madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[madjock]

Originally Posted by Charky

I had the same issue.

I toggled HDR in the Win 10 display options.

Unsure if it is madVR or my TV, but I have had to reset my TV settings to get the HDR to toggle back on. Even did a full 8.1 install then 10 again.

Was not till I reset the TV that it worked again, no idea if its a driver issue or the TV, just so many variables it is hard to pinpoint, especially when it can work one day and then you have to mess with madVR another day for some reason.

At least if the TV is back at default you can work backwards, bloody annoying as I wish I had done that first.

[tp4tissue]

Just tried,

Safemode,

DDU,

adrenaline 18.5.1 (older driver),

Displaycal 3.3.5.0 (old dispcal),


Madtpg still will not kick into HDR, even launched at fullscreen

Again, Regular madvr AMD HDR playback works fine.

[madjock]

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

Just tried,

Safemode,

DDU,

adrenaline 18.5.1 (older driver),

Displaycal 3.3.5.0 (old dispcal),


Madtpg still will not kick into HDR, even launched at fullscreen

Again, Regular madvr AMD HDR playback works fine.

I have the opposite in a way, it enables with a 4K HDR film in KODI/Dsplayer and does not go off till I come out of KODI, seems to be new things every day

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by madjock

I have the opposite in a way, it enables with a 4K HDR film in KODI/Dsplayer and does not go off till I come out of KODI, seems to be new things every day

Does your player render through OS-HDR or AMDHDR or NV HDR.

Ctrl-J, top left.

I think I read that if something goes through OSHDR, it can not auto pop-out


I'm on MPCHC, so it renders through AMD HDR.

[madjock]

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

Does your player render through OS-HDR or AMDHDR or NV HDR.

Ctrl-J, top left.

I think I read that if something goes through OSHDR, it can not auto pop-out


I'm on MPCHC, so it renders through AMD HDR.

All good on the desktop side with MPC-HC and MPC-BE, I use NV HDR and its all good, just recently started in KODI no ideas why, but its better than your scenario as at least it works for the most part.

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

Again, Regular madvr AMD HDR playback works fine.

Does it go into HDR in a windowed mode? In the past, on Nvidia, I was able to use a video playing in MPC-HC to trigger HDR as a workaround for madTPG not triggering HDR.

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

Does it go into HDR in a windowed mode? In the past, on Nvidia, I was able to use a video playing in MPC-HC to trigger HDR as a workaround for madTPG not triggering HDR.

On my ATI card, it will only HDR on fullscreen for playback, madtpg doesn't HDR at all.

My nvidia works fine, hdr triggers on windowed , but unnecessary because the madtpg will trigger nv hdr as well.

[XMonarchY]

Originally Posted by madjock

I can select 12 bit in NVCP panel in 1809 but obviously cant get it to stick in a custom res in the NVCP.

I am using 416.34.

Yeah, same, I really hope madshi still looks at these forums and maybe next madVR version will have custom display mode with color bit depth settings.

[albur]

I'm close to give up with madvr, i have my computer and when i make a change in madvr i can see the diference in mpc hc paused. When i do the same in my htpc it does nothing with the same configuration, madvr is running because hdr to sdr is working

What can be the issue? The only difference is that one has monitor and the other a projector and the pc has a amd and the htpc a nvidida

[Warner306]

There probably is a difference, but you can't perceive it on that display. What setting are you referring to?

[ryrynz]

Yeah if you check the OSD, you can see if things are changing and what they're changing to. If you can't see differences then it's down to your display/viewing distance.
I would hope you know what to look for but in case you don't, luma scalers and sharpeners make the most difference when looking at SDR content.

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by ryrynz

Yeah if you check the OSD, you can see if things are changing and what they're changing to. If you can't see differences then it's down to your display/viewing distance.
I would hope you know what to look for but in case you don't, luma scalers and sharpeners make the most difference when looking at SDR content.

At 2 meters luma scaler might not even be that obvious if the material resolution is high..

Sharpen is very obvious..

Chroma is very difficult to discern at distance.


If one's adamant about seeing what's happening, you can Zoom-in and the difference will be very obvious.

[alisaeed]

Hi, when I try to create custom resolution this error shows

how can I fix that?

[albur]

Originally Posted by Warner306

There probably is a difference, but you can't perceive it on that display. What setting are you referring to?

Where i see differences is in image enhancements for example, all on and all off but in the htpc i don't see it

[Charky]

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

On my ATI card, it will only HDR on fullscreen for playback, madtpg doesn't HDR at all.

My nvidia works fine, hdr triggers on windowed , but unnecessary because the madtpg will trigger nv hdr as well.

I don't get it. Why don't you manually activate HDR in Win 10 display options, just for the need of calibrating ? When it is done, you can always go back to normal behavior of triggering HDR With regular madvr playback.

[LigH]

Originally Posted by alisaeed

Hi, when I try to create custom resolution this error shows

how can I fix that?

Please quote the error as text (often you can press Ctrl+C in a dialog), or upload the picture to an external image hoster (frupic, tinypic, imgur, ...). Approval of attachments by a moderator often takes a long time here.

[tp4tissue]

Originally Posted by Charky

I don't get it. Why don't you manually activate HDR in Win 10 display options, just for the need of calibrating ? When it is done, you can always go back to normal behavior of triggering HDR With regular madvr playback.

Triggering HDR via windows goes through OS-HDR , I recall that's a different render path vs AMD-HDR

The calibration results probably wouldn't be accurate because it's a different render path ?

I'm not sure, but that's how I assume it works.

[Warner306]

Originally Posted by albur

Where i see differences is in image enhancements for example, all on and all off but in the htpc i don't see it

I would expect to see some difference with image enhancements. There is likely some type of change if the rendering times in the OSD are increasing when any of the image enhancements are checked. This would imply the shader is active.

Try checking a few of the image enhancements at the same time and set them to a high value. I would also expect to see an immediate change, but it can be hard for your brain to adjust by simply changing a setting and looking at the screen for an immediate change. It is often better to watch some familiar content for a period of time, and then change the settings once more. Watching the display for an extended period makes it easier to determine if something has changed from the settings you were accustomed to previously. Your brain sometimes needs time to adjust. Display or color calibration can be like that.

highlight recovery strength in HDR -> SDR tone mapping is another example of this. Some people enable it and switch from low to are you nuts!? during playback and claim to see no difference. If you watched some content for a prolonged period of time, the difference between these two values can be dramatic.

[Warner306]

Originally Posted by tp4tissue

Triggering HDR via windows goes through OS-HDR , I recall that's a different render path vs AMD-HDR

The calibration results probably wouldn't be accurate because it's a different render path ?

I'm not sure, but that's how I assume it works.

It isn't known for certain if the two approaches produce identical results because the output of Windows HDR is unknown, but in theory, the two should be the same if Windows sends the same HDR metadata to the display. There would have to be a good/flawed reason for Windows to send different metadata.

[alisaeed]

Originally Posted by LigH

Please quote the error as text (often you can press Ctrl+C in a dialog), or upload the picture to an external image hoster (frupic, tinypic, imgur, ...). Approval of attachments by a moderator often takes a long time here.

https://i.imgur.com/Jrl6cst.png