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lldaedalusll · 24th April 2009, 16:07

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You don't have to change framerate! 23.976 is ok.

You point to something I thought about. The 24p mode of LCDs or plasmas is real 24fps, or real 23,976 fps?

Atak_Snajpera · 24th April 2009, 16:45

Since all blu-ray movies are encoded as 23.976 and not 24p so I think that TVs must stick to that rule as well. 24p is used as shortcut as well as 60p,30p (real framerate is 59.94,29.97)

howzz · 26th April 2009, 00:01

i am getting very stable constant results of 26fps for 1st pass and 10.6fps for the 2nd pass for 1920X1080P blu-ray action movies encoded in 8MBps setting with profile 4.0. and Xstream copy MKV. this is on my watercooled Q6600 @ 3.7Ghz.

i've never tried CQ, but if that 24core system encodes 2 pass only with that speed, i have to say it's quite disappointing.

Balthazar2k4 · 26th April 2009, 02:43

Has anyone tried using RipBot264 with VC-1 material on Windows 7 x64? I have been successful with H264 and MPEG-2, but with VC-1 RipBot hangs after the demux of the m2ts file. Is there a workaround for this as I would really like to continue using Win7?

Thanks in advance.

screaming · 26th April 2009, 03:17

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Originally Posted by howzz

i am getting very stable constant results of 26fps for 1st pass and 10.6fps for the 2nd pass for 1920X1080P blu-ray action movies encoded in 8MBps setting with profile 4.0. and Xstream copy MKV. this is on my watercooled Q6600 @ 3.7Ghz.

i've never tried CQ, but if that 24core system encodes 2 pass only with that speed, i have to say it's quite disappointing.

As I mentioned in my previous post, that encoding was CQ, NOT 2-pass. I am personally concerned with quality more than the size of the output file.

Secondly, I'm not sure why users speak more about fps processing than the time it take to encode. I just want the encode to finish as quickly as possible.

glowball · 26th April 2009, 10:08

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Originally Posted by screaming

Secondly, I'm not sure why users speak more about fps processing than the time it take to encode. I just want the encode to finish as quickly as possible.

Probably because the more frames per second you can encode... the faster the job will complete?

howzz · 27th April 2009, 01:18

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Originally Posted by screaming

As I mentioned in my previous post, that encoding was CQ, NOT 2-pass. I am personally concerned with quality more than the size of the output file.

Secondly, I'm not sure why users speak more about fps processing than the time it take to encode. I just want the encode to finish as quickly as possible.

that's because you can have a 3 hour long movie that'll take twice as long to encode than a hour and half long movie. therefore how long it takes to encode the movie can be heavily dependent on the length of the film.

a more accurate calculation, or estimate if you will, would be to compare by fps. just like how you would compare how fast two cars travel, in speed mph/kph.

i guess so many users are referring to 2 pass is because most of us here use it. so a more accurate comparison would for the 24 core system to test in 2 pass condition, then perhaps we can all go "wow" (slow/fast).

dbone1026 · 27th April 2009, 01:39

Not sure if this has been done yet, but thought this would be good. If you are using RipBot264, what settings are you using? For me I have been using ripbot264 as follows:

Blu Ray/HD DVD
Profile: 4.0
AutoCrop
1920 x 1080
2-Pass
8150MB
MKV
Original Audio
Takes about 12-15 hours to encode using a Quad Core 6600
(I wrote a quick Wiki on another site regarding Ripbot264 - http://www.mediasmartserver.net/wiki....php/RipBot264)

Standard DVDs
Right now I have all my standard dvds in their native structure (Video_TS) but think that the next step will be to use Ripbot to convert those as well to mkvs, not sure if I would use the same settings as for Blu Ray (sans the 1920x1080).

lldaedalusll · 27th April 2009, 12:31

For me (with blu rays) autocrop does not work. Even though there is a 124 pixel black area at top and bottom (in detail this is even more, but twice 124 maintains height mod 16 = 0) over the full movie in the first bluray I ripped, I got a 1080 height video as output (including black borders). It turned out that I had to manually figure out how much to crop without losses.

Anything else looks fine.

lldaedalusll · 27th April 2009, 12:35

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Originally Posted by Atak_Snajpera

Since all blu-ray movies are encoded as 23.976 and not 24p so I think that TVs must stick to that rule as well. 24p is used as shortcut as well as 60p,30p (real framerate is 59.94,29.97)

Ok, I did it with 23,976 fps and the media portal output is perfectly smooth on my LCD while having selected 24hz as the display refresh rate.

