LAV Filters - DirectShow Media Splitter and Decoders

[Sarasa]

Don't use the "375.86 WHQL" they have a bug
Low memory clocks on certain factory-overclocked Pascal cards.

use the new one "375.95 Hotfix"
Can be found here > http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4260

[VictorLS]

Originally Posted by clsid

VP9 Profile 2 does not fall back to software decoding.

Redownload and install patched LAV Filters https://yadi.sk/d/M5KOnw9YyoQWo (10MB)
Aleksoid1978 said VP9 Profile 2 (and other video that CUVID can not accelerate) must fall to software decoding now.

[kathykit]

Originally Posted by Sarasa

Don't use the "375.86 WHQL" they have a bug
Low memory clocks on certain factory-overclocked Pascal cards.

use the new one "375.95 Hotfix"
Can be found here >

back drop
I am just try download that, but my computer just warn me.
maybe thats the reason.

[clsid]

Originally Posted by VictorLS

Redownload and install patched LAV Filters https://yadi.sk/d/M5KOnw9YyoQWo (10MB)
Aleksoid1978 said VP9 Profile 2 (and other video that CUVID can not accelerate) must fall to software decoding now.

VP9 fallback works now. Do you have the patch too?
Hevc10 looks like this: pic

[nussman]

I think Aleksoid1978 should explain this patch here.

[VictorLS]

Originally Posted by clsid

VP9 fallback works now.

Yes, in WinXP too.

Originally Posted by clsid

Do you have the patch too?

I've asked Aleksoid1978's permission to give link.

Originally Posted by clsid

Hevc10 looks like this

Upload your screenshot on other site, please. For example as me here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...32#post1785832

[Aleksoid1978]

Here is a patch - https://yadi.sk/d/laQCuqFAyso7D

[LigH]

Originally Posted by VictorLS

Upload your screenshot on other site, please.

I mirrored it there.

[VictorLS]

Originally Posted by LigH

I mirrored it

Thanks

[VictorLS]

I've formated C: and installed there Windows 10 Anniversary Update 1607 build 14393 Enterprise x64 from 14393.0.160715-1616.rs1_release_CLIENTENTERPRISE_VOL_x64fre_ru-ru.efr.iso from 4GB flash then install update windows10.0-kb3200970-x64.msu and 375.95-desktop-notebook-win10-64bit-international.hf.exe
I was twice well surprised:
1. Win10's Movies&TV plays many (LAV Splitter opens much more my SAT recordings) of h265 8 and 10bit and VP9 with DXVA2 (because I see artifacts in h264 RussiaHD.ts http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...23#post1784923) without installing any filter.
2. I not see artifacts with CUVID in Aleksoid1978's patched filters (I did regsvr32 them - not install from his exe) in RussiaHD.ts and other such files as in Win7 happens.
I haven't seen any unexpected playback issues (including clsid's http://frupic.frubar.net/shots/34634.png) while playing more than 200 h265 4K files with CUVID (many people here told CUVID not work in Win10 at all - it isn't true in my experiment).
But Win10 is still bad for me:
1. It hangs up in a couple of second after booting begins. I have to press Reset button of my PC - second boot successful but cause HDD check in a future;
2. Not work my old radioremote control ATI Remote Wonder (may be someone knows how to?);
3. Not work my favorite version of DVBViewer;
4. Not friendly interface (for example do Ctrl+Shift instead of Alt+Sift to switch languages is some difficult) and many many other causes...
PS. With CUVID hardware decoding in Win7 I can use again my favorite KMPlayer 4.0.7.1 by 7sh3 without advertising and not send what file is played to someone. IMHO it best with ATI Remote Wonder and it has almost ideal interface (but in KMP I can not set native size of 4K video to see 1/4 of square on my FullHD monitor as MPC-HC can), because DXVA2 (copy-back) glitches sometimes and LAV's DXVA2 (native) not work in KMP at all.

[gpower2]

Originally Posted by VictorLS

1. It hangs up in a couple of second after booting begins. I have to press Reset button of my PC - second boot successful but cause HDD check in a future;

Usually a sign that one of the disks is failing, or some other external device is blocking the boot sequence (I've seen that to a PC that had 2 keyboards connected at the same time, one in PS2 and one in USB).
You should check with as little peripherals as you can in order to pinpoint the exact problem in your system.

