size: 357 MiB (1%)

Audio #8
Format: AC-3
Stream size: 357 MiB (1%)

Audio #9
Format: AC-3
Stream size: 357 MiB (1%)

Text #1
Format: PGS

Text #2
Format: PGS

Text #3
Format: PGS

Text #4
Format: PGS

Text #5
Format: PGS

Text #6
Format: PGS

Text #7
Format: PGS

Text #8
Format: PGS

Text #9
Format: PGS

Text #10
Format: PGS

Text #11
Format: PGS

Text #12
Format: PGS

Text #13
Format: PGS

Text #14
Format: PGS

Text #15
Format: PGS

Text #16
Format: PGS

Text #17
Format: PGS

Text #18
Format: PGS

Text #19
Format: PGS
Only audio track #2 and one subtitle track are marked to be kept. The input size should be 17.6gb (less whatever the 18 removed subtitle tracks take up).
23.79gb being assumed by BDRB as the input size is the FULL m2ts file before stripping, not after.

On a disc with a sane amount of audio tracks you might not notice this discrepancy.

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