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Old 16th August 2011, 23:15   #1481  |  Link
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Why don't you guys try madVR instead of Haali Renderer?

I replaced HR as soon as madVR was released, with no regrets at all.
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Old 16th August 2011, 23:49   #1482  |  Link
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Why don't you guys try madVR instead of Haali Renderer?

I replaced HR as soon as madVR was released, with no regrets at all.
Because its too heavy for all videos. Plus it tends to cause hangs.
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Old 17th August 2011, 00:37   #1483  |  Link
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Haali renderer looks like this. With huge blocks. Can anyone at least give a hint what could cause it to show such broken rendering?
I got the same quality with my ATI mobile HD3470 card. But it works fine with my Intel buildin card. I am using a thinkpad laptop with switchable display card. And I kept all softwares and drivers up to date.
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Old 17th August 2011, 00:38   #1484  |  Link
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Because its too heavy for all videos. Plus it tends to cause hangs.
Because the author refused to make a x64 build.
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Old 17th August 2011, 00:57   #1485  |  Link
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Because its too heavy for all videos. Plus it tends to cause hangs.
Get a proper PC. It doesn't hang for me - v0.73 is awesome.

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Because the author refused to make a x64 build.
x64 is completely pointless for video playback. No video playback application should ever need more that 2GB of ram.

I run exclusively 32 bit video filters on a 64 bit PC, there is no problem.
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Old 17th August 2011, 01:38   #1486  |  Link
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Haali renderer looks like this. With huge blocks. Can anyone at least give a hint what could cause it to show such broken rendering?
IIRC, there's an option that requires a reboot in Rivatuner that will fix this problem on ATi hardware...something to do w/ PS support IIRC. Read the last pages of this thread, it was discussed here I think.

Make sure not to use HR in YUY2 as its BT.601/709 coeffs are borked...you're not getting the right colors.
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Old 17th August 2011, 06:13   #1487  |  Link
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64-bit CPUs have twice the amount of registers - which means less need to access L1/2/3 cache which is slower.
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Old 17th August 2011, 07:12   #1488  |  Link
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64-bit CPUs have twice the amount of registers - which means less need to access L1/2/3 cache which is slower.
...and pointers are - surprise, surprise - twice as big as in 32-bit...

By the way, what is the point of this thread? There hasn't been one HR-related fix/update in HMS for years which means it's practically dead and anybody using it, is just looking for trouble. Why?
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Old 17th August 2011, 15:56   #1489  |  Link
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...and pointers are - surprise, surprise - twice as big as in 32-bit...

By the way, what is the point of this thread? There hasn't been one HR-related fix/update in HMS for years which means it's practically dead and anybody using it, is just looking for trouble. Why?
EVR hasn't caught up yet.
EX: EVR drops audio when it cannot catch up, Haali doesn't. (Just frame-skipping doesn't interfere with the experience as much)
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Old 17th August 2011, 19:12   #1490  |  Link
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Get a proper PC. It doesn't hang for me - v0.73 is awesome.



x64 is completely pointless for video playback. No video playback application should ever need more that 2GB of ram.

I run exclusively 32 bit video filters on a 64 bit PC, there is no problem.
I have a proper PC.
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IIRC, there's an option that requires a reboot in Rivatuner that will fix this problem on ATi hardware...something to do w/ PS support IIRC. Read the last pages of this thread, it was discussed here I think.

Make sure not to use HR in YUY2 as its BT.601/709 coeffs are borked...you're not getting the right colors.
Thanks for the tip. I'll try check it out.
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I got the same quality with my ATI mobile HD3470 card. But it works fine with my Intel buildin card. I am using a thinkpad laptop with switchable display card. And I kept all softwares and drivers up to date.
Kind of suspected it might turn out to be a video card issue...
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Old 18th August 2011, 07:46   #1491  |  Link
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Contrast to Fastplayer's statement, HMS has never been more popular or is distributed more then it is right now.

In fact we have been working on it over the past few months and plan a first release with CoreAVC 3.0 and for CoreMVC 3D. This new version will not address all the issues, but it will start the ball rolling again to work on it as reports come in.
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Old 18th August 2011, 11:19   #1492  |  Link
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The Splitter or the Renderer? I used both for years and years.

But the Renderer has never played smooth for HD video - not completely. madVR is as smooth as silk.

And the splitter doesn't label the audio streams on Bluray - makes it impossible to use. LAVSplitter does everything, very, very well.
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and plan a first release with CoreAVC 3.0
LOL!!!!!
So in a few years?
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Contrast to Fastplayer's statement, HMS has never been more popular or is distributed more then it is right now.
Just to clarify: I was talking about the included renderer, not the splitter package in general.
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Old 18th August 2011, 13:35   #1495  |  Link
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I would be nice to see a public bug tracker for Haali and CoreCodec products. With active feedback from a developer. Because currently there is no central place to report bugs, or view known bugs, the communication sucks, feedback takes way too long if any at all, and it takes ages for bugs to be fixed or even acknowledged.
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IIRC, there's an option that requires a reboot in Rivatuner that will fix this problem on ATi hardware...something to do w/ PS support IIRC. Read the last pages of this thread, it was discussed here I think.

Make sure not to use HR in YUY2 as its BT.601/709 coeffs are borked...you're not getting the right colors.
Didn't see any difference between RGB32 and YUY2. Is it just me or HR does it ok now?
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Old 19th August 2011, 10:30   #1497  |  Link
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Didn't see any difference between RGB32 and YUY2. Is it just me or HR does it ok now?
it does not AFAIK, try this: rec709.mkv
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Old 19th August 2011, 13:17   #1498  |  Link
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it does not AFAIK, try this: rec709.mkv
You are right, there are some difference.But RGB32 and YUY2@BT.601 are same, YUY2@BT.709 and YUY2@auto are same. And I think RGB32 is a little wired... Which one is right?
I am a little confused. The clip is in BT.709, right? So if HR is working fine, set YUY2 in coreave and BT.709 or auto in HR are ok; set RGB32 in coreavc will also be ok. If HR is wrong, while, RGB32 should be right.
I am changing color space from coreavc, because I do not have ffdshow installed.

RGB32

YUY2 601

YUY2 709

YUY2 auto

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Old 19th May 2012, 17:01   #1499  |  Link
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How does one install Haali Renderer alone while NOT installing Haali Splitter?

MadVR is fine for my desktop but its too much for my laptop and I wish to use Haali Renderer but keep LAV for media splitting of MKV files.
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Old 19th May 2012, 17:39   #1500  |  Link
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DSH Friendly Name Haali Video Renderer
REG Driver File ....\Haali\MatroskaSplitter\dxr.dll
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