100% still recompresses ??

red321 · 22nd February 2003, 20:30

Hi,

Just ran throught MIB 2, where the movie is small enough to allow 100% on th emain movie, and 30% on the extras.

I expected that the MOvie would rattle through uncompressed, as it does in dvd2one, but it looks as if it was run through like any other compression. Anyone confirm / deny this ?

mrbass · 22nd February 2003, 20:37

I confirm this ...to not be true. It just moves it over to the .pdi files....Proof is when I usually transcode (e.g. 80%) I see it flucate (speed that is) between 700KB/sec to 1.5MB/sec. When I have done 100% (done it 20 times or so ..just testing subs, audio, navigation, etc. does whole thing in about 20 mins) I get a speed of 18MB/sec to 20MB/sec.

One other thing is I've looked at the original and 100% transcoded and it's 100% like the original.

red321 · 22nd February 2003, 20:47

Thanks for the reply. That is what I expected, but checking The 2nd Title set on MIB2, it has decreased in size by about 150M, even though I didnt strip anything (intentionally) and the compression rate was 100%.

I will check it out again.

UPDATE : Ran it again, only with the main movie, and it whistled through unchanged. odd !

MackemX · 22nd February 2003, 20:49

did it take the same amount of time to complete or was it quicker?

doing Stuart Little 1 and I'm sure it was @100% for the movie yet it took longer than a 2 hour movie @70% to complete

If it wasn't 100% it was quite high, so the higher the % the slower it must go

Is this true or was it just a one off?

surely @100% it should just extract audio & subs and be a lot faster

int 21h · 22nd February 2003, 20:51

If it is recompressing, it goes the same speed no matter if its 20% or if its 80%.

mrbass · 22nd February 2003, 20:53

Quote:

Originally posted by int 21h
If it is recompressing, it goes the same speed no matter if its 20% or if its 80%.

correct....99% will take just as long as 30%. Only 100% is it telling it to not transcode.

MackemX · 22nd February 2003, 21:03

I musta had mine darn pretty close to 100% as I never normally set the menus to less than 60%

DOH!, cudda sacrificed that little extra on menu's to make main movie 100%

thanks for info guys

red321 · 23rd February 2003, 18:25

Ok,

After much messing around I get these results.

1) Deselect all the extras, set the main movie to 100% - no recompression

2) Deselect most of the extras, set the main movie to 100% - no recompression.

3) Deselect most of the extras, set the main movie to 100%, and then change one of the extras compression setting away from the default -
recompression !

So I cannot produce a 100% main movie without recompression, unless I cut out enough extras to allow the Main movie to be expanded back to 100%, without changing the compression on the remaining extras.

Looks like a bug

MackemX · 23rd February 2003, 18:30

Quote:

Originally posted by red321
Ok,

After much messing around I get these results.

1) Deselect all the extras, set the main movie to 100% - no recompression

2) Deselect most of the extras, set the main movie to 100% - no recompression.

3) Deselect most of the extras, set the main movie to 100%, and then change one of the extras compression setting away from the default -
recompression !

So I cannot produce a 100% main movie without recompression, unless I cut out enough extras to allow the Main movie to be expanded back to 100%, without changing the compression on the remaining extras.

Look slke a bug

so I musta set Stuart Little to 100% as the menus weren't 100%, this is what I mentioned in my earlier post as I was sure I set it to 100% for the main movie, but this confirms I did

thanks for info

paranoidi · 3rd March 2003, 17:37

I have not yet managed to get movie without transcoding. Yes, I have set the slider to 100% and tried to avoid bugs which MisterX described. There isn't just any way to do that... they should fix this ASAP :P

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red321 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 44	100% still recompresses ?? Hi, Just ran throught MIB 2, where the movie is small enough to allow 100% on th emain movie, and 30% on the extras. I expected that the MOvie would rattle through uncompressed, as it does in dvd2one, but it looks as if it was run through like any other compression. Anyone confirm / deny this ?

22nd February 2003, 20:47	#3 \| Link
red321 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 44	Thanks for the reply. That is what I expected, but checking The 2nd Title set on MIB2, it has decreased in size by about 150M, even though I didnt strip anything (intentionally) and the compression rate was 100%. I will check it out again. UPDATE : Ran it again, only with the main movie, and it whistled through unchanged. odd ! Last edited by red321; 22nd February 2003 at 21:39.

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MackemX ..DVD GOD.. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,838	did it take the same amount of time to complete or was it quicker? doing Stuart Little 1 and I'm sure it was @100% for the movie yet it took longer than a 2 hour movie @70% to complete If it wasn't 100% it was quite high, so the higher the % the slower it must go Is this true or was it just a one off? surely @100% it should just extract audio & subs and be a lot faster Last edited by MackemX; 22nd February 2003 at 20:51.

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red321 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 44	Ok, After much messing around I get these results. 1) Deselect all the extras, set the main movie to 100% - no recompression 2) Deselect most of the extras, set the main movie to 100% - no recompression. 3) Deselect most of the extras, set the main movie to 100%, and then change one of the extras compression setting away from the default - recompression ! So I cannot produce a 100% main movie without recompression, unless I cut out enough extras to allow the Main movie to be expanded back to 100%, without changing the compression on the remaining extras. Looks like a bug Last edited by red321; 23rd February 2003 at 18:35.

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22nd February 2003, 20:37	#2 \| Link
mrbass Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,034	I confirm this ...to not be true. It just moves it over to the .pdi files....Proof is when I usually transcode (e.g. 80%) I see it flucate (speed that is) between 700KB/sec to 1.5MB/sec. When I have done 100% (done it 20 times or so ..just testing subs, audio, navigation, etc. does whole thing in about 20 mins) I get a speed of 18MB/sec to 20MB/sec. One other thing is I've looked at the original and 100% transcoded and it's 100% like the original.

22nd February 2003, 20:51	#5 \| Link
int 21h Still Laughing Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Around Posts: 1,312	If it is recompressing, it goes the same speed no matter if its 20% or if its 80%.

22nd February 2003, 21:03	#7 \| Link
MackemX ..DVD GOD.. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,838	I musta had mine darn pretty close to 100% as I never normally set the menus to less than 60% DOH!, cudda sacrificed that little extra on menu's to make main movie 100% thanks for info guys

3rd March 2003, 17:37	#10 \| Link
paranoidi Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2	I have not yet managed to get movie without transcoding. Yes, I have set the slider to 100% and tried to avoid bugs which MisterX described. There isn't just any way to do that... they should fix this ASAP :P