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Cheers to Koepi and CO.....!!!!
Although we all cant help but be slightly biased by K,he is such an inventive and resourceful chap Happy Ney Year and may the codecs be with you!
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I didn't, and have found the answer myself as you can see in the edited part. It was a pretty legitimate question that needed to be answered, and answered it is.
You have the most professional approach to advanced video codecs benchmarking and codec manufacturers know that. I know that for ages as well. But it made sense to ask that question since the XVID guys work very intimately with this forum community as you know. I didn't knew if all teams knew what were the films, but the answer was there. Thank you for your hard work. I hope you continue this tradition over the next years Bilu |
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It's DXN's fault. It's up to them to recommend different settings for the movies, which they didn't do. So if DivX5 could've done better with different settings, they should've been suggested by the creators. Doom9 gave the perfect chance for any customization, which they just didn't use. Is it necessary to mention that in the conclusion?
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The settings were almost identical in both movies. Under "Matrix" Doom9 wrote "chroma motion, VHQ1" but they were concidered default (== also used) in SPR test. In the end, difference was number of b-frames (matrix 1, SPR 2) and quantization matrix. Also the only difference between settings used and defaults is Qpel and Trellis quant. Radek |
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I should've been more accurate in the XviD settings department. The only thing I activated was QPel and trellis quant in both SPR and Matrix (and the quantizers were different... for Matrix I used a special matrix but I think using H.263 would've resulted in about the same results, and for SPR being a 2 CD flick I used MPEG quantizers). B-frames and the rest were really the same.. it's just that at the point I was given the settings there were no beta3 standards yet (because I used a prebeta build). But except for the quantizers (and switching off b-frames and qpel) the settings were all the same for each movie.
But yes, the XviD team has always been rather forthcoming and enthusiastic about those codec comparisons (even though they haven't always scored as well as last time), which might or might not have made an impact. But it's up to every codec maker how much time they want to invest into this. I wouldn't call any codec inferior unless it really is a lot worse than the rest, so I'll leave it up to everybody to draw their own conclusions based on my comparison. You know my preference but your milage might differ.
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i always use XviD for my personnal encoding, i don't use any DivX5.X.X
so, I think XviD is better than DivX BUT.... "It's an abomination that Divx5 is so popular yet an inferior product (cost money too)." It doesn't sound very fair to me. Remember that Xvid is "Educationnal purposes only" while DivX have to pay mpeg-la patents. Anyway, i think you mustn't denigrate someone's work by using a such rude word like "abomination", specially when you don't even have the skill to write a poor codec. (isn't this type of behavior an abomination ? ) BTW, congratulations to XviD developpers |
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no settings file? I'm so used to nandub...heheh...and I still stand by it....second choice is and has always been xvid...because it's opensource. |
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