Anyways, you did great job with ripbot, but I would wish that one could integrate several audio streams into the result file with ripbot itself. Up to now I did go the manual way for this.

Blender · 27th April 2009, 23:16

Anyone had problems with Blood Diamond? I have transcoded it three times and at 42 minutes and some seconds it turns into colored snow . I tried trancoding other discs to make sure not a hardware or software issue and all wok fine. Is there some copy/transcode protection I am running in to?

laserfan · 27th April 2009, 23:57

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Originally Posted by Blender

Anyone had problems with Blood Diamond? I have transcoded it three times and at 42 minutes and some seconds it turns into colored snow .

That's a VC-1 and so likely you're having decoding problems. Do you have WMP11 installed...

RCF · 28th April 2009, 18:05

Atak,
I'm very pleased to see that Ripbot and all the associated modules work perfectly under Windows 7 64 bit RC1. I had some concerns but so far I've converted 2 Blu-Ray movies to AVCHD (1080p) using Windows 7 without issue. Thanks again for all of your hard work and a terrific product. It is greatly appreciated by the vast majority of us.

RCF

RCF · 28th April 2009, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Balthazar2k4

Has anyone tried using RipBot264 with VC-1 material on Windows 7 x64? I have been successful with H264 and MPEG-2, but with VC-1 RipBot hangs after the demux of the m2ts file. Is there a workaround for this as I would really like to continue using Win7?

Thanks in advance.

Balthazar2k4,

In response to your question I've not had any issues at all using Ripbot with Windows 7 64 bit RC1. I've ripped 2 movies thus far with this configuration, one was an h.264 and the other VC-1. No issues with either. My system is a home built Q6600 with 4 gigs RAM. I hope this answers your question. Now...with that said I HAVE occasionally had similar problems under Vista especially when the source Blu-Ray contains interlaced video. These are usually Blu-Rays from DiscoveryHD or National Geographic HD. In these cases the work around has been to manually use TS Muxer to save just the streams I want (creating an M2TS file) and then loading that file into Nero Vision (included with Nero 9) to create the AVCHD. Nero Vision packaged with Nero 8 didn't do very well. The new version is much better and handles interlaced sources easily.

RCF

Balthazar2k4 · 28th April 2009, 18:30

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Originally Posted by RCF

Balthazar2k4,

In response to your question I've not had any issues at all using Ripbot with Windows 7 64 bit RC1. I've ripped 2 movies thus far with this configuration, one was an h.264 and the other VC-1. No issues with either. My system is a home built Q6600 with 4 gigs RAM. I hope this answers your question.

RCF

Well, I am at a loss. I have tried three different builds of 7 x64 (fresh installs including build 7100) and none of them will properly load ffdshow after the demux. H264 and MPEG-2 work fine, but VC-1 refuses to play nice. What could I be missing? I have RipBot264 setup exactly the same way as I do under Vista x64 (which works perfectly) and it just does not work. Did you do anything special?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

illestdomer2005 · 29th April 2009, 02:56

Anybody having trouble with the Sin City blu-ray? The movie is getting chopped up into sections that repeat the credits and are out of order. It seems like RipBot isn't processing them correctly.

CORRECTION: Disc 2 of the new BD is a "recut" version that is intentionally chopped up. Apologies.

Blender · 29th April 2009, 03:32

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Originally Posted by laserfan

That's a VC-1 and so likely you're having decoding problems. Do you have WMP11 installed...

Yes I have WMP 11 installed . I have same problem with transcoded file with VLC and Powere dvd 9 hd as well. All turn to snow.

illestdomer2005 · 29th April 2009, 04:33

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Originally Posted by Balthazar2k4

Well, I am at a loss. I have tried three different builds of 7 x64 (fresh installs including build 7100) and none of them will properly load ffdshow after the demux. H264 and MPEG-2 work fine, but VC-1 refuses to play nice. What could I be missing? I have RipBot264 setup exactly the same way as I do under Vista x64 (which works perfectly) and it just does not work. Did you do anything special?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

I had some issues initially setting up RipBot on Windows 7, and I wish I could remember how I fixed them. Basically, RipBot wasn't properly seeing ffdshow, Haali Media Splitter, or both.

In any event, I am running a dual boot Vista x86 and 7 x64, and I've only used 7 a couple of times...mostly because I already have so much already set up on Vista.

The good news is that I think the problem is solvable as long as you don't give up

Balthazar2k4 · 29th April 2009, 05:05

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Originally Posted by illestdomer2005

I had some issues initially setting up RipBot on Windows 7, and I wish I could remember how I fixed them. Basically, RipBot wasn't properly seeing ffdshow, Haali Media Splitter, or both.

