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24th February 2018, 12:34 | #49221 | Link | |
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REW may have some silly limitations, yet I use it because it's the best at what it does (and I'm forever grateful for what his author does). I feel the same towards LAV and you by the way, or MadVR and Madshi, and I never call a well-designed bit of software silly, especially when it's free and it's the best at what it does Any chance you could answer the question about which windows build you use so we can close this OT conversation? Thanks!
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24th February 2018, 13:48 | #49222 | Link |
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Which one of these 2 options is best to use? http://imgbox.com/epee9wJQ
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24th February 2018, 19:04 | #49224 | Link |
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I think there will be a new Version soon. the new displaycal changelog showed a feature which requires madvr 0.92.13 or higher. so i think a new version will be released soon, maybe this weekend or next, but thats just my thoughts...
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24th February 2018, 21:37 | #49225 | Link | |
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Typical movie material is shot on 24 frames/s film; when converting film to interlaced video using telecine, each film frame can be presented by two progressive segmented frames (PsF). This format does not require complex deinterlacing algorithm because each field contains a part of the very same progressive frame. However to match 50 field interlaced PAL/SECAM or 59.94/60 field interlaced NTSC signal, frame rate conversion should be performed using various "pulldown" techniques; most advanced TV sets can restore the original 24 frame/s signal using an inverse telecine process. Another option is to speed up 24-frame film by 4% (to 25 frames/s) for PAL/SECAM conversion; this method is still vastly used for DVDs, as well as television broadcasts (SD & HD) in the PAL MARKETS. [/SPOILER] So with Psf material no deinterlacing is needed. So is madvr to perform the pulldown at this point? Speeding the source up to 25 frames? And can you go deeper in the source detection not working argument?
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25th February 2018, 16:08 | #49230 | Link |
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There were a lot of improvements/changes for NGU and HDR recently. What about image refinements or smoothmotion? Are there some possible improvements to do? What about a reclock alternative since custom resolutions are still problematic with old and current hardware? |
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25th February 2018, 19:30 | #49234 | Link | |
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Trying to do motion compensation results in artifacts, there are simply too many kinds of motion you cannot predict well. I only want the source displayed as perfectly as possible. Also, trying to use motion compensation to do the same job as smooth motion results in many original frames needing to be thrown away so you end up mostly viewing the new frames with motion prediction errors.
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25th February 2018, 20:34 | #49235 | Link | |
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I don't know how it would affect a 60Hz display? I use a 120Hz and when I turn on interpolation, that creates 240Hz, I get no machine gun effect at all. Smooth as butter. Nor do I get any bad motion predicted frames inserted I'm told I should be getting and certainly not a majority of them or the picture would be blemished and unwatchable to me. Perhaps some displays use better interpolation processing than others? Perhaps it's a major difference between a 60Hz display and a 120Hz since pulldown never comes into play?
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25th February 2018, 20:44 | #49236 | Link |
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I really enjoy the motion interpolation from my Samsung TV. They manage to add better motion without giving soap opera effect (ok there is some judder -not even artifacts- sometimes). I prefer to use 4:2:2 + 24Hz + motion interpolation instead of 4:4:4 + 60Hz + madVR's smooth motion.
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25th February 2018, 20:58 | #49237 | Link |
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To each their own I suppose. I use 4:4:4 + 24 Hz without interpolation. Using motion interpolation to take 24 Hz to 60 Hz, with SVP or similar, is the worst situation. As always, smooth motion is only useful if you cannot get a well matched refresh rate. Doing it in the TV is a better place than in madVR.
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madVR is already doing more than just "rendering source as best as possible", so I hope someday madshi will consider implementing motion detection/compensation engine. I think it will also allow to increase deinterlacing and sharpening quality.
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