madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 2865

oldpainlesskodi · 1st September 2019, 15:31

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Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Oh for the love of...

No development hasn't stopped. He's just been busy getting envy out the door. Once he's back he'll likely be finishing the HDR tone mapping functionality.

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SamuriHL · 1st September 2019, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Betroz

I was just wondering... I mean the man could have changed his mind lately, and decided to stop developement of the regular verson.

My comment wasn't because you asked the status. I was trying to answer that. My oh for the love of comment was for....others.

tp4tissue · 1st September 2019, 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by foozoor

Madshi will not waste his time anymore with directshow and all the Windows mess.
MadVR 1.0 will never be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betroz

Hi guys. Now that Madshi is working with the MadVr Envy project, does anyone here know if development of the normal version of MadVr has stopped?

This is actually very possible, unfortunately.

I think ol' Madshi will release a 1.0 just to round off his learning relationship with classic madvr fans. But, what comes after, understandably capitalism may direct forward decisions.

Betroz · 1st September 2019, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

This is actually very possible, unfortunately.

I think ol' Madshi will release a 1.0 just to round off his learning relationship with classic madvr fans. But, what comes after, understandably capitalism may direct forward decisions.

Thankfully the 0.92.17 version works just fine for my needs

garson · 1st September 2019, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

I think ol' Madshi will release a 1.0 just to round off his learning relationship with classic madvr fans. But, what comes after, understandably capitalism may direct forward decisions.

Or he can start charging for it, some reasonable price (10-20$ or something).
I am sure many would buy it, I know I would.

heiseikiseki · 1st September 2019, 20:53

Does Anyone have tried to use madvr to view 2D contents in the VR? ( using virtual desktop)
because there should be some gpu load for the VR.
I wonder that is it possible for VR+madvr (NGU) for 2D contents and how is the quality.

SamuriHL · 1st September 2019, 20:58

Guys, this kind of speculation is pointless. None of you KNOW anything at all about madshi's future plans. Somewhere in this thread a long time ago he said that madvr will have a commercial version when it hits 1.0. But no one, probably not even madshi, knows when that'll be. He was pretty clear in the HDR beta thread that he has a lot more plans for the HDR tone mapping functionality but that his time was taken up right now trying to get the envy out the door. To sit here and speculate on his future plans based on what YOU feel might happen? Useless. Just be patient and wait and see what happens. AFAIK the Envy's going to show up at Cedia which is in 9 days where the public will get its first look at it. It's likely (and again this is pointless speculation on my part because I've no idea whatsoever) that between now and the end of the year or maybe more, madshi will be hard at work getting the product ready for public launch. Then we'll see what HE says rather than speculating. But starting "madvr development is dead" rumors is total BS and not at all helpful to this community.

okc_smoker · 2nd September 2019, 14:38

I can't imagine what the actual issue is, but it appears that my new AVR doesn't like something about D3D11. I've been dealing with all sorts of headaches related to handshaking and the like, but the one remaining issue is that when D3D11 is enabled in MadVR, bringing up the OSD in MPC-HC breaks something in the chain. My screen will go black and will come back when I close/minimize MPC-HC once or twice and then it will just completely lose the signal until I reboot the HTPC. If I never bring up the OSD it will play fine. Fullscreen Exclusive and Windowed Overlay settings don't seem to make a difference, nor does using DXVA vs D3D11 in the LAV settings. Is this a known issue? Anyone have any idea what the problem is and if it's fixable?

el Filou · 2nd September 2019, 15:18

What OS, GPU, display interface settings?
If not using FSE, the only thing that should happen when displaying the player UI is a presentation switch from full screen windowed to windowed. In theory that shouldn't bring about a display mode change/resync.
Have you checked that GSync/FreeSync isn't active? Is "disable fullscreen optimisation" checked in the player's .exe properties?

mclingo · 2nd September 2019, 17:38

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Originally Posted by okc_smoker

I can't imagine what the actual issue ....

yeah loads of variables here, why dont you update your SIG with your full software / hardware chain.

I agree, feels like a FSE issue coming out of full screen.

Manni · 2nd September 2019, 23:47

Everyone, put your mind at rest. Development of madVR isn't stopped. There will be a V1.0. Madshi is just extremely busy working with Envy at the moment. He'll be back (that was said with my Terminator voice).

SamuriHL · 3rd September 2019, 00:06

But was it upscaled??

Manni · 3rd September 2019, 00:22

No, native 4K, but it was HDR

Alamei · 3rd September 2019, 04:12

My computer was just forced to update to Windows 10 v1903, and ever since that "upgrade", I've been experiencing a momentary stutter (and corresponding presentation glitches logged in MadVR debug) when any controls—seek bar, title bar, etc—pop up over the video in fullscreen non-exclusive mode.

