Media Player Classic - Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - v1.7.13

[cyberbeing]

@kasper93

Earlier today I was able to reproduce the same issue as vomanci reported, with the "Auto-load subtitles" disabled yet the ISR continuing to load and render both internal and external subtitles. I had to go through steps 1-7 in my previous post to resolve it, and this isn't the first time I've run into this same issue.

Actually, I able to reproduce it again just now. Still unsure what the exact trigger is to cause it to remain active for internal subtitles when "Auto-load subtitles" is disabled, but it seems easy to trigger in regards to external subtitles only as described below.

Unrelated side note: MPC-HC's filter graph logic needs to be updated to take into account the new XySubFilterAutoLoader CLSID, and as of XySubFilter Beta2 there is no longer any need to block VSFilter when XySubFilter + madVR is used. JEEB has a commit here which could work for both needed changes. JEEB also opened a ticket about some MPC-BE functionality worth merging in to make behavior more user friendly when VSFilter.dll or XySubFilter.dll is used.

Originally Posted by kasper93

You don't need to exit player to make this setting works, just reload media file

This doesn't work for files with external subtitles only.

1. Enable "Auto-load subtitles"
2. Start playing Video with external ASS subtitles with ISR
3. Disable "Auto-load subtitles"
4. Reload Video
5. ISR remains active.
6. Exit MPC-HC
7. Start playing Video with external ASS subtitles only, and ISR still auto-loads the external subtitles even though "Auto-load subtitles" is disabled
8. Start playing Video with internal ASS subtitles, and ISR is finally disabled.
9. Go back and start playing Video with external ASS subtitles only, and ISR remains disabled.

1. Enable "Auto-load subtitles"
2. Start playing Video with external ASS subtitles only with ISR in EVR-CP
3. Disable "Auto-load subtitles"
4. Switch Video Renderer to madVR
5. Reload Video
6. ISR remains active even though, "Auto-load subtitles" is disabled.
7. Exit MPC-HC
8. Start playing Video with external ASS subtitles only, and ISR still auto-loads the external subtitles even though "Auto-load subtitles" is disabled
9. Start playing Video with internal ASS subtitles, and ISR is finally disabled.
10. Go back and start playing Video with external ASS subtitles only, and ISR remains disabled.

[kasper93]

@cyberbeing: Thanks, that was very helpful.

Could you test this build and see if there are remaining issues? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16282309/MPC-HC.1.7.3.111.x86_ISR_ENABLE.7z @vomanci you too

JEEB also opened a ticket about some MPC-BE functionality worth merging in to make behavior more user friendly when VSFilter.dll or XySubFilter.dll is used.

I know, I will try to do something about it.

[cyberbeing]

Originally Posted by kasper93

Could you test this build and see if there are remaining issues?

Tested a few different scenarios and it seems okay now.

[vomanci]

Well, tested this build (and all steps cyberbeing recommended) and "subtitles" isn't greyed out but ISR doesn't draw (load) any subtitles. But now it shows in the list internal ones instead of external ones like it did before. But still now seems ok as there isn't any "Enable" setting available, so i guess ISR isn't loaded.
@kasper93 ISR just got loaded, didn't drag&drop anything.

[cyberbeing]

Originally Posted by vomanci

"subtitles" isn't greyed out...there isn't any "Enable" setting available, so i guess ISR isn't loaded.

Correct. When the ISR is disabled yet internal subtitles exist, the subtitle menu not being greyed yet missing "Options" "Styles" "Reload" and "Enable" settings is intended behavior in recent MPC-HC versions. Those settings will only show up in the context menu when the ISR is active.

Originally Posted by vomanci

@kasper93 ISR just got loaded, didn't drag&drop anything.

If you mean you're still having issues with ISR being loaded unexpectedly when the "Auto-load Subtitles" setting is disabled, you'll need to explain how to reproduce the issue.

In current MPC-HC versions, the ISR still will be loaded on demand if you use Drag'n'Drop, File->Load Subtitle, or Subtitle DB Download functionality. Changing this behavior to instead load subtitles into VSFilter.dll or XySubFIlter.dll when active and improve hotkey and menu support is what the feature request ticket here is about. Not yet implemented in MPC-HC.

[vomanci]

With the test build everything is OK.

