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Old 18th March 2018, 16:51   #21  |  Link
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Because MPEG4-ASP has uses you can't imagine. And may it just be: "Hey, my player still works, why buy another?"
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In addition, IMHO is less demanding for some players, and as it is less and less important the size of a file I think it is a good idea to code in XVID.

Edit: i have a LG DVK-9713N, it works like a charm.
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Well, it's definitely not for me, that's for sure.

I feel like the best way to watch anything is on a PC, and if you want to watch it on a TV, just get a moderately long HDMI cable, or build a small form factor, HTPC and stream everything to it from your main PC or home NAS. Whatever.

If you're converting movies to xvid in 2018, you're just dragging out the inevitable. There are better formats out there and many players can handle them just fine with no issues.

Feel free to convince me otherwise.

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This feels like a copout response.... as it doesn't elaborate enough to actually sustain itself as a valid reason. Feel free to elaborate.
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There is no need to convince you that you should use Xvid when you know you can rather use something more advanced.

Other people may need Xvid for specific reasons. And I won't convince them to abandon Xvid at all costs. Only if convenient.
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Cool!

I still prefer the natural look and feel of XviD encoded videos, instead of the perfectly clean, deblocked, artificial look of x264 encoded videos.
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There is no need to convince you that you should use Xvid when you know you can rather use something more advanced.

Other people may need Xvid for specific reasons. And I won't convince them to abandon Xvid at all costs. Only if convenient.
Okay, so if you can't even remember something you said 1 post ago, then I will just settle on the fact that you have no clue what you're talking about.


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ELABORATE.

Please and thank you.
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I still prefer the natural look and feel of XviD encoded videos, instead of the perfectly clean, deblocked, artificial look of x264 encoded videos.
I don't think this is a universally true statement. It depends on the footage, the bitrate chosen, resolution, and the encode settings (grain preservation techniques, etc), and also, which details you tend to focus on more than someone else.

I've seen many XviD videos in my time, and they almost all look like an artifacting mess by comparison to x264 or x265. x264 and x265 look far more natural to me if you choose correct settings, which is actually very easy to do.
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Well, it's definitely not for me, that's for sure.
Fair enough.

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I feel like the best way to watch anything is on a PC, and if you want to watch it on a TV, just get a moderately long HDMI cable, or build a small form factor, HTPC and stream everything to it from your main PC or home NAS.
That's your opinion, or rather what you "feel like". I for example use an excellent media player app in my smart TV to view stuff from my NAS. No HTPC necessary. Other people use dedicated set top boxes. Whatever floats ones boat.

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If you're converting movies to xvid in 2018, you're just dragging out the inevitable.
That statement makes no sense. What exactly is inevitable?

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Feel free to convince me otherwise.
That surely would be a waste of time.

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The "please" doesn't make this request less demanding (and ALL CAPS is demanding); I don't enjoy being threatened.

I belong to the group of people who still occasionally use a mobile player (pocket size) which is not yet capable of decoding MPEG4-AVC, for which MPEG4-ASP is the optimum. And as long as it works, I see no reason to dump it. Of course, today I would not buy such a limited device anymore. But that's not the topic here.

I grant you your right to use "something better than Xvid", I don't mind. But I would mind if you deny other people the right to still use Xvid where it is appropriate for their limited features.

My parents taught me tolerance. What I don't like but can't fix, I may decide not to care about further.
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