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Old 9th March 2009, 09:03   #8501  |  Link
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The Nero HD-DVD/Blu-Ray plug-in isn't even available anymore, so I'm not sure how people who didn't buy it during the relatively short window it was for sale would get it.
I don't know. You could try contacting Nero support. But the libav decoder works well enough, too, so it's not really all that necessary to have Nero working.

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As for the Arcsoft plug-in, I'm not sure which of their programs this one comes with, however I haven't heard great things about their software so I wouldn't really want to pay for it anyway.
Well, it's your choice. Either you want DTS-HD decoding or you don't want it. If you do want it, Arcsoft is the best choice. The DTS core can be decoded by eac3to without needing any external software. But obviously decoding only the core means that you don't get full quality. The core quality is very good already on its own, though.

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And Surcode's DTS plug-in is ridiculously expensive.
Then just use AC3 encoding instead, which doesn't need any external software.

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there seems to be a problem introduced in 3.13. The output audio is corrupted when the input file is a wav.
Argh, thanks. One of the bug fixes fired back.
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Old 9th March 2009, 09:41   #8502  |  Link
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Couple of things to notice:
32-bit and 64-bit floating point WAV files made with Audacity crash eac3to.

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Notice the repeated sound in the beginning.
Should be fixed in next build.

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All the FLAC files have differen't sizes and aren't identical to test3.wav.
That is expected behaviour due to dithering. test3.wav is 32bit which (AFAIK) the current libFlac encoder does not support. So eac3to has to dither down to 24bit.
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Old 9th March 2009, 09:42   #8503  |  Link
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eac3to v3.14 released

http://madshi.net/eac3to.zip

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* WAV reading was broken for all but very small files (introduced in v3.13)
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Old 9th March 2009, 12:04   #8504  |  Link
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does the case that gaps/overlaps of seamless branching do not exist any more apply to all kind of audio tracks? Im sure for flac, as flac framelength is only 1ms, but does this also apply to the other formats? would a DTS track created from a seamless branching movie have more gaps or overlaps in between as a flac track created out of the same movie?
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Old 9th March 2009, 16:11   #8505  |  Link
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Sorry. Interlaced, of course! And my post was indeed about a VC-1 clip. If you can detect/identify the messes that are these hybrid VC-1 clips, you will join neuron2 as the only who's figured these out AFAICT.
I was not aware that there are "hybrid" VC-1 clips. Do you mean that some parts of the clip are encoded interlaced and some progressively? Can I have a sample of such a clip, please? What kind of output would you expect from eac3to for such a clip?

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does the case that gaps/overlaps of seamless branching do not exist any more apply to all kind of audio tracks? Im sure for flac, as flac framelength is only 1ms, but does this also apply to the other formats? would a DTS track created from a seamless branching movie have more gaps or overlaps in between as a flac track created out of the same movie?
As soon as you transcode audio, delays and audio gaps/overlaps are removed down to 1ms granularity. So if you e.g. convert a TrueHD track to DTS, you get 1ms granularity, because eac3to has to decode, anyway. If e.g. the movie track is DTS and you want to avoid transcoding by keeping it as DTS, then eac3to has to live with the frame size limitations. E.g. for DTS a frame is usually 10.6ms long, so delay and gap/overlap fixing is done with up to 5.3ms granularity. But don't worry, eac3to is clever enough to not let the granularity "problem" make seamless branching audio go out of sync. Gap/overlap fixing remainders are cumulated and treated correctly with every new gap/overlap, of course...
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Old 9th March 2009, 18:46   #8506  |  Link
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Should be fixed in next build.
What about the repeated beginning?
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Old 9th March 2009, 20:27   #8507  |  Link
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I was not aware that there are "hybrid" VC-1 clips. Do you mean that some parts of the clip are encoded interlaced and some progressively? Can I have a sample of such a clip, please? What kind of output would you expect from eac3to for such a clip?
I have uploaded a 20MB sample clip here, made with dgsplit. Here is what DGVC1IndexNV has to say about it:
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D:\mamma mia clip\snip.m2ts
C:\Program Files (x86)\DGVC1DecNV\

STREAM 1
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Honestly I do not *expect* anything of eac3to, beyond what it already does correctly which is to demultiplex, and convert audio. It's just that these clips will crash most decoders, indeed AFAIK neuron2's tool is the only one that deals with them, i.e. after indexing you can re-encode or play with VirtualDub.

