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26th December 2012, 15:14 | #16601 | Link |
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Thanks for the new versions. Quick q for anyone I guess. Is it possible to open in FSE without seeing the "exclusive" message. I don't delay for 3 seconds to display it, and I have mpc set to open files in fullscreen immediately which it does. I thought this wasn't supposed to show the madVR "exclusive" message?
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I'm experiencing some weird artifacts (it is some weird horizontal lines which appear) when using image scaling other than Bilinear on a 720x480 mpg2 encoded interlaced test clip which I usually to test with. Everything from mitchell to spline exhibit it clearly, where as Jinc doesn't show the artifacts too much but is still present. When I get home later from work I'll try to throw in some actual DVD's and see if the issue is still occurring. Not sure if this has something to do with the changes you made to the shaders for speed up purposes or something else. This is with the latest 0.85.6 build and latest Lav Filters (software decoding) and MadVR deinterlacing enabled.
Even when I disable MadVR's deinterlacer the artifacts show up so that leads me to believe it's something with the image scaler algorithm used. (I also disabled MadVR's deinterlacing and enabled Yadif through Lav Video and the artifacts are still present.) Again, when the video is played back at it's original resolution of 720x480 no artifacts regardless of deinterlacing being on or off and regardless of deinterlacer used, but once I upscale and go FSE to my 1920x1080p (1680x1080 is the actual upscale resolution since it's a 4x3 clip), the artifacts are present. FSE doesn't have any impact on it either. So for now I'll stick with bilinear for chroma and image upscaling till we can figure this out.
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26th December 2012, 18:18 | #16606 | Link |
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Gray instead of black bars
madshi, guys,
a friend of mine who is using a plasma TV for watching movies and Live/Recorded TV asked me a question that I couldn't answer. He's using MPC-HC + madVR and asked me if it's possible to make the black bars around a 4:3 frame on a 16:9 FullHD display a shade of gray not pure black. There is such a setting in the options of the TV but this only works when the TV sees the actual 4:3 signal, not the 1920x1080 signal from the HTPC. He thinks and I kind of agree that this will make the image retention on the plasma a bit less pronounced when he switches back to 16:9 or 2.35:1 afterwards. So I thought this is something that belongs to the renderer, right? I looked around but sadly none of them has such an option. madshi, would you consider adding something like this in madVR? I thought it would be possible to do this with a post-scaling custom pixel shader but then I remembered a discussion with cyberbeing ... or was it leeperry ... where it was explained that the custom shaders don't have access to the black bars and these are added by madVR at the last possible step before the presentation on screen. ... So that's one of the reasons that I think this belongs to madVR's options ... the other one is the lack of custom shaders support in some players.
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I'm using Windows 8 x64, my GPU is a Intel Graphics HD 4500. I'm using the same setup as my guide, so LAV Video decoder.
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Since I'm a bit late to the testing and feedback I'll only respond to the questions about the options that are still present in madVR
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26th December 2012, 20:07 | #16610 | Link | |
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Does anybody know if there is an option about this somewhere in MPC-HC? madshi, I'm happy that you've found a way to improve the Jinc 3 AR chroma upscaling performance but sadly I still can't use it with all content. For example for 24/25/30 FPS it's working without dropped frames but for 50/60i/p content my GPU is not fast enough (I'm talking about upscaling 720p to 1080p) So I'll be glad when/if you add different profiles for different resolutions (SD/HD 720/HD 1080/4K) you could also support the different framerates as a parameter we the user can select different algorithms for <=30 and >30 for example.
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26th December 2012, 20:57 | #16611 | Link |
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You can give a try to SVP "black bars lighting" function
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Already asked in the past: he said some kind of scaling function will be implemented in future versions, please be patient
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26th December 2012, 21:53 | #16613 | Link |
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with the newer madshi versions, some video files and subtitles look pixellated when I switch to full screen
eg this one.screenshot was taken exactly as it appears on full-screen. On windowed mode image is smooth. happens in both Potplayer and MPC . when I use the internal subtitle engine and not VSfilter, they appear smooth http://www.abload.de/img/test5ckz7.jpg Though it also might have to do with the fact that directx blitter is not supported on my system in certain emulators. Last edited by petran79; 26th December 2012 at 21:56. |
27th December 2012, 00:16 | #16614 | Link |
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Yes, 3DLUTs are able to correct intermediate saturation points. They are able to correct any color-related issues, in fact. You should, however, verify that the software you're using to generate the 3DLUT supports your feature.
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(25% higher rendering times, 6% lower deinterlacing times, and 5% higher GPU load. ) Edit3: Ouch, using 0.85.6.1 with both the "use a separate device for DXVA processing" & "speed up DXVA deinterlacing at the cost of a little chroma blur" setting enabled, resulted in 75% higher avg rendering times and constant dropped delayed frames when deinterlacing! _ Summary of best performance settings for this GPU when deinterlacing 1920x1080i to 60fps and downscaling: use a separate device for presentation: Enabled use a separate device for DXVA processing: Enabled speed up DXVA deinterlacing at the cost of a little chroma blur: Disabled Last edited by cyberbeing; 27th December 2012 at 02:47. |
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27th December 2012, 02:45 | #16618 | Link |
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Thanks pie1394.
So madshi, yes changing the scaling factor causes the artifacts to go away. I was even able to reproduce with a paused image. Increasing or decreasing the width, instantly removes the artifacts, where as making the video shrink or expand vertically (the height) seems to retain the artifacts. I also popped in a DVD which is also 720x480 4x3 aspect ratio and the same artifacts can be seen. So going from the default target rectangle of: 240, 0, 1680, 1080 (artifacts) going to a target rectangle of: 254, 0, 1665, 1080 (no artifacts) going to a target rectangle of: 225, 0, 1693, 1080 (no artifacts)
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direct compute, dithering, error diffusion, madvr, ngu, nnedi3, quality, renderer, scaling, uhd upscaling, upsampling |
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