Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > Hardware & Software > Software players

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 22nd June 2016, 14:01   #38401  |  Link
nevcairiel
Registered Developer
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamburg/Germany
Posts: 10,344
Quote:
Originally Posted by chros View Post
I don't think that this bug was mentioned here before (that HDR setting modifies SDR content as well).
It was, several times. Just don't set HDR nits to < 256 nits

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...68#post1770168
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...68#post1770268
__________________
LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders
nevcairiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2016, 14:44   #38402  |  Link
Betroz
Is this for real?
 
Betroz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Norway
Posts: 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by chros View Post
I'm back to 0.90.17 ; that was the version that I used for a long time
I have been using that version too since it came out, and it has been working flawlessly. Newer versions seem to have features I don't need, such as HDR support.
__________________
My HTPC : i9 10900K | nVidia RTX 4070 Super | TV : Samsung 75Q9FN QLED
Betroz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2016, 18:38   #38403  |  Link
chros
Registered User
 
chros's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,323
Quote:
Originally Posted by nevcairiel View Post
Indeed, I missed that, sorry guys.
__________________
Ryzen 5 2600,Asus Prime b450-Plus,16GB,MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6GB(v398.18),Win10 LTSC 1809,MPC-BEx64+LAV+MadVR,Yamaha RX-A870,LG OLED77G2(2160p@23/24/25/29/30/50/59/60Hz) | madvr config
chros is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2016, 22:14   #38404  |  Link
saman_pd
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2
Dropped Frames using NNEDI3

Hey guys, I set up madVR and did all the settings. I have a decent hardware, enough to use nnedi3 but still I get dropped frames most of the times. I believe madVR is not using Intel instead of nVidia. Any solutions?

System: Asus G551V Game Series.
nVidia Geforce GTX960m, 16 Gig Ram, Core i7 CPU.

Software:
MPC-HC 1.7.10
madVR09021
LAV Filters
FFDSHOW

I installed 64bit but then I changed everything to 32bit.

Settings:
I did everything based on ezoden.
http://www.ezoden.com/htpc/4/how-to-...c-introduction

I'm not using reclock or Avisynth.
saman_pd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2016, 22:24   #38405  |  Link
saman_pd
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2
Dropped Frames using NNEDI3

Hey guys, I set up madVR and did all the settings. I have a decent hardware, enough to use nnedi3 but still I get dropped frames most of the times. I believe madVR is not using Intel instead of nVidia. Any solutions?

System: Asus G551V Game Series.
nVidia Geforce GTX960m, 16 Gig Ram, Core i7 CPU.

Software:
MPC-HC 1.7.10
madVR09021
LAV Filters
FFDSHOW

I installed 64bit but then I changed everything to 32bit.

Settings:
I did everything based on ezoden.
http://www.ezoden.com/htpc/4/how-to-...c-introduction

I'm not using reclock or Avisynth.
saman_pd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th June 2016, 14:14   #38406  |  Link
CarlosCaco
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Brasil, SP, São Paulo
Posts: 154
i´m having some strange random freezing/crashing after pausing or seeking the video
i don´t know how to reproduces because is very random
but with some especifics x265 files occurs more...
happens on mpc-hc and mpc-be x86

also occurs when i tag files that have wrong framerate metada...

sometimes all freez until i restart my pc sometimes the image freezes but the audio continue to play... but i have to restart the pc because can control nothing

edited

actually its not a file problem, the freeze/crashing occurs every time i pause a movie on FSE
the only way to pause without crashing is exiting to windowed mode and pausing
using laest lav madvr and mpc-hc
on windows 8.1 x64, GPU nvidia 930m driver 368.29
maybe this started to happen after the last windows update 3 days ago but i can t say exactly because i thought was random crashes but discovered that is not...
__________________
Desktop, i5 2500, 8GB, N570 GTX TF III PE/OC
Asus X555LF, i7-5500U, 6GB Ram, Nvidia 930m/HD 5500
Windows 8.1 Pro x64

Last edited by CarlosCaco; 26th June 2016 at 14:20.
CarlosCaco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2016, 06:35   #38407  |  Link
edison
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 106
Blank screen when using non-DXVA2 downsapling here:
player: MPC-HC
video: http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=144

madVR: 0.90.21
Lav filter: 0.68.1
Windows 10
edison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2016, 11:32   #38408  |  Link
XMonarchY
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
FYI, the latest NVidia drivers may produce some issues when MFAA and/or DSR are enabled by forcing the Task Scheduler service and those reliant on that service to shut down. It does not affect all systems. In my case I get Received Bad Stub or Bad Stub errors
  Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2016, 11:59   #38409  |  Link
Georgel
Visual Novel Dev.
 
Georgel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Bucharest
Posts: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by adhara View Post
Hi guys,

I need your opinion about doing the good choice for a graphic card (I own a GTX 970).
I heard Geforce 1070/1080 are coming...

Is there any advantage moving to them (except for HEVC hw decoding) ?

1 - Due to HDMI 2.0 limitation, 2160p50 or 60 with RGB 444 at 10 bits is not possible
2 - Even if 10 bits option is available in the Nvidia Control Panel, this options seems working only for pro cards (quadro)





Looks like only ATI cards would produce a good 10 bits outptut.

