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setarip_old · 31st July 2010, 20:17

As my mother used to say, "Take your eyes in your hands and look!"

Talk about hiding in plain sight ;>}

Thanks - But why CAN'T it be another "per-title" option? It only takes effect if such a track is discovered, just like the other default audio settings, doesn't it?

deank · 31st July 2010, 20:20

It certainly can, but most people want per-title options and not per-compilation.

There is an option in Subtitles&Audio to convert HD audio to AC3, which should give similar results to what you need.

Dean

MrVideo · 31st July 2010, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by deank

I don't know why you decided that you need avsinfo.exe.

Because of post 6183 from Groucho2004.

I'm still curious as to the difference between multiUPDATE.exe and multiAVCHD.exe.

deank · 31st July 2010, 20:37

multiAVCHD executes multiUPDATE.exe when it needs update.

multiUPDATE downloads multiAVCHD.rar, extracts it and launches the extracted multiAVCHD.exe.

Dean

MrVideo · 31st July 2010, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by deank

multiAVCHD executes multiUPDATE.exe when it needs update.

multiUPDATE downloads multiAVCHD.rar, extracts it and launches the extracted multiAVCHD.exe.

Ah. Thanks for the info.

MrVideo · 31st July 2010, 21:11

I don't know if the updater logs what it does somewhere, but it had issues with the first place that it tried to go to and failed with the next 4 mirrors.

For example:

Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#2
HttpSendRequest error
HttpQueryInfo: 12019
Error! (0)

The HttpQuery error line only showed up with mirror #2.

It seems to be downloading from mirror #5, as there are no errors, and nothing else to indicate that it is, or isn't, working.

The suggestion:

Don't put out a message that it is downloading unless it is really downloading, i.e., the connection was fully established and the file it is after is really being downloaded. In other words, something like:

Trying next mirror...
URL: Mirror#2
Downloading...

Thanks.

MrVideo · 31st July 2010, 21:22

Here is the complete session log:

Initialising...
Checking...
Downloading...
[14:56:38] Connecting...
[14:56:40] Connect failed!
[14:56:40] Connecting...
[14:56:47] Connect failed!
[14:56:47] Connecting...
[14:56:49] Connect failed!
Error! (500)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#1
HttpSendRequest error
Error! (0)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#2
HttpSendRequest error
HttpQueryInfo: 12019
Error! (0)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#3
HttpSendRequest error
Error! (0)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#4
HttpSendRequest error
Error! (0)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#5
InternetReadFile failed for http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD.exe
Done!

After the done, another updater GUI poped up with the following message:

(RT) Application "C:\multiAVCHD\multiAVCHD.exe" cannot be executed - Line 148.

Sure enough, multiAVCHD is broken. I'll have to install from a previous download and try the update again.

Is there a way to make the updating process more robust so that the current installed version isn't corrupted?

UPDATE: Tried it again. This time it started the download from mirror #2, But this time got the InternetReadFile failure on the RAR file. multiAVCHD.exe gone again.

Third try resulted in the same failure at mirror #2. Going to go fetch the latest version manually.

Capsbackup · 31st July 2010, 21:56

This just happened to me too. I had another copy, so just copied that into multiAVCHD folder, and when it opens and asks for an update, just say no.
I am sure deank will correct this soon!

setarip_old · 31st July 2010, 22:23

Quote:

Sure enough, multiAVCHD is broken. I'll have to install from a previous download and try the update again.

Just change "multiAVCHD.exe_backup" back to "multiAVCHD.exe"...

MrVideo · 31st July 2010, 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

... and when it opens and asks for an update, just say no.

Since it is the latest, the update question is not asked

Don't know why the updater has so much trouble, since a manual download went real smooth.

setarip_old · 31st July 2010, 22:26

@deank

Quote:

There is an option in Subtitles&Audio to convert HD audio to AC3

I was already aware of that - and that option is what led me to ask the question about MA to core ;>}

MrVideo · 31st July 2010, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by setarip_old

Just change "multiAVCHD.exe_backup" back to "multiAVCHD.exe"...

Oh, didn't know it existed. If the updater knows that it failed, maybe it should put it back. In reality, the file shouldn't be renamed until it is known that a good download was completed and that it has what it needs to do the install.

Just a thought.

setarip_old · 31st July 2010, 22:32

Quote:

In reality, the file shouldn't be renamed until it is known that a good download was completed and that it has what it needs to do the install.

If it wasn't renamed BEFORE the downloading began, it would be OVERWRITTEN - and then you'd have no fallback.