Given though that eac3to is "step 1" for any manipulation effort, it would be useful I think if it were to ID these as a mix of interlaced & progressive, if possible (that's where I'd hoped your field/frame count might be way to tell).
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Old 9th March 2009, 20:29   #8508  |  Link
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Anyone know why most recent versions (up to and including v.0.34b) of "Clown_BD" reject input of .MKV files, despite showing .MKV to be an acceptable input format?
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What about the repeated beginning?
Should also be fixed. Just give it a try...

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I have uploaded a 20MB sample clip
Thanks. Will have a deeper look at this when I finally find some time to fix/improve interlaced VC-1 handling.
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Old 10th March 2009, 00:46   #8510  |  Link
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What about the repeated beginning?
With 3.13 I can reproduce the problem at the beginning, but 3.14 work fine for me.
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eac3to v3.14 released

http://madshi.net/eac3to.zip

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Anyone know why most recent versions (up to and including v.0.34b) of "Clown_BD" reject input of .MKV files, despite showing .MKV to be an acceptable input format?
because I don't have any .MKVs to test. Please post the logs (in the Slysoft forum).

I assume that eac3to CLI can handle your files ?
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@mrr19121970

Hi!

Thanks for getting back to me.
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I assume that eac3to CLI can handle your files ?
Thusfar, I've only used eac3to via your (very impressive) GUI.

Like you, based on the information in post #1 of this thread, I also presume that it can handle MKV as input.

Any further insight that you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
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@mrr19121970, your signature says "eacto" instead of "eac3to"...
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Changed it now. 52k views on the Slysoft forum, and nobody noticed it.



@setarip_old

like I said, I've no way to test it.

you need to try the CLI version:

"c:\yourpathto\eac3to.exe" "C:\your.mkv" -demux

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Then, perhaps you should include a note in the download that states that this is presently a non-functioning option of your GUI...
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Then, perhaps you should include a note in the download that states that this is presently a non-functioning option of your GUI...
The GUI is exactly that, it's only an interface, a presentation layer.

If the underlying programs cannot handle a particular (for whatever reason) then you need to show logs so that the author can address the issue.
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guys, I got a pretty annoying problem....hopefully someone will have an idea

I've got the german Revolver BD, w/ the english track in DTS HD MA....I've tried to extract the core w/ eac3to and I get quite a lot of static in different places(not loud ones, so it's not saturation )
w/ the extracted DTS core, the static is worse in Sonic 4.2 than in AC3filter, I've tried to play the DTSHD file w/ Sonic 4.2 : it's full of glitches but it seems that the static is still there..

a friend of mine tried to play the track in Arcsoft and the static was still there, I guess that's the only way to play DTS HD in its full glory on PC ?

I've read that Sonic 4.3 should also play it, but I've never managed to make it open DTS...does it really play DTS HD ?

either there's some DRC or whatever that's saturating the audio, or the guys at the mastering studio didn't notice that the english track was full of static before encoding it

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or the guys at the mastering studio didn't notice that the english track was full of static before encoding it
Are you saying that the same audio problem is observed when you play your original BluRay disc?
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Are you saying that the same audio problem is observed when you play your original BluRay disc?
well yeah, the DTS core on the original disc has the glitches..from what I know if you play DTSHD in PDVD it will only play the core?

only Arcsoft can decode DTSHD fully, as I understand it? I guess I'm SOL, too bad this happens on my favorite movie

I wish I could somehow decode it to FLAC w/o the glitches

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