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Old 11th June 2017, 00:42   #44061  |  Link
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because the OSD is a powerful tool.

first of all deinterlancing is on but not used. why i don't know.
so i have to ask more things. what GPU and driver is used.

the next odd thing is the input file it is just NV12. is ffdshow or something like this min the filter list? a copy of the filter list may help.

a sample would help but i guess this is a totally normal DVB mpeg2 or h264 PAL stream right?

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a blind guess from me try to disable g-sync if active.
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Old 11th June 2017, 02:50   #44062  |  Link
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If using LAV, set it to Aggressive so it can turn on for any interlaced video stream, instead of relying on flags.
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Old 11th June 2017, 03:11   #44063  |  Link
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a blind guess from me try to disable g-sync if active.
Roger, but I thought as per https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...16#post1271416 , madVR doesn't use G-Sync?
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Old 11th June 2017, 03:32   #44064  |  Link
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Roger, but I thought as per https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...16#post1271416 , madVR doesn't use G-Sync?
No, G-Sync does not mix well with madVR. You need to turn it off, at least for your media player (add it to Program Settings and set Monitor Technology to Fixed Refresh, under Manage 3D Settings). G-Sync gets very confused and you get random drifting refresh rates with terrible judder as it drifts around.
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Old 11th June 2017, 08:11   #44065  |  Link
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because the OSD is a powerful tool.

first of all deinterlancing is on but not used. why i don't know.
so i have to ask more things. what GPU and driver is used.

the next odd thing is the input file it is just NV12. is ffdshow or something like this min the filter list? a copy of the filter list may help.

a sample would help but i guess this is a totally normal DVB mpeg2 or h264 PAL stream right?
A GTS450. I have LAV A/V codecs set in ProgDVB. (I see no way to control the splitter, and I can't tell what is used).

I just realized that deinterlacing does work at startup, but only as long as I don't switch to another channel.
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Old 11th June 2017, 10:29   #44066  |  Link
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The composition rate stays at 75.00-something Hz while the display rate fluctuates around 74.8-something Hz, but never hits 75 Hz. After a rather significant amount of time - mostly after about an hour into a movie because I don't notice this when playing 24-minute anime episodes - the display rate sharply drops to 40.00-something Hz, then slowly climbs back up to 66.3-something Hz. This all happens without any visible effects or any increase in the dropped frames/display glitches counters. Interestingly the clock deviation statistic does not seem to change along with the display rate change. I am not using ReClock.
Lowering display refresh rate is a fairly common power management feature of laptop GPUs. Try to disable power management options in your GPU drivers. If you have an Optimus system (Intel + nVidia combined), you might have more luck looking into the Intel GPU driver options.
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Old 11th June 2017, 11:12   #44067  |  Link
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Got HDMI connection errors sometimes during movies and getting black screen video, while audio still works. Got a friend having same problems. So I put the rx480 into my gaming pc.
I experience this problem with my TV when the data rate is too high for the cable. This is why AMD added a cable check in their latest drivers. A good cable solves the problem, or stay within the bandwidth of the cable. I had same issue with my Pioneer DVD player in the past. A new cable fixed the problem. The problem starts over again with 4K via older HDMI cables. Anyway, I have no issues with my XFX RX 480.
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Old 11th June 2017, 11:56   #44068  |  Link
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make sure your GPU queues are at least at 8.
What queues would you recommend for gtx 1050ti 4gb?
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Old 11th June 2017, 12:13   #44069  |  Link
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I experience this problem with my TV when the data rate is too high for the cable. This is why AMD added a cable check in their latest drivers. A good cable solves the problem, or stay within the bandwidth of the cable. I had same issue with my Pioneer DVD player in the past. A new cable fixed the problem. The problem starts over again with 4K via older HDMI cables. Anyway, I have no issues with my XFX RX 480.
doesn't make any sense the data rate never changes.
the cable check is uesless i even talk to AMD and ask them why this check doesn't do anything and they didn't even know what this thing does. depending on the driver used you will never get the image back until you unplug it. there is something big broken.

and most important why doesn't this happen with nvidia. is there signal better so it works on older cables constantly? i'm through 5 cables and a PS4 pro sending the same type of signal using an AMD GPU with no issues.

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A GTS450. I have LAV A/V codecs set in ProgDVB. (I see no way to control the splitter, and I can't tell what is used).

I just realized that deinterlacing does work at startup, but only as long as I don't switch to another channel.
sounds like a bug to me but not sure where.
you should be able to force deinterlancing with control+shift+alt+d
better than nothing i guess.

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What queues would you recommend for gtx 1050ti 4gb?
defaults should be fine.