I reset all settings to default for MadVR to rule out a setting-specific glitch, and I ran the tests in both MPC-BE and PotPlayer to rule out a media player bug. Using a different renderer in either player eliminates the issue, as well, so it's something specifically going on with MadVR.

Has anyone else experienced this issue, and, if so, did you find any resolution for it?

ryrynz · 3rd September 2019, 08:58

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Originally Posted by Alamei

Has anyone else experienced this issue, and, if so, did you find any resolution for it?

What GPU? If Nvidia make sure your Power management mode isn't set to Adaptive. Alternatively try reloading a fresh version of the GPU driver from the manufacturers website.

okc_smoker · 3rd September 2019, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by el Filou

What OS, GPU, display interface settings?
If not using FSE, the only thing that should happen when displaying the player UI is a presentation switch from full screen windowed to windowed. In theory that shouldn't bring about a display mode change/resync.
Have you checked that GSync/FreeSync isn't active? Is "disable fullscreen optimisation" checked in the player's .exe properties?

My bad. I've updated my sig with my hardware. The HTPC is connected to the AVR, which passes the video to the TV (no processing/upscaling, no ARC/CEC). Both connections are using Monoprice certified cables.

I currently have my GPU set to RGB Full @ 10-bit. FreeSync disabled. I don't see anything in the MPC-HC options about fullscreen optimization ("Use auto-change fullscreen monitor mode" is disabled).

Edit: My sig isn't showing up for me... not sure why. Here's my equipment:

Vizio P75-F1 | Denon AVR-S740H | Dayton B652-AIR/C452-AIR L/C/R | Dayton B452 Surrounds | Dayton Sub-1200 | HTPC (Win10, Radeon RX 560, Kodi, MPC-HC/MadVR) | PS4 | XBone

el Filou · 4th September 2019, 01:03

You need to right-click the app .exe or shortcut and go to the properties, and the option is in the Compatibility tab.

I am not 100% sure because I'm not using 10-bit myself but if IIRC with D3D11, fullscreen windowed can use 10-bit which would explain that it's not happening with D3D9. Maybe bringing up the OSD changes the bit depth and causes the GPU to change something else? Someone with an AMD card and a 4K TV using 10-bit should chime in.

seiyafan · 4th September 2019, 01:41

Got my 5700 today, at first it was dropping frame when rendering time was around 10-15ms, then I enabled fullscreen exclusive mode, problem solved. =)

tp4tissue · 4th September 2019, 01:46

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Originally Posted by seiyafan

Got my 5700 today, at first it was dropping frame when rendering time was around 10-15ms, then I enabled fullscreen exclusive mode, problem solved. =)

Yea, and they don't have an issue with banding on desktop calibrations either because they enable dithering.

Nvidia's color management on Win 10 is currently borked.

Dumping NV for ATI when something faster than the XT comes out.

seiyafan · 4th September 2019, 01:58

what should I do with "GPU scaling", leave it off? Any other options (in default settings) I should be aware of?

1st September 2019, 20:53	#57286 \| Link
heiseikiseki Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 37	Vr Does Anyone have tried to use madvr to view 2D contents in the VR? ( using virtual desktop) because there should be some gpu load for the VR. I wonder that is it possible for VR+madvr (NGU) for 2D contents and how is the quality.

1st September 2019, 20:58	#57287 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,328	Guys, this kind of speculation is pointless. None of you KNOW anything at all about madshi's future plans. Somewhere in this thread a long time ago he said that madvr will have a commercial version when it hits 1.0. But no one, probably not even madshi, knows when that'll be. He was pretty clear in the HDR beta thread that he has a lot more plans for the HDR tone mapping functionality but that his time was taken up right now trying to get the envy out the door. To sit here and speculate on his future plans based on what YOU feel might happen? Useless. Just be patient and wait and see what happens. AFAIK the Envy's going to show up at Cedia which is in 9 days where the public will get its first look at it. It's likely (and again this is pointless speculation on my part because I've no idea whatsoever) that between now and the end of the year or maybe more, madshi will be hard at work getting the product ready for public launch. Then we'll see what HE says rather than speculating. But starting "madvr development is dead" rumors is total BS and not at all helpful to this community. __________________ HTPC: Windows 10, I9 9900k, RTX 2070 Founder's Edition, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG C8 65" OLED

