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Kurtnoise · 27th May 2005, 18:00

In Splitting tab...Open a file and Preview button appears. !!!

Hobojobo · 27th May 2005, 18:13

Uupps.

Of course.

SeeMoreDigital · 27th May 2005, 18:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
If it's ok (ie you can see the video and you can move the trackbar w/o freezing with version 1), I want to know what dshow filters did you use and what did you have exactly in your mp4 (what kind of video, audio formats, etc...).

Hi Kurt,

Just to let you know when I tried "version 1" earlier today I got this: -

Currently I have NeroDigital DSdec filter, parsers etc and XviD's DSdec filter installed.

The encode contained Mpeg4 SP video and 1No AAC-LC audio stream with no chapters, subs or MetaData.

Cheers

Kurtnoise · 27th May 2005, 19:59

mmmh ok...try to render this file directly in GraphEdit and play it. Tell me what's happend at this time.

SeeMoreDigital · 27th May 2005, 22:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
mmmh ok...try to render this file directly in GraphEdit and play it. Tell me what's happend at this time.

Errr.... GraphEdit says this: -

There's no audio rendering at all... Bummer!

Koti · 28th May 2005, 05:28

Yamb 1.3 alpha1

File - Nero Avc video (Haalis,ffdshow,videorenderer)

File - x264 video (Haalis,ffdshow,videorenderer)

File - Xvid video (Haalis,ffdshow,videorenderer)

All files had Aac (Haalis,CoreAacDec) 1-4 streams .
One file with x264/5.1Vorbis (Haali's,CoreVorbisDec) , some had ttxt's and chapters too and a few older Xvid were muxed with 3ivx.
(about 20 mp4's total were opened sucessfully , viewing/seeking)

Disabled ffdshow and used nero's decoder for avc, got "pins are not connected" error but a seperate active movie window appeared that I could seek in.
under this configuration graphedit would render NeroAvc/x264 files with no errors [Haalis,nerodecoder,videorenderer)

Did not try nero splitter.

Switching input content (Avc - Xvid) while using nero's decoder, Yamb became unresponsive.

(More)
NDParser.ax with ffdshow = frozen Yamb
NDParser.ax with nero decoder = buggy , opens 2nd active movie window but with pin connect errors , file will show and seek.

Kurtnoise · 28th May 2005, 09:59

@SMD : install CoreAAC.

@Koti : many thanks for the tests. It seems that Yamb doesn't like Nero Bundle...

SeeMoreDigital · 28th May 2005, 11:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
@SMD : install CoreAAC.

Just installed Core's audio DSdec filter and their parser.... and although GraphEdit is now able to build/complete the Graph. YAMB reports exactly the same error.

So the problem must be with Nero's video DSdec and/or parser!

Cheers

OddbOd77 · 28th May 2005, 16:28

I tested a Nero AVC + AAC video and the Mediacontrol AniMatrix Sample from the Osmo4 page and got identical results, i.e. works perfectly if Haali Splitter and ffdshow are used but fails when either the Nero splitter or Nero Audio dshow filters are used.

@SeeMoreDigital:
Haali->Nero Video Decoder->Video Renderer
\----->ffdshow Audio decoder->Directsound

Seems to work fine in Graphedit as well (though not with YAMB), trying to replace ffdshow with Nero Audio Decoder did not work at all. It looks like its the Nero file source/splitter that causes the problem, the audio decoder not working is fairly minor by comparison (still annoying though).

Ooops, I forgot to say thanks to Kurtnoise13, YAMB is already quite handy and getting better by the day keep up the good work.

Kurtnoise · 28th May 2005, 17:10

Thanks.

Today I tested with different samples...and same conclusion. I don't know if it's good or bad (ie I don't want to force people to install some other filters). So, for the moment I stick around with import Settings and I'll see this trick after the next release.

bond · 28th May 2005, 17:21

nero's filters have lots of limitations, i wouldnt be surprised at all when there is some mechanism that restricts their useage in an external tool, like yamb

Quote:

Originally posted by OddbOd77
I tested a Nero AVC + AAC video and the Mediacontrol AniMatrix Sample from the Osmo4 page and got identical results

btw this sample use asp video, not avc

Hyper Shinchan · 4th June 2005, 12:15

Hi Kurtnoise 13! It's a great GUI your Yamb! I was thinking, if is not possible to include an option to mux the subtitles in VobSubs, like it does Nero Recod? so it's possible to watch them on a Nero Digital certified player.
Tnx!

Kurtnoise · 4th June 2005, 12:41

Not possible because mp4box doesn't support this format.

Hyper Shinchan · 4th June 2005, 12:58

Oh! I will try some other ways (if there is some other ways).
(Anyway Yamb is excellent to remux avi to mp4).

Kurtnoise · 4th June 2005, 13:17

Recode is the only way...

