EVOB De/Multiplexers

@chros

Just as I pointed out in the other forum, it's the Sonic filters that mess around with telecine/pulldown flags. The VC-1 decoder itself will output 24fps progressive.

Have you tried AssumeFPS() ?

[chros]

Originally Posted by honai

...it's the Sonic filters that mess around with telecine/pulldown flags. The VC-1 decoder itself will output 24fps progressive.

Have you tried AssumeFPS() ?

AssumeFPS is totally wrong here with the Sonic filters. It gives 1 min 20 sec video besides the 1 min 04 sec video.
AssumeFPS("ntsc_film") as with v2.5.7
From the doc:
The AssumeFPS filter changes the frame rate without changing the frame count (causing the video to play faster or slower).

[bond]

Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

Do you know if some samples have been sent to the MP4Box guys?


Cheers

i didnt

[tomos]

Originally Posted by chros

I know it's demultiplexer thread, but can anyone managed to do a perfect graph and avisynth script to produce 23.976 fps without TIVTC?
I only achieved this with TIVTC...

Graph: MAININTRO.grf
--------
mainintro.evo -> Sonic HD Demuxer -> Sonic Cinemaster VideoDecoder 4.1

Avs script: 720p.avs
-------------
DirectShowSource("MAININTRO.grf",audio=false,convertfps=true)
# TIVTC - Bottom field first
tfm(order=0).tdecimate()
ConvertToYV12()
LanczosResize(1280,720)

The strange thing is, that if I don't use the convertfps=true option (and use the fps=29.97 option), avisynth can't connet to the graph or can just no picture ...

Thanks

hmm, i'm using a similar script.

mine is EVO -> sonic HD demuxer -> sonic video decoder -> VMR renderer 9.

this plays the video fine in the preview but when trying to open the avs file i get this err

Avisynth open failure:
DirectShowSource: GRF file does not have a compatible open video pin.
Graph must have 1 output pin that will bid RGB24, RGB32, ARGB, YUY2 or YV12
(H:\clip.avs, line 1)

this is the same whether i have ConvertToYV12 - in there or not, the same for convertfps

oddly, the demuxed video stream (VC-1) opens fine

[Isochroma]

@tomos: AVISynth connects to one output pin in the graph, so if you have all the pins already connected, how can it connect?

Like a little pig, you must save a teat on mother for it to suckle.

Remove the video renderer, then AVISynth will be able to connect to the video output pin of Sonic Video Decoder.

[drmpeg]

Here's a stand-alone command line EVOB demuxer for folks to try:

http://www.w6rz.net/evob_demux.zip

Usage is:

demux <-p> <infile> <video outfile> <audio outfile> <audio track>

typically:

demux movie.evo bits.mpv bits.mpa 0

The -p option dumps the PES header PTS values.

Unfortunately, I have only one .evo sample file that bond pointed me to. So it's not very well tested. However, if folks could PM me with samples (of all flavors, VC-1, H.264, DD, DD+, etc.), it should be fairly easy to add stream types.

Ron

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally Posted by drmpeg

Unfortunately, I have only one .evo sample file that bond pointed me to. So it's not very well tested. However, if folks could PM me with samples (of all flavors, VC-1, H.264, DD, DD+, etc.), it should be fairly easy to add stream types.

Indeed.... I would not mind some samples too!

[tomos]

Originally Posted by Isochroma

@tomos: AVISynth connects to one output pin in the graph, so if you have all the pins already connected, how can it connect?

Like a little pig, you must save a teat on mother for it to suckle.

Remove the video renderer, then AVISynth will be able to connect to the video output pin of Sonic Video Decoder.

thanking you - works

[chros]

Is it right that movies on HD-DVD are 24 fps and not 23.976 ???

regarding to the avs script:
I have done some test and calculation.
I have opened the 2 feature file in PowerDVD, and the durations:
f1: 01:09:13 , f2: 00:49:47 , so overall: 01:59:00

I have tried 3 version of the avs script:
1. no ivtc (none) , 2. TIVTC (as posted) , 3. TIVTC and AssumeFPS(24)
The results (by avisynth):

	None:		TIVTC:  	TIVTC+24
-------------------------------------------------
frames:	214035		171228		171228
time:	01:59:01:620	01:59:01:620	01:58:54:500
fps:	29.9701		23.9761		24.0000
fps:	5000000/166833	4000000/166833	24/1

As the time displayed by PowerDVD (of course it's just a rough value, but defenetly not 01:58:54:500 ), the TIVTC+24 method is totally wrong. The TIVTC method is the closest one, but the question is whether HD-DVDs store the movies with this fps (23.976). If not then the Sonic Video filter is wrong in the chain ...

[juhu]

Originally Posted by drmpeg

Unfortunately, I have only one .evo sample file that bond pointed me to. So it's not very well tested. However, if folks could PM me with samples (of all flavors, VC-1, H.264, DD, DD+, etc.), it should be fairly easy to add stream types.