You confirm these ?
From your point of view, what is the best and the bad between;

2160p60 - RGB 444 - 8 bpc
2160p60 - RGB 422 - 10 bpc
2160p60 - RGB 420 - 10 bpc


Maybe I should wait for the new ATI cards coming at the end of the month.
Is ATI do a better job than Nvidia for MadVr/Lav stuff ?

regards.
What settings are you using and at what resolution?

Generally speaking, if you do anything else than madVR, nvidia 1080 is unbeatable.

Ati brags about beating nvidia GTX 1080 with 2 cards in crossfire, but madVR doesn't work with SLI or with Crossfire, this is important to keep in mind.

Short story is that best quality you can achieve is by going for GTX1080, if you also do gaming.

If you use lower settings and no 4k, or you don't do gaming, you can settle for GTX 1070 or GTX980 or GTX 970, even lower.

Depends on your needs.
Georgel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2016, 15:32   #38410  |  Link
bcec
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 81
I have been recently seeing a weird behavior where avg render times are increasing 5-10 seconds into any scene (say from 34ms to 38-39ms). What's weird though is, if I start the playback few seconds later, the scene that had increased render time previously is fine, but now next scene gets the hit and so on. So it looks like something is happening over time that is bringing up the render time and seems unrelated to a given scene.

I am doing nnedi32 luma doubling for 1080->2160(23.976), and sharpen edges + enhance detail + deringing is on.

Has anyone seen this? Any quick tips I can try first?
bcec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2016, 20:16   #38411  |  Link
Asmodian
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 4,406
I have seen the render times increase like that when the video card starts declocking, either due to temperature or something else.
__________________
madVR options explained
Asmodian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th June 2016, 01:07   #38412  |  Link
ryrynz
Registered User
 
ryrynz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asmodian View Post
I have seen the render times increase like that when the video card starts declocking, either due to temperature or something else.
Yeah. Drop your NNEDI3 neurons down a touch.
ryrynz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th June 2016, 13:01   #38413  |  Link
ankytsati94
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 1
I just bought an hp laptop with Amd A8-7410 apu and R5 m330 graphics.
What would be the best settings for MadVr?
I am going to play 1080p on it only.
The laptop's display is 720p but i am going to connect it to my sony tv which is 1080p with 200hz refresh rate.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
ankytsati94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th June 2016, 13:28   #38414  |  Link
ryrynz
Registered User
 
ryrynz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by ankytsati94 View Post
What would be the best settings for MadVr?
Learn and decide for yourself
ryrynz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th June 2016, 15:26   #38415  |  Link
MariaX9
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryrynz View Post
Learn and decide for yourself
This Guide isn`t up to date.

I would recommend This
MariaX9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th June 2016, 16:19   #38416  |  Link
Patrik G
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sweden
Posts: 58
one question
has anyone compared any HDR demos on a HDR tv and compared the picture quality to what you get here with madvr?
i have a feeling that you can adjust the picture for HDR better here than what you can do from the HDR TVs which is more locked.
it would be cool to see some comparision photos from madvrs HDR performance and the tvs native.

also does the new GTX 1080 cards play hevc decoded videos smooth ?
the only problem here with the HDR demos is that they are a jerky with a GTX780 card

one more suggestion for HDR is if its possible to add the APL (average pixel level) information?
it seems that APL on most of the LG demos are higher than what UHD movies is at.
UHD movies are graded around 100 nits APL only but the LG demos are way to bright overall i think

you can darken or brighten the picture with different peak brightness settings but i dont think its the right thing to do?
if you choose an higher peak brightness than the tv or monitor has the picture gets darker overall but you also loose details in the highlights right?

Last edited by Patrik G; 27th June 2016 at 16:28.
Patrik G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th June 2016, 23:22   #38417  |  Link
Warner306
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,127
Quote:
Originally Posted by ankytsati94 View Post
I just bought an hp laptop with Amd A8-7410 apu and R5 m330 graphics.
What would be the best settings for MadVr?
I am going to play 1080p on it only.
The laptop's display is 720p but i am going to connect it to my sony tv which is 1080p with 200hz refresh rate.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Try the guide in my signature.
Warner306 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th June 2016, 10:26   #38418  |  Link
edison
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 106
Is it possible madvr support transfer the HDR metadata with HDMI 2.0a or DP 1.4 ? Is there any software player support this?
edison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th June 2016, 11:06   #38419  |  Link
huhn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,903
no there is no player supporting this and madVR can't do that.
huhn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th June 2016, 15:09   #38420  |  Link
surami
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Hungary
Posts: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrik G
has anyone compared any HDR demos on a HDR tv and compared the picture quality to what you get here with madvr?
Yes, I did comparisions and of course they look different, IMO two different rendering technics inside so it's not surprising. To make a photo about it would be irrelevant.

Different thing:
For my eyes the 0.90.21 has more saturated highlights, then the 0.90.17, for me the latter one is more realistic and looks better. In case Sony HDR demo, the clouds at sunset are too yellowish with 0.90.21, it would be fine to have an option to set up the compressed highlight's saturation manually.

Question for madshi: Which is your reference HDR video?
surami is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
direct compute, dithering, error diffusion, madvr, ngu, nnedi3, quality, renderer, scaling, uhd upscaling, upsampling

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:59.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.