Originally Posted by VictorLS

2. Not work my old radioremote control ATI Remote Wonder (may be someone knows how to?);

You should check the Hardware IDs at the Details tab from Device Manager for the remote control device and check Google in case there is a driver for Windows 10 for that specific device.

Originally Posted by VictorLS

3. Not work my favorite version of DVBViewer;

You should check ProgDVB, it has frequent updates and it is written by a Russian developer, so you could have a lot of feedback for your local channels

Originally Posted by VictorLS

4. Not friendly interface (for example do Ctrl+Shift instead of Alt+Sift to switch languages is some difficult) and many many other causes...

Uhm, you can change that key combination from the control panel???

Originally Posted by VictorLS

PS. With CUVID hardware decoding in Win7 I can use again my favorite KMPlayer 4.0.7.1 by 7sh3 without advertising and not send what file is played to someone - imho it best with ATI Remote Wonder and it has almost ideal interface (but in KMP I can not set native size of 4K video to see 1/4 on my FullHD monitor as MPC-HC can), because DXVA2 (copy-back) glitches sometimes and LAV's DXVA2 (native) not work in KMP at all.

I find latest nightly build of MPC-HC to be exceptionally good with every video I feed to it (having disabled all the internal splitters and decoders in order to use latest ofiicial LAV), even better that MPC-BE or other commonly used players out there.

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by VictorLS

2. I not see artifacts with CUVID in Aleksoid1978's patched filters (I did regsvr32 them - not install from his exe) in RussiaHD.ts and other such files as in Win7 happens.

Thats because the HQ DXVA mode doesn't work on Windows 10, and it falls back to the CUDA mode - which is just one problem CUVID has on Windows 10, the other one is that it can deadlock when OpenCL is used, ie. by madVR, which is really quite an annoying bug.

[VictorLS]

Originally Posted by gpower2

check with as little peripherals as you can in order to pinpoint the exact problem in your system.

I'll check.

Originally Posted by gpower2

check Google in case there is a driver for Windows 10 for that specific device.

Even if I will find working driver, there must be program for ATI Remote Wonder. Even Win8x64 last official version worked not stable.

Originally Posted by gpower2

check ProgDVB

I respect Prog (for example he implement Maincocept HEVC Video Decoder support instead of nevcairiel, but ProgDVB on .NET and works very slowly compared with DVBViewer. Although ProgDVB has some advantages: for example, it can receive multistream transponders.

Originally Posted by gpower2

for your local channels

Artifacts is a global problem of DXVA on nVIDIA and AMD videocards in Win7 as minimum, but nVIDIA has CUVID to decide problem instead of AMD. nVIDIA's Level2 support hasn't answered me about artifacts yet )

Originally Posted by gpower2

you can change that key combination from the control panel???

I did it in one minute but it is so deep compared with Win7 ad XP.

Originally Posted by gpower2

I find latest nightly build of MPC-HC to be exceptionally good with every video I feed to it, even better that MPC-BE or other commonly used players out there.

I believe but what about remote control and user friendly interface?

Originally Posted by gpower2

having disabled all the internal splitters and decoders in order to use latest ofiicial LAV

Why so difficult - I just replace all 12 files in MPC-HC\LAVFilters(64) folder
But I use Aleksoid1978's patched filters.

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

Thats because the HQ DXVA mode doesn't work on Windows 10, and it falls back to the CUDA mode - which is just one problem CUVID has on Windows 10

Thanks for explanation.

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

the other one is that it can deadlock when OpenCL is used, ie. by madVR, which is really quite an annoying bug.

I haven't tried MadVR in Win10 yet. I hope will be time for that before I uninstall Win10 )

[TheShadowRunner]

nev, should I report the font / temp file (missing characters bug) on the GitHub project page?

[gpower2]

Originally Posted by VictorLS

Even if I will find working driver, there must be program for ATI Remote Wonder. Even Win8x64 last official version worked not stable.

You could use a generic remote control application that lets you assign specific application macros.

