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7th January 2002, 21:21 | #1 | Link |
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Pixel or Quality?! Someone rip "Enemy at the gates" with Gordian?!
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my problem is: I try to rip "Thirteen Days" (bad DVD, shit on Kinowelt) and I want a 1-CD of course (its short about 2 hours long). But the quality Index for 576x320 for example is @ 20% VideoSize/FirstPass. I tested all resolutions with a few minutes of the film at the recommended bitrate. I think 480x256 looks like 704x384..., the resolutions between these looks worse. CAN THIS BE? What's best: Full resolution with bad pixels or less pixel with more quality? My feeling was, that it must be good in balance - less pixels (only a little bit) too get more quality for the rest of the pixels. But where is the perfect point? I know..., it cannot be a rule or a math formular. But when Gordian says "QUALITY SUCKS" @ 704x384 and it looks finally like the 480x256 "QUALITY OK", whats the better option? My first Rip was "Enemy at the gates". I do it with FlaskMpeg (20 times or more!!!). Finally it was PERFECT at 704x304 with 700,00 MB (2 hours, 5 minutes, 37 seconds). After this motivation-booster I changed to Nanodub and than to Gordian Knot (because the people talking about it - it must be better). I ripped more than 10 films but no of them reaches the quality of "Enemy at the gates". And for example "Exit Wounds" is 30 minutes shorter!! IS THE FILM A COMPRESSIBILITY CHAMP OR WHAT?! Someone else rip "enemy at the gates" with Gordian Knot? Or have a state-file of the compressibility? I WANT TO KNOW THIS! Otherwise I must get it again and rip it with nanodub first pass, to get an answer. PLEASE HELP, T. |
7th January 2002, 21:48 | #2 | Link |
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you should probably try the medium noise filter to put 13 days on one cd. 512x... bilinear could be possible, but i think that's the max.
saving private ryan compresses even less. sometimes it is better to go for 2 cds... wef. |
7th January 2002, 22:36 | #3 | Link |
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If I recall correctly, Enemy at the Gates is a very dark film. You can't expect the Nazis to have refrained from knocking out the light bulbs, I guess. Don't dark films compress well? That's one reason right there.
EDIT~I think it's also a low motion film, with a few scenes that prove to be the exception. |
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hi WEF,
noise filter I never used. Why with 13 days? Its not a "grizzly", is it? Or some other reasons for noise-filter? Yes 512x is maximum... Why bilinear? Can you describe this? I know, there are a lot of tutorials, but I read them and then I have a question? Shit happens... What does bicubic? It calculate the interpolated pixels with different gaussian blur? Yes, sometimes 2 CDs ist the only option. Think about that guys who post "Only 1-CD Rip is a real profi-work". Somebody say them, that there are different CD-Sizes... . What about that? "Only 420-MB Rips (3 hours of course) is real profi-work". For fun I ripped Pearl Harbor on minimum quality..., 54 Megs ist the result.... - IT LOOKS PERFECT!!! (only for the guys with a lot of fantasy) CU, & tanx |
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Sounds got to me what you write. A "grizzly" is a film, where you see every pixel in contrast to its neighbours. In use of resizing the most of them will kicked. That's another question: after resampling (down to 70% for example) it is no "grizzly", because the contrast is smoothen through the resizing. What bilinear can do at this point for me? It smoothen a little bit more and so the film has less detail (contrast) and the compressibility is better? Tanx & cu MAY THE COMPRESSIBILITY WITH YOU! |
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13 days: use bilinear or go for two cds. ok? wef. |
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