New minor release of Decomb

Guest · 31st October 2002, 14:52

A new release is available at my web site.

It gives a new Telecide() pattern guidance mode (guide=3) for 25fps to 30fps telecining, as requested by 'manono', and fixes a small bug in default parameter override of the guide parameter.

Rhaegar Targaryen · 4th November 2002, 01:41

If we use this new "guide=3" parameter in Telecide, what should the accompanying Decimate paramters be? "Decimate(cycle=6)"?

I assume that if we are dealing with a NTSC 30fps source that we want to reverse back to its PAL 25fps state (if such video exists) then, "cycle=6" is the way to go. Please confirm that this would be correct usage of the new guidance mode.

manono · 4th November 2002, 04:16

Hi-

Everything you said was correct. It's for use with 25fps PAL sources that have been telecined to 30fps NTSC. And such material is definitely out there. It isn't common, but I've seen probably half a dozen such DVDs in the past that could have benefited from it, and used Telecide(Guide=3).Decimate(Cycle=6) successfully on a couple of them so far, with better results than before.

Rhaegar Targaryen · 4th November 2002, 22:09

Thx for the reply.

I'm working with such a DVD now. Early results (with the line you just posted, basically) seem somewhat satisfactory, but sometimes the movements of characters on the screen seem a bit off, i.e. there is room for improvement (in the "NTSC->PAL reversal process").

My question is, do you think any of the other Decomb options could help in this regard?

Currently I'm trying: reverse=true in Telecide
and
mode=2 in Decimate

To see if either of those can help in this process.

int 21h · 5th November 2002, 19:40

OT but, will we see Decomb for YV12 anytime soon?

Rhaegar Targaryen · 5th November 2002, 21:38

I sure hope so too. Can't wait to see the performance increase in DVD to XviD encoding entirely at the native DVD colorspace.

Mango Madness · 7th November 2002, 08:06

I sure would like a guide=startrek for Star Trek in telecine

Guest · 8th November 2002, 04:28

YV12? People want that? Enough requests may trigger action.

@Mango

LOL

JohnMK · 8th November 2002, 05:30

OMG you bet we do!

JohnMK · 8th November 2002, 05:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Rhaegar Targaryen
I sure hope so too. Can't wait to see the performance increase in DVD to XviD encoding entirely at the native DVD colorspace.

Does this also apply to divx? Will divx get no such speed increase?

hakko504 · 8th November 2002, 08:36

@neuron2

Yes, we want YV12 versions of Decomb. Right now the only thing that stops me from using AviSynth2.5alpha is the lack of a decent deinterlacer.

@John

DivX4/5 will also benefit heavily from YV12 colorspace. DivX3 will not unless someone can moify nandub to use YV12 data.

bb · 8th November 2002, 12:16

Quote:

Originally posted by neuron2
YV12? People want that? Enough requests may trigger action.

Yes. I want that. And another bottle of wine as well

bb

MaTTeR · 8th November 2002, 12:32

Quote:

Originally posted by neuron2
YV12? People want that? Enough requests may trigger action.

Oh yes, that would be great

Rrrough · 8th November 2002, 12:49

Quote:

YV12? People want that? Enough requests may trigger action.

desperate need for it to be triggered

cheers

Guest · 8th November 2002, 18:00

OK, enough. I get the message.

trbarry · 8th November 2002, 18:24

Quote:

YV12? People want that? Enough requests may trigger action.

Yes!

- Tom

Marc FD · 8th November 2002, 20:15

> Yes, we want YV12 versions of Decomb. Right now the only thing that
> stops me from using AviSynth2.5alpha is the lack of a decent
> deinterlacer.

EXACTLY

> YV12? People want that? Enough requests may trigger action.

I WANT YV12 !!! ^___^

Thx.

Dreassica · 8th November 2002, 20:19

Gimme, gimme!! I want YV12 version of decomb too!!

JohnMK · 8th November 2002, 20:45

Better say please.

31st October 2002, 14:52	#1 \| Link
Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	New minor release of Decomb A new release is available at my web site. It gives a new Telecide() pattern guidance mode (guide=3) for 25fps to 30fps telecining, as requested by 'manono', and fixes a small bug in default parameter override of the guide parameter.

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hakko504 Remember Rule One Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SWEDEN Posts: 1,611	@neuron2 Yes, we want YV12 versions of Decomb. Right now the only thing that stops me from using AviSynth2.5alpha is the lack of a decent deinterlacer. @John DivX4/5 will also benefit heavily from YV12 colorspace. DivX3 will not unless someone can moify nandub to use YV12 data. __________________ /hakko http://www.boardgamegeek.com

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4th November 2002, 01:41	#2 \| Link
Rhaegar Targaryen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 46	If we use this new "guide=3" parameter in Telecide, what should the accompanying Decimate paramters be? "Decimate(cycle=6)"? I assume that if we are dealing with a NTSC 30fps source that we want to reverse back to its PAL 25fps state (if such video exists) then, "cycle=6" is the way to go. Please confirm that this would be correct usage of the new guidance mode.

4th November 2002, 04:16	#3 \| Link
manono Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawaii Posts: 7,406	Hi- Everything you said was correct. It's for use with 25fps PAL sources that have been telecined to 30fps NTSC. And such material is definitely out there. It isn't common, but I've seen probably half a dozen such DVDs in the past that could have benefited from it, and used Telecide(Guide=3).Decimate(Cycle=6) successfully on a couple of them so far, with better results than before.

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Rhaegar Targaryen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 46	Thx for the reply. I'm working with such a DVD now. Early results (with the line you just posted, basically) seem somewhat satisfactory, but sometimes the movements of characters on the screen seem a bit off, i.e. there is room for improvement (in the "NTSC->PAL reversal process"). My question is, do you think any of the other Decomb options could help in this regard? Currently I'm trying: reverse=true in Telecide and mode=2 in Decimate To see if either of those can help in this process.

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int 21h Still Laughing Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Around Posts: 1,312	OT but, will we see Decomb for YV12 anytime soon?

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Rhaegar Targaryen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 46	I sure hope so too. Can't wait to see the performance increase in DVD to XviD encoding entirely at the native DVD colorspace.

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Mango Madness Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 132	I sure would like a guide=startrek for Star Trek in telecine

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Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	YV12? People want that? Enough requests may trigger action. @Mango LOL

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JohnMK Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 551	OMG you bet we do!

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Guest Guest Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 21,901	OK, enough. I get the message.

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Marc FD XviD fan Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: France Posts: 907	> Yes, we want YV12 versions of Decomb. Right now the only thing that > stops me from using AviSynth2.5alpha is the lack of a decent > deinterlacer. EXACTLY > YV12? People want that? Enough requests may trigger action. I WANT YV12 !!! ^___^ Thx.

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Dreassica Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 384	Gimme, gimme!! I want YV12 version of decomb too!!

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JohnMK Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 551	Better say please.