What is the difference between LimitedSharpenFaster and SeeSaw?

orion44 · 5th June 2023, 02:29

Does LimitedSharpenFaster and SeeSaw produce the same sharpening, or is there a difference between these two sharpeners?

lollo2 · 5th June 2023, 10:24

No. Here a comparison:

https://imgsli.com/MTg0MDQy

https://imgsli.com/MTg0MDQz

Code:

SeeSaw()

Code:

LimitedSharpenFaster(smode=3, strength=s250, overshoot=50, ss_x=1.5, ss_y=1.5)

In any case, you should try with your own material.

StainlessS · 5th June 2023, 16:16

Or you could try comparison like this [untested]

Code:

Colorbars
#Avisource(".\SomeClip.avi")
A = Last # Filter 1
B = ShowFrameNumber #Filter 2
Interleave(a.SubTitle("A"),b.SubTitle("B"))

orion44 · 5th June 2023, 18:19

I'm testing both LSF and SeeSaw.

I managed to achieve great results with LimitedSharpenFaster and HQDN3D denoiser.

I'm not sure how to use SeeSaw. I want to give SeeSaw a denoised video, then resize it, and then apply SeeSaw sharpening.

Something like this:

Code:

hqdn3d(ls=0, cs=0, lt=2, ct=3, restart=3)
BicubicResize(640,480,b=0,c=0.5)
SeeSaw()

I know this is not correct, but how do I give SeeSaw a denoised clip, then resize it, and after resizing it apply the sharpening part of SeeSaw?

ChaosKing · 5th June 2023, 21:00

Quote:

SeeSaw: More of a detail enhancer than a regular sharpener. Also lets you really turn up the denoising without the typical ringing and haloing. https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104701

SeeSaw needs 2 input clips, original and denoised.
Avisynth wiki has more information: http://avisynth.nl/index.php/SeeSaw

Wathre · 19th October 2023, 07:33

LimitedSharpenFaster is a sharpening algorithm commonly used in video encoding and post-processing. It focuses on enhancing edge sharpness while minimizing the introduction of artifacts and noise. Compared to LimitedSharpenFaster, SeeSaw offers a more aggressive approach to sharpening, resulting in a more pronounced and noticeable sharpening effect. geometry dash lite

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orion44 None Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Background Posts: 307	What is the difference between LimitedSharpenFaster and SeeSaw? Does LimitedSharpenFaster and SeeSaw produce the same sharpening, or is there a difference between these two sharpeners?

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lollo2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Italy Posts: 115	No. Here a comparison: https://imgsli.com/MTg0MDQy https://imgsli.com/MTg0MDQz Code: SeeSaw() Code: LimitedSharpenFaster(smode=3, strength=s250, overshoot=50, ss_x=1.5, ss_y=1.5) In any case, you should try with your own material. __________________ A channel on S-VHS / VHS capture and AviSynth restoration https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMs...h1MmNAs7I8nu4g

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StainlessS HeartlessS Usurer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Over the rainbow Posts: 10,980	Or you could try comparison like this [untested] Code: Colorbars #Avisource(".\SomeClip.avi") A = Last # Filter 1 B = ShowFrameNumber #Filter 2 Interleave(a.SubTitle("A"),b.SubTitle("B")) __________________ I sometimes post sober. StainlessS@MediaFire ::: AND/OR ::: StainlessS@SendSpace "Some infinities are bigger than other infinities", but how many of them are infinitely bigger ???

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orion44 None Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Background Posts: 307	I'm testing both LSF and SeeSaw. I managed to achieve great results with LimitedSharpenFaster and HQDN3D denoiser. I'm not sure how to use SeeSaw. I want to give SeeSaw a denoised video, then resize it, and then apply SeeSaw sharpening. Something like this: Code: hqdn3d(ls=0, cs=0, lt=2, ct=3, restart=3) BicubicResize(640,480,b=0,c=0.5) SeeSaw() I know this is not correct, but how do I give SeeSaw a denoised clip, then resize it, and after resizing it apply the sharpening part of SeeSaw?

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Wathre Registered User Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 1	LimitedSharpenFaster is a sharpening algorithm commonly used in video encoding and post-processing. It focuses on enhancing edge sharpness while minimizing the introduction of artifacts and noise. Compared to LimitedSharpenFaster, SeeSaw offers a more aggressive approach to sharpening, resulting in a more pronounced and noticeable sharpening effect. geometry dash lite Last edited by Wathre; 20th October 2023 at 02:07.

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