Hyper Shinchan · 4th June 2005, 15:41

Yes, but I have to mux a DX50 MPEG-4 with an AAC audio stream and a subtitle stream (ssa that I've converted to srt) and I don't want to recode them, I've already recode the audio (all these files come from an mkv with ac3 audio).
Maybe I will convert it to avi, it's the better way.....

bond · 4th June 2005, 16:11

kurt meant that nero recode is the only tool that places vobsubs in .mp4, not that you have to reencode audio and video

Hyper Shinchan · 4th June 2005, 21:01

O.K., I hope that in the future there will be some other tools that support Vobsubs, it's useful, especially if you don't want to reencode the movie (or if you don't have Nero Recode)

bond · 4th June 2005, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Shinchan

O.K., I hope that in the future there will be some other tools that support Vobsubs, it's useful, especially if you don't want to reencode the movie (or if you don't have Nero Recode)

why would you need to have to reencode the video for having subtitles?
simply convert the vobsubs to .srt for example and than place them in .mp4 with yamb/mp4box

SeeMoreDigital · 4th June 2005, 21:13

I agree with you Hyper Shinchan. I would post a request to jeanlf myself... but he frightens me

Cheers

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Koti Always trying Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The O.C. Posts: 222	Yamb 1.3 alpha1 File - Nero Avc video (Haalis,ffdshow,videorenderer) File - x264 video (Haalis,ffdshow,videorenderer) File - Xvid video (Haalis,ffdshow,videorenderer) All files had Aac (Haalis,CoreAacDec) 1-4 streams . One file with x264/5.1Vorbis (Haali's,CoreVorbisDec) , some had ttxt's and chapters too and a few older Xvid were muxed with 3ivx. (about 20 mp4's total were opened sucessfully , viewing/seeking) Disabled ffdshow and used nero's decoder for avc, got "pins are not connected" error but a seperate active movie window appeared that I could seek in. under this configuration graphedit would render NeroAvc/x264 files with no errors [Haalis,nerodecoder,videorenderer) Did not try nero splitter. Switching input content (Avc - Xvid) while using nero's decoder, Yamb became unresponsive. (More) NDParser.ax with ffdshow = frozen Yamb NDParser.ax with nero decoder = buggy , opens 2nd active movie window but with pin connect errors , file will show and seek. Last edited by Koti; 28th May 2005 at 16:34.

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OddbOd77 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5	I tested a Nero AVC + AAC video and the Mediacontrol AniMatrix Sample from the Osmo4 page and got identical results, i.e. works perfectly if Haali Splitter and ffdshow are used but fails when either the Nero splitter or Nero Audio dshow filters are used. @SeeMoreDigital: Haali->Nero Video Decoder->Video Renderer \----->ffdshow Audio decoder->Directsound Seems to work fine in Graphedit as well (though not with YAMB), trying to replace ffdshow with Nero Audio Decoder did not work at all. It looks like its the Nero file source/splitter that causes the problem, the audio decoder not working is fairly minor by comparison (still annoying though). Ooops, I forgot to say thanks to Kurtnoise13, YAMB is already quite handy and getting better by the day keep up the good work. Last edited by OddbOd77; 28th May 2005 at 16:34.

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bond Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9,770	kurt meant that nero recode is the only tool that places vobsubs in .mp4, not that you have to reencode audio and video __________________ Between the weak and the strong one it is the freedom which oppresses and the law that liberates (Jean Jacques Rousseau) I know, that I know nothing (Socrates) MPEG-4 ASP FAQ \| AVC/H.264 FAQ \| AAC FAQ \| MP4 FAQ \| MP4Menu stores DVD Menus in MP4 (guide) Ogg Theora \| Ogg Vorbis use WM9 today and get Micro$oft controlling the A/V market tomorrow for free

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SeeMoreDigital Life's clearer in 4K UHD Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 12,227	I agree with you Hyper Shinchan. I would post a request to jeanlf myself... but he frightens me Cheers __________________ \| I've been testing hardware media playback devices and software A/V encoders and decoders since 2001 \| My Network Layout & A/V Gear \|

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Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	In Splitting tab...Open a file and Preview button appears. !!!

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Hobojobo don't blame me! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 276	Uupps. Of course.

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Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	mmmh ok...try to render this file directly in GraphEdit and play it. Tell me what's happend at this time.

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Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	@SMD : install CoreAAC. @Koti : many thanks for the tests. It seems that Yamb doesn't like Nero Bundle...

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Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	Thanks. Today I tested with different samples...and same conclusion. I don't know if it's good or bad (ie I don't want to force people to install some other filters). So, for the moment I stick around with import Settings and I'll see this trick after the next release.

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Hyper Shinchan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 286	Hi Kurtnoise 13! It's a great GUI your Yamb! I was thinking, if is not possible to include an option to mux the subtitles in VobSubs, like it does Nero Recod? so it's possible to watch them on a Nero Digital certified player. Tnx!

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Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	Not possible because mp4box doesn't support this format.

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Hyper Shinchan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 286	Oh! I will try some other ways (if there is some other ways). (Anyway Yamb is excellent to remux avi to mp4).

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Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	Recode is the only way...

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Hyper Shinchan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 286	Yes, but I have to mux a DX50 MPEG-4 with an AAC audio stream and a subtitle stream (ssa that I've converted to srt) and I don't want to recode them, I've already recode the audio (all these files come from an mkv with ac3 audio). Maybe I will convert it to avi, it's the better way.....

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Hyper Shinchan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 286	O.K., I hope that in the future there will be some other tools that support Vobsubs, it's useful, especially if you don't want to reencode the movie (or if you don't have Nero Recode)