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Old 15th October 2003, 08:36   #161  |  Link
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Re: New Bidule

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Hi there.

A new beta of bidule is available on plogue.com
We fixed some issues with disc streaming and parameter saving.

This doesnt include however, the Offline mode yet.

its available here:
http://plogue.com/download_form.php?...r6500test1.exe

Please try it out if you experienced problems.

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Thanks, David.

Would you happen to have a changelog somewhere? I'd like to see what's changed before I upgrade

Did you notice my bug report a bit earlier in this thread?

@EoH: Thanks, I'll definitely have to check your website out Ain't it funny how all the PF and Alan Parsons fans seem to fiddle with this surround stuff?
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Old 15th October 2003, 10:16   #162  |  Link
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Re: Re: New Bidule

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@EoH: Thanks, I'll definitely have to check our website out Ain't it funny how all the PF and Alan Parsons fans seem to fiddle with this surround stuff?
LOL !!
I think that's because WE heard the Quad version of DSOTM and the DTS of On Air !!

grtz,

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Old 15th October 2003, 17:23   #163  |  Link
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Yes i saw the bug report. we are investigating.
Allthough im unable to reproduce it.

We've changed some file handling code in the latest version,
mind to have a go?

revision history:
http://plogue.com/bidule/experimental.html


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Old 15th October 2003, 17:27   #164  |  Link
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speaking of DSOTM in quad.

Anyone has the SQ quad vinyl somewhere?
I have the schematics for a .bidule file that decodes CBS SQ.
But since im not yet 'setup" to do quad/5.1, i never tested it using
my copy of walter carlos's "switched on back" SQ Quad.

I guess if i had an example of say the intro to money in SQ,
idd speed up my setup

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Thanks, upgrading it is then I have some stereo->5.1 work to do this week so it'll be a nice test too.

The bug could well be system dependent, those are hard to trace. We'll see if I can reproduce it with the latest version.
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speaking of DSOTM in quad.

Anyone has the SQ quad vinyl somewhere?
I have the schematics for a .bidule file that decodes CBS SQ.
But since im not yet 'setup" to do quad/5.1, i never tested it using
my copy of walter carlos's "switched on back" SQ Quad.

I guess if i had an example of say the intro to money in SQ,
idd speed up my setup

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I have a copy of DSOTM in sq. Tell me about the Bidule schematic as I would also like to convert it to 5.1.
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Old 17th October 2003, 16:36   #167  |  Link
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Hi

Its basically to create a bidule group that has 2 ins and 4 outs
and does the maths that are on this page:
http://www.mtsu.edu/~dsmitche/rim456...d_Formats.html

the only "obscure" part is doing a 90degree phase shift,
But just use the BiduleFIR, and do a "hilbert transform"

Ill try to to the bgrp for you if i get the chance...
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Old 17th October 2003, 19:40   #168  |  Link
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sounds interesting

hope you find the necessary time
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Re: layout with wav2wav6

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This is how the layout should be :

fl > fl
fr > c
c > fr
sl > lfe
sr > sl
lfe > sr

(Thanks Rasta21 !)

kind regards,

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I'm confused with the Wav2Wav6 layout. First of all my files are named Front_Left.wav etc. instead of fl etc. Do these files need to be renamed? Second, is it simply a matter of just inserting them into surcode be remapping them?
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Re: Re: layout with wav2wav6

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I'm confused with the Wav2Wav6 layout. First of all my files are named Front_Left.wav etc. instead of fl etc. Do these files need to be renamed? Second, is it simply a matter of just inserting them into surcode be remapping them?
Front_Left =FL etc.

You can remap them by putting them in the right place in Surcode.
But you can bet you will forget at some point and put them in without the right mapping

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Has anyone run DSOTM thru bidule. Can anyone reccomend other albums that compare with sterotomy after bidule.
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Has anyone run DSOTM thru bidule. Can anyone reccomend other albums that compare with sterotomy after bidule.
Stereotomy was (AFAIK) the only rock album recorded with the special Ambisonic microphones.......


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Re: Re: Re: layout with wav2wav6

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Front_Left =FL etc.

You can remap them by putting them in the right place in Surcode.
But you can bet you will forget at some point and put them in without the right mapping

EoH
You're absolutely right. I get confused when I try to put the files in the right place in Surcode. Thanks for your sage advice.
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MPA vst-plugin

Hi, is there a freeware .mpa vst-plugin avalaible. I would like to run some mp2 audio files trough bidule.
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Re: MPA vst-plugin

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Hi, is there a freeware .mpa vst-plugin avalaible. I would like to run some mp2 audio files trough bidule.
Hum there is a decoder yes
"Read MPEG 1&2 (layer 1,2,3) files (i.e. .mp1, .mp2, .mp3). "
(so rename your mpa to whatever the format, prolly mp2)
Get it here
http://askywhale.free.fr/vst/
Warning, this plugin seems to load the decompressed file in ram!!

Now since Bidule only process uncompressed audio streams (and will always be that way), you would have to reencode the output to mpa again after the processing.

So imho you should maybe uncompress the mpa -> wav then use the Bidule
file player and recorder.
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I guess what I was meaning to ask was a little input on what cd's people have tried and good results. It's my understanding from reading the thread that some produce poor results. I have recently upgraded my stereo system and I want to quickly out put a few that I can enjoy while I tinker with settings and cds
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Pink Floyd gives good results. I've gotten good results on everything except U2. The Unforgettable Fire is heavy in the reverb, anyway, and I have a hard time keeping it from sounding muddy. The Beatles don't seem to sound right for me, either. I'm working on the White Album.

Peter, Paul and Mary, Crosby, Stills, and Nash came out great...
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Thanx, I'm going to play with my new toys tonite! Anybody try tubular bells or any van halen?
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Updated / New Ambisonics VST-plugins

Gerzonic has published 1 update (Emigrator) and 2 new toys:

Panorama
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Panorama is a 2nd Order Ambisonic Panner with a very simple user interface in the tradition of bPan.
InterGate8 Demo
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The demo of InterGate8 is online! A virtual 100% ambisonic mixing desk. Limitations of the Demo: only the first two channels can be used. The Demo is first order only. Full versions shall be available in a few days.
Emigrator 1.0 (latest built)
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A new build of Emigrator is available. It fixes one bug: The UI was not updated according to the internal state when loading a project in some hosts. This has been fixed for OSX and win32. Maybe this release will work in Nuendo 2.0, who knows..
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Please explain a bit more in detail ? What exactly can i do with those plugins ? Could it help us using Vorbis surround some day ?
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