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Old 29th July 2018, 00:25   #51881  |  Link
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That sucks, for the first time I was able to get my TV to recognize 23p as 24hz if I use CVT CRT timings.

But giving up on 12bpc it's not a good trade off.

One idea would be actually change the timing for 23hz based on the findings with MadVR and put those on CRU (custom resolution utility).
But I don't know how to modify timings of specific hertz like 3840x2160.

EDIT: Got 12bpc to stick after a reboot.
Used CRU with the timings I wanted, added as a detailed resolution, moved it up to be together 3840x2160@60 and after rebooting I selected 23hz, changed to 12bpc and the 24hz (23.976) I had as 12bpc.
Rebooted once more, changed resolutions and still 12bpc.

So, yay!

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Old 29th July 2018, 10:47   #51882  |  Link
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@franketto other things to try:
- change LAV hardware decoding mode (DXVA2/D3D11) or madVR rendering mode (D3D9/D3D11, Full Screen Exclusive/Windowed)
- temporarily remove your 3DLUT from madVR
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Old 29th July 2018, 12:10   #51883  |  Link
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@franketto other things to try:
- change LAV hardware decoding mode (DXVA2/D3D11) or madVR rendering mode (D3D9/D3D11, Full Screen Exclusive/Windowed)
- temporarily remove your 3DLUT from madVR
Thank you, I'll try.
I also installed the latest Intel drivers.
I have not installed LAV: should I install it?
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Old 29th July 2018, 12:57   #51884  |  Link
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You should open your own thread, as you were told. Not everybody is interested in your problem which could result in 50 other posts.
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Old 29th July 2018, 14:33   #51885  |  Link
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My render queue fails to fill up and sometimes I get frame drops (even though OSD reports low render times), however in FSE mode there are no frame drops and queue is full (although it reports significantly higher render time).
I heard this is an issue with Windows 10 version 1803. I tried searching this thread but failed to find any fix. Perhaps anyone remembers what it is, assuming it exists?

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Old 29th July 2018, 17:07   #51886  |  Link
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its weird i just noticed dx11 exclusive fullscreen no longer works here.
OSD says dx11 windowed despite the setting to exclusive.
and i did not change a thing, no new software or settings, or drivers.
must of been another shitty win10 weekly update or something.

does anyone else have this issue?

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Old 29th July 2018, 17:51   #51887  |  Link
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My render queue fails to fill up and sometimes I get frame drops (even though OSD reports low render times), however in FSE mode there are no frame drops and queue is full (although it reports significantly higher render time).
I heard this is an issue with Windows 10 version 1803. I tried searching this thread but failed to find any fix. Perhaps anyone remembers what it is, assuming it exists?
The rendering times are artificially low in windowed mode after the Windows 1803 update. Only FSE is reporting the correct rendering times. A couple have had trouble filling the present queue when using NGU.
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Old 29th July 2018, 17:53   #51888  |  Link
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its weird i just noticed dx11 exclusive fullscreen no longer works here.
OSD says dx11 windowed despite the setting to exclusive.
and i did not change a thing, no new software or settings, or drivers.
must of been another shitty win10 weekly update or something.

does anyone else have this issue?
It is not uncommon. It happens all the time. Not all systems work well with fullscreen exclusive mode in Windows 10. Try another media player. Updates and drivers can change things.
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Old 29th July 2018, 18:55   #51889  |  Link
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It is not uncommon. It happens all the time. Not all systems work well with fullscreen exclusive mode in Windows 10. Try another media player. Updates and drivers can change things.
just rebooted pc and problem went away, at least for now -)
next time will try to just restart gpu driver with devmanview.
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Old 29th July 2018, 23:48   #51890  |  Link
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Please don't quote in entirety a post directly above yours it's pointless.
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Old 30th July 2018, 07:54   #51891  |  Link
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To be honest this whole thread seems to be pointless now.

As some of us are aware there is a thread in the AVS forum with a group working with test builds and Projectors.

For me personally, it now looks a little clique who are obsessed about certain frames of certain films and it seems to be stuck in a loop.

Nothing is spoke about in this thread other than the usual culprits of 23.976 or trying to get 12 Bit.

