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Old 16th February 2018, 20:57   #49021  |  Link
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stop trolling please...
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Old 16th February 2018, 20:58   #49022  |  Link
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stop trolling please...
Trolling what? I'm reading the guide and trying to understand. If this is trolling...

We said is useless to deinterlace a progressive. So the opposite is an interlaced source, or a telecine. And as we said, I need IVTC for it, and that's another thing respect to deinterlacing.
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Old 16th February 2018, 21:26   #49023  |  Link
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could you please google these terms?
and no you don't need IVTC but you are just ignoring what another user tell you.
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Old 16th February 2018, 21:55   #49024  |  Link
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could you please google these terms?
and no you don't need IVTC but you are just ignoring what another user tell you.
Who I'm ignoring? I'm simply doing confusion with terms that are extraneous to me
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Old 16th February 2018, 22:20   #49025  |  Link
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I had a problem described here some while ago: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...14#post1792214
With the lastest LAV Decoder everything is fine now (BT709 as well BT2020 content), so great job LAV / MadVr / Doom9 Team!

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Old 16th February 2018, 22:23   #49026  |  Link
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Who I'm ignoring? I'm simply doing confusion with terms that are extraneous to me
sorry but you have to do something on your own.

well you are clearly ignoring this:
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No, it only activates when it needs to. Just leave things at defaults.. Also you'll need profiles to avoid your frame drops with interlaced content if you're playing with settings.
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If your GPU is too slow to render frames fast enough it will drop frames. Deinterlacing requires your GPU to render twice as many frames so it only has half the time to render each one before it starts dropping frames.
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and yet again telecine deinterlancing is not a general reason for frame dropping it'S your rendertiems and setting that your GPU can't handle.
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Old 16th February 2018, 22:45   #49027  |  Link
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sorry but you have to do something on your own.

well you are clearly ignoring this:
I'm not ignoring, I understand what they are saying. Ok, I'm making too much questions, and so I'm going lost in the answers. I'm going to read again about this terms and how these things works, and your answers. And I will try to figure out the differences and the processes these terms have into them.

Sorry if though I was trolling, that not was totally my intention.
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Old 17th February 2018, 11:40   #49028  |  Link
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Is there a media player that supports madVR and can play acestream links?
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Old 17th February 2018, 13:58   #49029  |  Link
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You can't even update VLC with ace player else acestream links don't work. So no, there are no other media players. Anyway, VLC is the best for this kind of streams.

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Old 17th February 2018, 14:17   #49030  |  Link
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@madshi: I think we all agree that the "activate only if it comes for free" RCA sub-option is extremely convenient, another sub-option I'd love to see if any possible please would be "activate only if it doesn't drop frames" for luma quadrupling because I'm never really sure whether I can afford it and those "set and forget" options are wonderful. Just try to force it and if it drops frames, go back to "luma doubling"?

"RCA Very High" looks eye-poping BTW



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Reclock simply likes it "close enough" so you won't notice. It would change the audio speed less if you used a multiple of 23.976 Hz instead of 72 (at least for 24/1.001 fps content)
Playing cinema content in a 23.976Hz multiple means that audio will be 0.1% too slow and yes you can hear the difference when A/B'ing, music will be out of tune for that matter. Only some TV shows are actually meant to be watched at 23.976Hz AFAIK, my point being that 23.976 content is rarely meant to be watched at its native rate

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Old 17th February 2018, 16:03   #49031  |  Link
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Playing cinema content in a 23.976Hz multiple means that audio will be 1% too slow and yes you can hear the difference when A/B'ing
Its 0.1%, actually. I doubt any normal person can hear that, unless they have really trained ears.
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Old 17th February 2018, 16:20   #49032  |  Link
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Is there a media player that supports madVR and can play acestream links?
Yes. MPC-BE can open acestream links in latest versions.
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Old 17th February 2018, 16:24   #49033  |  Link
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Its 0.1%, actually. I doubt any normal person can hear that, unless they have really trained ears.
I imagine you could tell them apart when A/B testing, but you'd never notice anything wrong if you weren't listening to them side by side.
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Old 17th February 2018, 16:28   #49034  |  Link
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Can you work with this for implementing DV in madvr maybe? ^^