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Old 11th June 2017, 12:30   #44070  |  Link
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I'd like to revive the conversation about the noise NGU generates in GPU, at least in my 1060. This weird ticking/clicking noise? I'm not complaining or hoping for a software fix, but as a phenomenon it feels very curious. I thought it was just a power issue, but running NNEDI256 doesn't cause that sound. Did we ever find a reasonable explanation? At NGU high the sound is basically inaudible and I'll just bump up other madvr goodies to compensate But still, it's facinating.
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Old 11th June 2017, 12:41   #44071  |  Link
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I suspect NGU produce GPU load in somewhat unusual way. Like extremely throbbing load, high load of specific GPU blocks or something like that.
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Old 11th June 2017, 13:01   #44072  |  Link
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sounds like a bug to me but not sure where.
you should be able to force deinterlancing with control+shift+alt+d
better than nothing i guess.
It does no more than print out the message of deinterlacing being turned on/off and change the text on the OSD. Deinterlacing still doesn't work, no matter how many times I flip it.
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Old 11th June 2017, 13:08   #44073  |  Link
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It does no more than print out the message of deinterlacing being turned on/off and change the text on the OSD. Deinterlacing still doesn't work, no matter how many times I flip it.
if you can't force deinterlancing with the hotkey than this should be a bug in madVR.

i guess you need to ask a different progDVB user if it works for him. so nothing i can do anymore.
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Old 11th June 2017, 13:33   #44074  |  Link
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doesn't make any sense the data rate never changes.
the cable check is uesless i even talk to AMD and ask them why this check doesn't do anything and they didn't even know what this thing does. depending on the driver used you will never get the image back until you unplug it. there is something big broken.
12 bits, 10 bits, 8 bits, 4:4:4, 4:2:2, 4:2:0, 23hz, 24hz, 50hz, 60hz, 1080p, 2160p all give different data rates

I use 1080p, 10 bits, 4:2:0, 60hz on a 12 meters cable between AMD RX 480 and Marantz receiver. This works fine. Higher bit rate causes glitches and screen goes black for seconds.

True, the check does not improve the signal. It is added to tell you if the cable is not ok. This seems not to work. HDMI uses power steering at peers end of the cable. HDMI is sensitive to the HDMI implementation of the devices. It may happen that there is a mismatch between the devices and cable. A solution is to use a HDMI repeater. (HDMI 2.1 is bases on repeaters for long distances)

Beside a good cable, check updates of the TV. My new samsung KS7000 got an update to improve HDMI connection with some UHD players.
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Old 11th June 2017, 13:38   #44075  |  Link
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Hi guys,

is there any boolean value to apply a specific "profile" to hdr content with "undefined hdr"?

I created a profile with the boolean value "HDR". Problem is, I have some videos which doe have HDR but somehow with hdr flag resulting in this "HDR: undefined" instead of HDR: 4000 nits for example.
And in this case the HDR boolean value does not recognize the profile as being HDR.

@madshi: would it be possible to extend the HDR boolean value to hdr undefined?

@all: could I maybe filter with with a bollean value like "REC2020"? Or maybe H265?

Thank you!
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Old 11th June 2017, 14:28   #44076  |  Link
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12 bits, 10 bits, 8 bits, 4:4:4, 4:2:2, 4:2:0, 23hz, 24hz, 50hz, 60hz, 1080p, 2160p all give different data rates
but they stay the same every time they don't change ever.
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I use 1080p, 10 bits, 4:2:0, 60hz on a 12 meters cable between AMD RX 480 and Marantz receiver. This works fine. Higher bit rate causes glitches and screen goes black for seconds.
you are send about 1/8 of the UHD bandwidth and you are already at the limited. even for 12 meter this is pretty bad and i was using 1.5-2 meter cables.
and BTW. 1080p 4:2:0 is not part of the HDMI spec.

2160p60 4:4:4 is fine with my nvidia cards.
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Seems like madvr doesnt recognize the display name. I tried the name that madvr shows me under the "devices" tab in madvr settings. Is this a bug?
Yes. And madshi knows this
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Old 12th June 2017, 14:35   #44078  |  Link
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you are send about 1/8 of the UHD bandwidth and you are already at the limited. even for 12 meter this is pretty bad and i was using 1.5-2 meter cables.
and BTW. 1080p 4:2:0 is not part of the HDMI spec.

2160p60 4:4:4 is fine with my nvidia cards.
The limit is 2160p30 4:2:0 on 12 meter. 30 Hz ís a too low frequency for Windows on the TV. With 2 meter cable 2160p60 4:4:4 works fine. Perhaps I should try a HDMI repeater and see if I can get more out of the 12 meter cable.
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Hi I have been trying to get HDR working on my tv but with no luck. I use the passthrough option with both nvidia and win10 api, and neither one managed to send hdr signal to my tv, I suppose it's because the metadata was not sent, what could be the reason? I am using a dell inspiron 15 7000 series 7559. Also, not sure if it's related but I never got the hdr switch on the display page after the win 10 anniversary update

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The limit is 2160p30 4:2:0 on 12 meter. 30 Hz ís a too low frequency for Windows on the TV. With 2 meter cable 2160p60 4:4:4 works fine. Perhaps I should try a HDMI repeater and see if I can get more out of the 12 meter cable.
there is no such limited on a 12 meter cable.
a 12 meter high speed cable has to be able to do the same as a 2 meter high speed cable or it is not high speed.
no need to discuss this in the madVR thread.
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