Just my thoughts obviously, but it seems to have gone quite stale.
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Old 30th July 2018, 08:28   #51892  |  Link
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I agree; "advanced" issues with HDR and HBD and frame rate fine tuning, affecting only a part of the users, would have deserved a separate thread a lot earlier. Almost 52,000 replies now...
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Old 30th July 2018, 12:55   #51893  |  Link
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Please don't quote in entirety a post directly above yours it's pointless.
good catch lil man, and welcome to doom9 forum!

i checked CP menu again and there doesnt seem to be an option to be notified if someone quoted your post. its either notify of all replies or dont notify at all. perhaps webmaster could consider to do something about it. in most other forums quoting is a way to attract the quoted user's attention by this specific kind of event.

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dont push your luck though with this sort of trolling. not everyone around here is as open-minded and forgiving as me.
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Old 30th July 2018, 12:58   #51894  |  Link
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Ain't trolling bro, I suggest you read up on what that actually is and understand how it easily doesn't apply here in particular this situation.
Nobody needs to be notified, everyone here is browing this forum on a near daily anyway.. so don't play that card.
It's a terrible waste of space and on other forums mods will tend to delete such posts.. use your head, it's not smart.
Maybe I should quote your entire post just so you know I'm talking to you.

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Just my thoughts obviously, but it seems to have gone quite stale.
Yeah, it's turned towards trouble shooting mostly. The software is quite mature and the development talk is on AVS right now.

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Old 30th July 2018, 13:07   #51895  |  Link
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chaps, , by all means quote but if its quite a long post just delete out the main body of text, this way the quoted knows they are the target of the response and the thread doesnt get junked up.
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dont push your luck though with this sort of trolling. not everyone around here is as open-minded and forgiving as me.
It really is quite pointless here, there aren't any "you have been quoted" notifications or anything. If you are replying to the last post please just start typing in the quick reply without hitting quote. It really is more pleasant and less redundant to read.

If you want to type inline replies to individual points feel free to quote those points but there is no need to quote entire posts if you are replying to them as a whole (especially annoying when there are images in the quoted post).

I am not sure why you responded to this simple request with such hostility.

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I agree; "advanced" issues with HDR and HBD and frame rate fine tuning, affecting only a part of the users, would have deserved a separate thread a lot earlier.
What should we be discussing in this thread? This is supposed to be madVR development and issues, what is there to figure out except HDR, custom resolutions, and high bit depth support? What topic is the discussion around these issues obscuring?

I am not opposed to a seperate thread for HDR, custom resolutions, and high bit depth support, if people would use it, but it doesn't seem off topic here either.
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Old 30th July 2018, 23:34   #51897  |  Link
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We should keep it all in this thread, so madshi can find us whenever he comes back.
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Old 31st July 2018, 04:13   #51898  |  Link
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I am not opposed to a seperate thread for HDR, custom resolutions, and high bit depth support, if people would use it, but it doesn't seem off topic here either.
This thread has always been covering all manner of topics not directly related to MadVR usage, there's just not really much in the way of discussion outside of issues during MadVR down time to keep many interested. We've covered so much over the years, no need to trend old ground until new paths are laid, things are okay as they are IMO.

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Old 31st July 2018, 08:57   #51899  |  Link
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A new HDR thread would not be much of a success I think.

Ironically it is the main use for me for madVR, but everyone either said it is a work in progress, and to be honest since there are so many variables with nit ratings of different films, displays, equipment and the likes, they are very hard questions to answer.

One has only to look at the AVS thread to see there may never be a good outcome or rather a use this for all films, and even with it now going to a 3 option scenario, there are still issues, so I actually think I was better off being more ignorant, as like them I seem to think things look off sometimes, or wonder what colours I should be seeing, when I never thought too much about it before.
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Old 31st July 2018, 09:20   #51900  |  Link
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Having specific threads for let's say development, hdr, 12 bit, known issues, ... would make finding an answer a lot easier, especially if there were a faq or table of content with links in the first posts. It wouldn't solve everything, because there are always people that don't bother to read even one post above and maintaining those threads would also be more work, but for most it would probably be helpful.
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