In any event, I am running a dual boot Vista x86 and 7 x64, and I've only used 7 a couple of times...mostly because I already have so much already set up on Vista.

The good news is that I think the problem is solvable as long as you don't give up

I believe you would be correct about RipBot not seeing FFDshow correctly. Nothing in Win7 sees FFDshow. I have tried MPC Home Cinema, MeGUI, and HDConverToX. They all exhibit the same problem. What I can't seem to figure out is how others have managed to get it to work and I have spent days researching the problem and can't solve it. Kind of depressing really....

buzzqw · 29th April 2009, 07:09

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I believe you would be correct about RipBot not seeing FFDshow correctly. Nothing in Win7 sees FFDshow. I have tried MPC Home Cinema, MeGUI, and HDConverToX. They all exhibit the same problem. What I can't seem to figure out is how others have managed to get it to work and I have spent days researching the problem and can't solve it. Kind of depressing really....

isn't a issue of gui, but avisynth directshowsource's not able to "dialogate" with ffdshow on win7

maybe better to wait for ffdshow compatibility with win7

BHH

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Atak_Snajpera RipBot264 author Join Date: May 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 7,815	Since all blu-ray movies are encoded as 23.976 and not 24p so I think that TVs must stick to that rule as well. 24p is used as shortcut as well as 60p,30p (real framerate is 59.94,29.97) __________________ Windows 7 Image Updater - SkyLake\KabyLake\CoffeLake\Ryzen Threadripper Last edited by Atak_Snajpera; 24th April 2009 at 16:50.

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howzz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 44	i am getting very stable constant results of 26fps for 1st pass and 10.6fps for the 2nd pass for 1920X1080P blu-ray action movies encoded in 8MBps setting with profile 4.0. and Xstream copy MKV. this is on my watercooled Q6600 @ 3.7Ghz. i've never tried CQ, but if that 24core system encodes 2 pass only with that speed, i have to say it's quite disappointing. Last edited by howzz; 26th April 2009 at 00:05.

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dbone1026 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 211	What are your settings? Not sure if this has been done yet, but thought this would be good. If you are using RipBot264, what settings are you using? For me I have been using ripbot264 as follows: Blu Ray/HD DVD Profile: 4.0 AutoCrop 1920 x 1080 2-Pass 8150MB MKV Original Audio Takes about 12-15 hours to encode using a Quad Core 6600 (I wrote a quick Wiki on another site regarding Ripbot264 - http://www.mediasmartserver.net/wiki....php/RipBot264) Standard DVDs Right now I have all my standard dvds in their native structure (Video_TS) but think that the next step will be to use Ripbot to convert those as well to mkvs, not sure if I would use the same settings as for Blu Ray (sans the 1920x1080). Last edited by dbone1026; 27th April 2009 at 01:45.

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Blender Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 7	Blood Diamond Blu Ray Transcode Problem Anyone had problems with Blood Diamond? I have transcoded it three times and at 42 minutes and some seconds it turns into colored snow . I tried trancoding other discs to make sure not a hardware or software issue and all wok fine. Is there some copy/transcode protection I am running in to?

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illestdomer2005 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 103	Anybody having trouble with the Sin City blu-ray? The movie is getting chopped up into sections that repeat the credits and are out of order. It seems like RipBot isn't processing them correctly. CORRECTION: Disc 2 of the new BD is a "recut" version that is intentionally chopped up. Apologies. Last edited by illestdomer2005; 29th April 2009 at 03:02.

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Balthazar2k4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Here, There, & Everywhere Posts: 269	Has anyone tried using RipBot264 with VC-1 material on Windows 7 x64? I have been successful with H264 and MPEG-2, but with VC-1 RipBot hangs after the demux of the m2ts file. Is there a workaround for this as I would really like to continue using Win7? Thanks in advance.

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lldaedalusll Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 4	For me (with blu rays) autocrop does not work. Even though there is a 124 pixel black area at top and bottom (in detail this is even more, but twice 124 maintains height mod 16 = 0) over the full movie in the first bluray I ripped, I got a 1080 height video as output (including black borders). It turned out that I had to manually figure out how much to crop without losses. Anything else looks fine.

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RCF Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 14	Atak, I'm very pleased to see that Ripbot and all the associated modules work perfectly under Windows 7 64 bit RC1. I had some concerns but so far I've converted 2 Blu-Ray movies to AVCHD (1080p) using Windows 7 without issue. Thanks again for all of your hard work and a terrific product. It is greatly appreciated by the vast majority of us. RCF