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Old 13th April 2018, 21:11   #1461  |  Link
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As for Frame Sequence, I could not make it work properly, there are too few players out there able to play it correctly.
It worked for me using Plex client installed on the TV itself.
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Old 17th April 2018, 23:09   #1462  |  Link
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I use this great program for all of my 3D Blu-rays, with the MKV mode. Never had a problem until now.

I finally got a copy of Avatar that kind of seems to work, after trying 3 US copies I gave up and imported a UK copy.

Like the US copies, MakeMKV had no problem with creating a backup but ran into "trying to work around" issues when making the MKV. However, it did complete apparently successfully.

Watching the MKV out of MakeMKV, it seems okay and plays without problems. There is a subtitle track with both all subtitles and Na'vi subtitles, and a separate subtitle track for the forced-only Na'vi subtitles.

Now we get to BD3D2MK3D - it seems to work fine for the subtitle track with ALL subtitles, but it doesn't work for the forced-only Na'vi subtitles, which is what I want.

It completes the process and the resulting SBS MKV looks fine, but it gives errors during the process, which show that it fails the track containing the forced-only Na'vi subtitles.

I've attached the error message that popped up during the "Generating project" stage, as well as the log file. (The attachments are pending approval.)

Any help would be much appreciated!
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Old 18th April 2018, 09:26   #1463  |  Link
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The Avatar subtitles are known to be problematic, probably because they are included two times (in the AVC and MVC M2TS files), and that confuses the demuxers. I'm not sure why it doesn't work with the MKV source, but it is possible to extract them properly from the (decrypted) BD. Anyway, if I remember correctly, there is only one subtitle stream for a specific language, and the Navi forced subtitles are simply included in the complete stream and tagged as forced. So, if BD3D2MK3D has properly demuxed the whole stream, you can normally simply extract the forced subtitles from the full stream, with BDSup2Sub. Just launch BDSup2Sub (with Subtitles Tools -> Open Subtitle Stream in BDSup2Sub), and export a new SUP file with the forced subtitles only. You can then use Subtitle Tools -> Convert Subtitles to 3D with the right 3D-Plane (see the 3D-Planes numbers in tab 1 of BD3D2MK3D - Do not trust tsMuxeR!). That works perfectly with the subtitles directly extracted from the (properly decrypted) original European BD. If that's not possible with the MKV created by MakeMKV, then there is a bug in MakeMKV, and you should contact its authors.
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I see now the approved attached images. I can only tell you that the "index out of bounds" error happens usually when a stream is created, but it contains no subtitles at all, or just pointers to non-existing bitmaps. Therefore, I guess that MakeMKV has created a bad forced stream. Try to do what I have explained in my previous post. It should be easy to extract the forced subtitles from the full stream.

Since the first time I have converted Avatar, that was from the 3DBD, I've just converted it again, but this time I have decrypted it with MakeMKV and converted the 3D MKV, with the English and French subtitles, to verify if I can reproduce your problem. Everything went fine, including the forced subtitles. I may have another version than yours, but AFAIK, the current version of BD3D2MK3D has no problem with the subtitles. However, it includes 3 subtitles at the very beginning (up to 30 seconds in the movie) with a full-screen text "Please turn on your 3D glasses and put them on now". English subs 1475 to 1607 (from 2:36:43 to 2:41:40) are identical. They are the subtitles taken from the MVC M2TS. These subtitles are useless but are present only in the output streams with all subtitles. The forced streams are not affected. Unfortunately, BD3D2MK3D has no way to understand that these subtitles should be removed, and therefore they appear in the full stream. Of course, for a better result, it is better to remove them manually with BDSup2Sub, and remux the movie with __MUX_3D.cmd.

I don't remember if that strange subtitles were also present in the streams generated from the BD during my first encode of Avatar, but I remember that I have had many problems with the Avatar subtitles, and I've added some workarounds in BD3D2MK3D to be able to handle them. Currently, it seems that BD3D2MK3D can convert the streams successfully, but at least when converting the 3D MKV, it cannot avoid the "3D glasses" full-screen subtitles. IMO, it's the job of MakeMKV to try to export only the subtitles from the AVC M2TS and ignore the subtitles from the MVC M2TS. Since in the 3D MKV, they have been merged, BD3D2MK3D cannot distinguish them, and therefore cannot ignore them.

Anyway, on my side, I cannot do something to avoid your problems. You will have to create the forced stream manually.
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