Now that you're aware of the file's (probable) existence, why don't you simply try what I suggested?

Capsbackup · 31st July 2010, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by setarip_old

Just change "multiAVCHD.exe_backup" back to "multiAVCHD.exe"...

I was not aware of this, but after checking I do not have this file in my multiAVCHD folder!

MrVideo · 31st July 2010, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by setarip_old

If it wasn't renamed BEFORE the downloading began, it would be OVERWRITTEN - and then you'd have no fallback.

Not really. As indicated in a Dean posting, the RAR file is downloaded. It can be extracted in a temp location. Once the RAR extraction took place without error, then the executable can be renamed and the install begun.

Quote:

Now that you're aware of the file's (probable) existence, why don't you simply try what I suggested?

No need, since I downloaded the latest version manually and did the install, as I posted above. But, I'll know the next time this happens.

Still doesn't mean that the automatic updating process can't be made more bulletproof.

MrVideo · 1st August 2010, 03:37

Ya, I know, I've been posting for a while, but haven't had the time to actually sit down and work on a project. Well, today I am.

I have the latest build (762).

I encoded the H.264 file myself, creating a 1080p23.976 MKV wrapped program. The audio is AC3 - 2.0.

##########

I just crashed mAVCHD getting it to use a chapter list text file. It complained about not being able to read all of the delimited text. It is a text file that was created by VideoReDo and is a simple file with one timecode entry per line. There are eight entries in the format hh:mm:ss:ff. With the frame being 00 through 23.

Why does mAVCHD use 3-place decimals for the frame? That is not industry standard. Is there an option to tell mAVCHD to use the industry timecode standard?

##########

Now I get to start the project over again. This time I will save the project before dealing with the chapter marks.

deank · 1st August 2010, 08:09

I added HH:MM:SS:FR support - you'll get it in the next update.

multiUPDATE is updated to use different servers.
multiAVCHD will automatically download and update multiUPDATE.

rendez2k · 1st August 2010, 09:19

deank - is there any chance you could add an option in fit all to reduce any HD audio to AC3 (as a 1-off setting for that kind of project)? I know theres an overall option for that but for most discs I'm not bothered. However, if I'm trying to fit an MKV on a DVD-5 I do often want to reduce the audio size to get more video bitrate.

Edit: Is fit all even taking the reduce audio setting into account? With it enabled, the bitrate appears to be no different? The suggested DVD5 setting in transcode is much higher than the fit-all suggested bitrate (and the AR appears to be off too!)
http://i29.tinypic.com/xd8k5s.jpg

deank · 1st August 2010, 09:41

When dealing with one title only I'd suggest that you use "Bitrate suggestions" option in [transcode] window. There you get quite accurate bitrate values, taking audio conversion into account.

About the AR: use compliant files. If not - open [transcode] and make sure all is set properly. multiAVCHD can't magically always do everything for everyone and every video file - it is not a one-click-application after all.

JoeH · 1st August 2010, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groucho2004

You should use this for that purpose:
http://www.iol.ie/~schubert/avsexec.zip

This has no user interface (apart from messageboxes for error handling) and just steps through a script frame by frame.

Also, it uses the proper Avisynth API and not VFW.

Let me know if it works.

What type of speed difference does using AVSEXEC / AVSINFO make? Can it be used by normal users of say, MeGUI or other typical X264 encoding programs to speed things up?

31st July 2010, 20:20	#6202 \| Link
deank Programmer (or just 教务长) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 4,251	It certainly can, but most people want per-title options and not per-compilation. There is an option in Subtitles&Audio to convert HD audio to AC3, which should give similar results to what you need. Dean __________________ multiAVCHD - donate \| popBD \| uncropMKV \| mkv2avi \| easySUP

31st July 2010, 20:37	#6204 \| Link
deank Programmer (or just 教务长) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 4,251	multiAVCHD executes multiUPDATE.exe when it needs update. multiUPDATE downloads multiAVCHD.rar, extracts it and launches the extracted multiAVCHD.exe. Dean __________________ multiAVCHD - donate \| popBD \| uncropMKV \| mkv2avi \| easySUP

31st July 2010, 21:11	#6206 \| Link
MrVideo Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,132	Updater errors and suggestion I don't know if the updater logs what it does somewhere, but it had issues with the first place that it tried to go to and failed with the next 4 mirrors. For example: Trying next mirror... Downloading... URL: Mirror#2 HttpSendRequest error HttpQueryInfo: 12019 Error! (0) The HttpQuery error line only showed up with mirror #2. It seems to be downloading from mirror #5, as there are no errors, and nothing else to indicate that it is, or isn't, working. The suggestion: Don't put out a message that it is downloading unless it is really downloading, i.e., the connection was fully established and the file it is after is really being downloaded. In other words, something like: Trying next mirror... URL: Mirror#2 Downloading... Thanks.