2nd September 2019, 14:38	#57288 \| Link
okc_smoker Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 54	I can't imagine what the actual issue is, but it appears that my new AVR doesn't like something about D3D11. I've been dealing with all sorts of headaches related to handshaking and the like, but the one remaining issue is that when D3D11 is enabled in MadVR, bringing up the OSD in MPC-HC breaks something in the chain. My screen will go black and will come back when I close/minimize MPC-HC once or twice and then it will just completely lose the signal until I reboot the HTPC. If I never bring up the OSD it will play fine. Fullscreen Exclusive and Windowed Overlay settings don't seem to make a difference, nor does using DXVA vs D3D11 in the LAV settings. Is this a known issue? Anyone have any idea what the problem is and if it's fixable? __________________ Vizio P75-F1 \| Denon AVR-S740H \| Dayton B652-AIR/C452-AIR L/C/R \| Boston VRS Micro Surrounds \| Dayton Sub-1200 \| HTPC (Win10, Red Dragon RX 5700 XT, Kodi, MPC-HC/MadVR) \| PS4 \| XBone

2nd September 2019, 15:18	#57289 \| Link
el Filou Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 548	What OS, GPU, display interface settings? If not using FSE, the only thing that should happen when displaying the player UI is a presentation switch from full screen windowed to windowed. In theory that shouldn't bring about a display mode change/resync. Have you checked that GSync/FreeSync isn't active? Is "disable fullscreen optimisation" checked in the player's .exe properties? __________________ HTPC: Windows 10 1809, MediaPortal 1, LAV Filters, ReClock, madVR. DVB-C TV, Panasonic GT60, 6.0 speakers Denon 2310, Core 2 Duo E7400, GeForce 1050 Ti

2nd September 2019, 23:47	#57291 \| Link
Manni Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 733	Everyone, put your mind at rest. Development of madVR isn't stopped. There will be a V1.0. Madshi is just extremely busy working with Envy at the moment. He'll be back (that was said with my Terminator voice). __________________ Win10 Pro x64 b1903 MCE i7 3770K@4.0Ghz 16Gb@2.18Ghz EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 11Gb@2GHz 436.48 RGB Full 8bits MPC-BE/LAV/MadVR/jRiver/MyMovies V5.25 Denon X8500H>HD Fury Maestro>JVC RS2000

3rd September 2019, 00:06	#57292 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,328	But was it upscaled?? __________________ HTPC: Windows 10, I9 9900k, RTX 2070 Founder's Edition, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG C8 65" OLED

3rd September 2019, 00:22	#57293 \| Link
Manni Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 733	No, native 4K, but it was HDR __________________ Win10 Pro x64 b1903 MCE i7 3770K@4.0Ghz 16Gb@2.18Ghz EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 11Gb@2GHz 436.48 RGB Full 8bits MPC-BE/LAV/MadVR/jRiver/MyMovies V5.25 Denon X8500H>HD Fury Maestro>JVC RS2000

3rd September 2019, 04:12	#57294 \| Link
Alamei Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 7	Fullscreen stuttering with Windows 10 v1903? My computer was just forced to update to Windows 10 v1903, and ever since that "upgrade", I've been experiencing a momentary stutter (and corresponding presentation glitches logged in MadVR debug) when any controls—seek bar, title bar, etc—pop up over the video in fullscreen non-exclusive mode. I reset all settings to default for MadVR to rule out a setting-specific glitch, and I ran the tests in both MPC-BE and PotPlayer to rule out a media player bug. Using a different renderer in either player eliminates the issue, as well, so it's something specifically going on with MadVR. Has anyone else experienced this issue, and, if so, did you find any resolution for it?

4th September 2019, 01:03	#57297 \| Link
el Filou Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 548	You need to right-click the app .exe or shortcut and go to the properties, and the option is in the Compatibility tab. I am not 100% sure because I'm not using 10-bit myself but if IIRC with D3D11, fullscreen windowed can use 10-bit which would explain that it's not happening with D3D9. Maybe bringing up the OSD changes the bit depth and causes the GPU to change something else? Someone with an AMD card and a 4K TV using 10-bit should chime in. __________________ HTPC: Windows 10 1809, MediaPortal 1, LAV Filters, ReClock, madVR. DVB-C TV, Panasonic GT60, 6.0 speakers Denon 2310, Core 2 Duo E7400, GeForce 1050 Ti

4th September 2019, 01:41	#57298 \| Link
seiyafan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 161	Got my 5700 today, at first it was dropping frame when rendering time was around 10-15ms, then I enabled fullscreen exclusive mode, problem solved. =)

4th September 2019, 01:58	#57300 \| Link
seiyafan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 161	what should I do with "GPU scaling", leave it off? Any other options (in default settings) I should be aware of?

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