There aren't any steps to reproduce this for me. In previous build ISR just got loaded automatically. No Drag'n'Drop, File->Load Subtitle, or Subtitle DB Download or hotkey. Weird.

[Volfield]

Possible bug. When i hit pause screen jumps few frames ahead. When unpause its go back and play normally. Tried last few nightly, win8, win7 and its still the same. Only EVR-CP has this problem. MPC-BE, PotPlayer works fine.

EDIT: last working build MPC-HC.1.7.3.64.x86

[NanoBot]

Hi,

Originally Posted by Armada

You can already pop out the playlist before going to fullscreen, so at least you're still able to do that.
I'll keep this usage scenario in mind and find a good way to address it, thanks for the feedback.
We're actually looking to bring back the options dialog during D3DFullscreen playback for people who run a dual-screen setup.

I would like to ask if there is already a solution for this scenario and I eventually missed it ? Until now, the only solution for me is to stick with version 1.6.8, which is the latest stable version which works like I prefer it.

[minaust]

Originally Posted by cyberbeing

@kasper93

Earlier today I was able to reproduce the same issue as vomanci reported, with the "Auto-load subtitles" disabled yet the ISR continuing to load and render both internal and external subtitles. I had to go through steps 1-7 in my previous post to resolve it, and this isn't the first time I've run into this same issue.

I'm running Windows 7 pro 64 bit and using MPC-HC 1.7.3 stable. I spent the better part of a day using your steps to reproduce the problem without success. In all cases the autoload checkbox behaved as expected - with and without xyvsfilter installed.

I'm curious though - did you clear MPC-HC completely from your registry and set it up all ever again?

[cyberbeing]

The issue can be reproduced in MPC-HC 1.7.3 stable when reset to default settings, if that's what you're asking.

kasper93 already reproduced and fixed the bug, so I don't know why you'd want to waste time on this any longer.

[RandomQ]

I have a totally random issue with MPC that is pretty inconvenient.
If I open a file occasionally a distorted and deafening noise starts and stops only if I close the player. What could it be and how do I check what's causing it?
This happens completely randomly and it's incredibly loud.

I mostly use MPC for watching anime and I'm using madVR + LAV filters.

[rock]

I'd like to see a new way to change the logo, like toolbar with just simply put image into mpc-hc folder

[mindbomb]

Originally Posted by RandomQ

I have a totally random issue with MPC that is pretty inconvenient.
If I open a file occasionally a distorted and deafening noise starts and stops only if I close the player. What could it be and how do I check what's causing it?
This happens completely randomly and it's incredibly loud.

I mostly use MPC for watching anime and I'm using madVR + LAV filters.

Oh wow, this happens to me sometimes too, but only on one of my computers. I use reclock as my audio renderer with wasapi exclusive mode, I assume it has something to do with that. I also switch between different audio devices on it.

[jkauff]

Had a problem today with latest nightly MPC-HC.1.7.3.147.x86. Every few minutes, video and audio would suddenly get out of sync by a few seconds. Exiting and restarting fixes the problem for a few more minutes. Filters all internal LAV; renderer latest madVR.

Problem does not occur with earlier builds or other players.

[kasper93]

@jkauff: Please create a ticket http://trac.mpc-hc.org/ with explanation. what is happening, when, what was the last working build. But before that check if it happens both with subtitles and without.

[jkauff]

Originally Posted by kasper93

@jkauff: Please create a ticket http://trac.mpc-hc.org/ with explanation. what is happening, when, what was the last working build. But before that check if it happens both with subtitles and without.

Done. The 155 build does the same. The video playback speeds up and gets out of sync with the audio.

[eddman]

Is there a way to set the subtitles relative to the frame rather than the picture?

It would be useful while watching cinema aspect ratio movies (2.39/2.35:1) in full-screen, so that they won't obscure the picture and rather sit below it in the black space.

[slalom]

Look at options for subtitles, you'll have to uncheck a box

[eddman]

Originally Posted by slalom

Look at options for subtitles, you'll have to uncheck a box

Thanks, but it's not working for my movies with PGS subs.

[nevcairiel]

PGS subtitles define an absolute position on the screen, relative to the full 1080p signal from the Blu-ray they are coming from. Blame the Blu-ray creator for placing them inside the image.