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...ormat-v2.0.pdf
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...ormat-v1.1.pdf
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...ormat-v1.1.pdf
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...ormat-v1.1.pdf
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Its 0.1%, actually. I doubt any normal person can hear that, unless they have really trained ears.
Right, anyway music becomes out of tune and you can certainly tell the difference when A/B'ing. It's been shot and is meant to be watched at 24fps, 23.976 is a dodgy legacy from NTSC TV's I believe and there's hardly any genuine 23.976 content out there apart from some TV stuff.
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Old 17th February 2018, 18:08   #49036  |  Link
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Wow, didn't realise madVR was 30 MB these days. First thing I do when I download it is re-compress to 7z so it's 13 MB.
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Old 17th February 2018, 18:19   #49037  |  Link
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Wow, didn't realise madVR was 30 MB these days
Who cares? Might as well be 100MB if PQ keeps improving
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Old 17th February 2018, 18:41   #49038  |  Link
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@Asmodian @huhn @ryrynz I think steakhutzeee's issue is that for some reason the upstream filter is not detecting his PAL DVDs as film material and is outputting an interlaced stream to madVR.

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1. create two PAL profiles in madVR, one for 'PAL video' and one for 'PAL [film/cinema/progressive/whatever name you prefer]', that way you can then configure the first profile to target a frame time of 20 ms and avoid dropped frames when watching video PAL (e.g. DVD bonuses), and configure the second profile to target a frame time of 40 ms for which you can use higher quality scaling.
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if (srcHeight <= 576) and (deintFps < 26) "PAL film"
else if (srcHeight <= 576) "PAL video"
2. You need to check your video decoder settings, and possibly your player, and fiddle with the settings until you see "deinterlacing off (says upstream)", like this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Qu...5RKj2lxJuM5ZR0
If you have some discs where you can't get that result, then as Asmodian said they're probably badly mastered.
If you cannot get that result with any of your PAL DVDs then something is wrong with your decoder/player (for example, with MediaPortal if I play a PAL DVD via the menu, LAV stays in interlaced mode when I start playing the main feature, I have to stop playback and then resume directly from the movie for it to switch to progressive).
If you use LAV Video, 'Deinterlacing Mode' should be on Auto.
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@Asmodian @huhn @ryrynz I think steakhutzeee's issue is that for some reason the upstream filter is not detecting his PAL DVDs as film material and is outputting an interlaced stream to madVR.

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1. create two PAL profiles in madVR, one for 'PAL video' and one for 'PAL [film/cinema/progressive/whatever name you prefer]', that way you can then configure the first profile to target a frame time of 20 ms and avoid dropped frames when watching video PAL (e.g. DVD bonuses), and configure the second profile to target a frame time of 40 ms for which you can use higher quality scaling.
Example:
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if (srcHeight <= 576) and (deintFps < 26) "PAL film"
else if (srcHeight <= 576) "PAL video"
2. You need to check your video decoder settings, and possibly your player, and fiddle with the settings until you see "deinterlacing off (says upstream)", like this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Qu...5RKj2lxJuM5ZR0
If you have some discs where you can't get that result, then as Asmodian said they're probably badly mastered.
If you cannot get that result with any of your PAL DVDs then something is wrong with your decoder/player (for example, with MediaPortal if I play a PAL DVD via the menu, LAV stays in interlaced mode when I start playing the main feature, I have to stop playback and then resume directly from the movie for it to switch to progressive).
If you use LAV Video, 'Deinterlacing Mode' should be on Auto.
Thanks very much for your intervention

At the moment is very difficult to me to put my hands on my dvd and my PC these days because I'm in the middle of moving my house. I'm going to try asap.

Thanks again!
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Old 17th February 2018, 22:34   #49040  |  Link
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Hey. Hope someone can help me. Today I updated k lite codec pack, and when I go full screen bottom bar (seek bar) is the same as in window mode. Before it was just blueish seek bar. It was way better. Is this because of Madvr? Anyone knows how to get it back?
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