Ron

I saw that on the mule :
[link removed]

VC1 encoded, high bitrate (around 20mb/sec !). Sound is DDplus 5.1 according to Powerdvd
Just tried your lovely exe on it. Seems to work for video, but not for audio (0k file, tried with audio track 0 & 1)

[asasadad_1]

@drmpeg
wvc1.dd plus.evo(15.0 MB) is a small sample.

[lordx]

I've tried demux.exe on a decrypted backup of my HD-DVD .
Seems to demux video but audio is 0 Ko ... tried 0 or 1, same result.

[holzi]

Yes Video demuxx seems to work.
Well at least it wirtes some data
What graph to use to playback the demux video?
Kind of stuck atm

Edit: Ok forgot the Sonic HD Demuxer now it works so video is demuxed

[MrDVD]

The demuxed video plays also in Powerdvd without Sonic HD Demuxer.

[moshmothma]

I managed to get playback of evo files in zoom player and theatetek. It's really a bit of kludge but both audio and video works. The big problem. I cannot seek. Also, both files must begin at the same time so you cannot resume. Please take special note of the filter chain and ensure all are installed.

For zoom player use the following:

1. Create a file called evo.mediagraph
2. paste the following into the file:

LoadFilter({9DC15360-914C-46B8-B9DF-BFE67FD36C6A},ReClock_Audio_Renderer)
LoadFilter({51B4ABF3-748F-4E3B-A276-C828330E926A},Video_Mixing_Renderer_9)
LoadFilter({7E2E0DC1-31FD-11D2-9C21-00104B3801F6},InterVideo Audio Decoder)
LoadFilter({317DDB73-870E-11D3-9C32-00104B3801F7},InterVideo_Demultiplexer)
LoadFilter({D7D50E8D-DD72-43C2-8587-A0C197D837D2},Sonic_Cinemaster®_VideoDecoder_4.1)
LoadFilter({250D7B7D-4344-41FD-A284-7299B7765F18},Sonic_HD_Demuxer_0001)
LoadFilter({E436EBB5-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770},Source File_0)
LoadFilter({E436EBB5-524F-11CE-9F53-0020AF0BA770},Source File_1)


SetFilterFileName(Source File_0,<FileName>)
SetFilterFileName(Source File_1,<FileName>)
ConnectPin(Source File_0,Output,Sonic_HD_Demuxer_0001,Input)
ConnectPin(Source File_1,Output,InterVideo_Demultiplexer,Input)
ConnectPin(InterVideo_Demultiplexer,Audio,InterVideo Audio Decoder,In)
ConnectPin(Sonic_HD_Demuxer_0001,Video Out,Sonic_Cinemaster®_VideoDecoder_4.1,Video in)
ConnectPin(InterVideo Audio Decoder,Out,ReClock_Audio_Renderer,In)
ConnectPin(Sonic_Cinemaster®_VideoDecoder_4.1,Video Out,Video Mixing Renderer 9,VMR Input0)

3. Save file in zoomplayer\mediagraph folder
4. In Zoom player (latest version) - go to system - filter management - manual fitlers and choose 'auto by extension'
5. Play file

You can also use graphedit to export an xml file to use in theatertek. The problem I encountered with theatertek was that it would not except two blank source pins. Using the graph I created in Graphedit I could export it and use it solely in theatertek. Maybe someone can figure out a tweak.

Have fun.

[holzi]

Originally Posted by MrDVD

The demuxed video plays also in Powerdvd without Sonic HD Demuxer.

Ok nice I don't have it installed so can't check.

I thought I could play it with fddshow but that just crashed graph edit

[Isochroma]

Thanks drmpeg! Using the departed trailer EVO, I can successfully demux the H264 video track; it muxes just fine in the latest MKVToolnix 2.0.0 (with first update installed too).

However, the audio track does not work (it's regular AC3), the output file is created but it is 0 bytes.

[Warren]

Guys please do not use the Departed trailer to validate anything. It is a homemmade EVOB and has next to nothing in common with HD DVD EVOBs.

@moshmothma

tried your graph on three movies:

- Pitch Black: no sound at all
- Serenity: no sound at all
- Chronicles of Riddick: the Intervideo Audio Decoder downmixes to stereo, no sound if I switch to S/PDIF output

It seems that Intervideo doesn't decode DD+ at all, but in case of Riddick simply downmixes the DTS track in there. Tried putting in the Cyberlink Audio Decoder, but won't work either.

The commercial HD-DVD rips I have here use 0xc0 .. 0xc2.

However, two unsolved problems remain:

* we can't mux VC-1 elementary streams because the tech spec is payware
* we can't mux/decode DD+ (other than proprietary playback/downmixing inside PowerDVD) because there's no DirectShow decoder for it