Originally Posted by VictorLS

I respect Prog (for example he implement Maincocept HEVC Video Decoder support instead of nevcairiel, but ProgDVB on .NET and works very slowly compared with DVBViewer. Although ProgDVB has some advantages: for example, it can receive multistream transponders.

Well ProgDVB uses ngen during installation, so .NET code gets compiled in native code, so it's not really a matter of .NET vs native code.

Originally Posted by VictorLS

I believe but what about remote control and user friendly interface?

User friendliness is quite subjective. As for the remote control capabilities, I strongly suggest to use a generic application.

Originally Posted by VictorLS

Why so difficult - I just replace all 12 files in MPC-HC\LAVFilters(64) folder

It's not wise to replace those files, since a simple API change in the filters can crash the whole player.

[VictorLS]

Originally Posted by gpower2

You could use a generic remote control application that lets you assign specific application macros.

I can but better simply stay on quite stable WinXP )
I don't want waste much time for this.

Originally Posted by gpower2

Well ProgDVB uses ngen during installation, so .NET code gets compiled in native code, so it's not really a matter of .NET vs native code.

Thanks, I didn't know. By the way for mulistream transponders I use old good fast (but not stable) AltDVB with LAV Video (CUVID acceleration) and VMR7 both in WinXP and in Win7.

Originally Posted by gpower2

User friendliness is quite subjective.

I agree. User friendliness of KMP the best on my own. But I have to mention KMP works with filters and renderers worse then MPC-HC(BE) or POT Player.

Originally Posted by gpower2

As for the remote control capabilities, I strongly suggest to use a generic application.

If you want help me to set up generic application to remote control MPC-HC please write PM - it's offtop here.

Originally Posted by gpower2

It's not wise to replace those files, since a simple API change in the filters can crash the whole player.

Theoretically you are right, but practically I've never seen any problem both in KMP and in MPC-HC.

PS. I tried disconnect all connected to my PC devices excluding SAT-card but including keyboard and mouse and second HDD - Win10 still hangs up (

[Nintendo Maniac 64]

Originally Posted by VictorLS

Do your laptop not support 1080p hardware acceleration? Can you provide hardware (model of laptop, CPU, GPU if present) and software (OS and player with renderer you use or tried) configuration? Although in any case you have to manually switch from None to DXVA2 in settings of LAV Video Decoder depending on resolution of played video and on battery/on electrical line.
PS. You are lucky - you have this possibility - many people of the world who see artifacts with DXVA can not switch it of in LAV Video Decoder and they don't know about LAV CUVID Decoder. They have to switch off hardware acceleration because they have no choice (but sometimes with weak CPU it is impossible to decode smooth 1080p without hardware acceleration). I hope for them that nevcairiel will add possibility to switch off DXVA Processing in LAV Video Decoder.

I did some quick-and-dirty testing and I think "None" actually doesn't hit my CPU anywhere near as hard as I thought it would; I think I'm too used to web browsers which not only usually have less efficient decoders but also can have fancy-pants javascript-heavy video players (hello twitch.tv!).

Not only that, but because it's an older laptop that uses discrete graphics rather than integrated, it seems that doing GPU decoding (DXVA or CUVID) pulls more power than one would expect as well.


I'll try using "None" for the next few weeks or so and see how it goes.

[CruNcher]

Depends on the Decoder sure the Discrete Decoder can drain the battery very fast Quicksync i guess you refer to will be always more energy efficient, then going the discrete path of AMD or Nvidia.

And yes depending on the Decoder the CPU can be in certain Scenarios more efficient as well, for example in a Hybrid Decoding Scenario you mostly allways better of using the CPU decoder for the Web

But of course if the other side doesn't care about efficiency in their Render Stack that will go to hell pretty fast

[har3inger]

I have a quick question about matrix encoding in LAV audio for 5.1-> 2.0. If I select either dolby pro logic I or II, the audio center moves to the right when played back regularly on headphones. Is this intended behavior? More specifically, the center channel stays center after downmixing, but the music from the other channels all moves to the right.

[nevcairiel]

Matrix encoding is only useful if you have a decoder on the other end that understands these matrix encodings. For playing on a stereo system or headphones, use regular downmixing.