31st July 2010, 21:22	#6207 \| Link
MrVideo Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,132	multiAVCHD no longer works Here is the complete session log: Initialising... Checking... Downloading... [14:56:38] Connecting... [14:56:40] Connect failed! [14:56:40] Connecting... [14:56:47] Connect failed! [14:56:47] Connecting... [14:56:49] Connect failed! Error! (500) Trying next mirror... Downloading... URL: Mirror#1 HttpSendRequest error Error! (0) Trying next mirror... Downloading... URL: Mirror#2 HttpSendRequest error HttpQueryInfo: 12019 Error! (0) Trying next mirror... Downloading... URL: Mirror#3 HttpSendRequest error Error! (0) Trying next mirror... Downloading... URL: Mirror#4 HttpSendRequest error Error! (0) Trying next mirror... Downloading... URL: Mirror#5 InternetReadFile failed for http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD.exe Done! After the done, another updater GUI poped up with the following message: (RT) Application "C:\multiAVCHD\multiAVCHD.exe" cannot be executed - Line 148. Sure enough, multiAVCHD is broken. I'll have to install from a previous download and try the update again. Is there a way to make the updating process more robust so that the current installed version isn't corrupted? UPDATE: Tried it again. This time it started the download from mirror #2, But this time got the InternetReadFile failure on the RAR file. multiAVCHD.exe gone again. Third try resulted in the same failure at mirror #2. Going to go fetch the latest version manually. Last edited by MrVideo; 31st July 2010 at 21:50. Reason: Added info

1st August 2010, 03:37	#6216 \| Link
MrVideo Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,132	My First Project Ya, I know, I've been posting for a while, but haven't had the time to actually sit down and work on a project. Well, today I am. I have the latest build (762). I encoded the H.264 file myself, creating a 1080p23.976 MKV wrapped program. The audio is AC3 - 2.0. ########## I just crashed mAVCHD getting it to use a chapter list text file. It complained about not being able to read all of the delimited text. It is a text file that was created by VideoReDo and is a simple file with one timecode entry per line. There are eight entries in the format hh:mm:ss:ff. With the frame being 00 through 23. Why does mAVCHD use 3-place decimals for the frame? That is not industry standard. Is there an option to tell mAVCHD to use the industry timecode standard? ########## Now I get to start the project over again. This time I will save the project before dealing with the chapter marks. Last edited by MrVideo; 1st August 2010 at 07:41. Reason: Removed pieces that I found the answers for

31st July 2010, 20:17	#6201 \| Link
setarip_old Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 16,267	As my mother used to say, "Take your eyes in your hands and look!" Talk about hiding in plain sight ;>} Thanks - But why CAN'T it be another "per-title" option? It only takes effect if such a track is discovered, just like the other default audio settings, doesn't it?

31st July 2010, 21:56	#6208 \| Link
Capsbackup Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,995	This just happened to me too. I had another copy, so just copied that into multiAVCHD folder, and when it opens and asks for an update, just say no. I am sure deank will correct this soon!

1st August 2010, 08:09	#6217 \| Link
deank Programmer (or just 教务长) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 4,251	I added HH:MM:SS:FR support - you'll get it in the next update. multiUPDATE is updated to use different servers. multiAVCHD will automatically download and update multiUPDATE. __________________ multiAVCHD - donate \| popBD \| uncropMKV \| mkv2avi \| easySUP Last edited by deank; 1st August 2010 at 08:35.

1st August 2010, 09:19	#6218 \| Link
rendez2k Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 625	deank - is there any chance you could add an option in fit all to reduce any HD audio to AC3 (as a 1-off setting for that kind of project)? I know theres an overall option for that but for most discs I'm not bothered. However, if I'm trying to fit an MKV on a DVD-5 I do often want to reduce the audio size to get more video bitrate. Edit: Is fit all even taking the reduce audio setting into account? With it enabled, the bitrate appears to be no different? The suggested DVD5 setting in transcode is much higher than the fit-all suggested bitrate (and the AR appears to be off too!) http://i29.tinypic.com/xd8k5s.jpg Last edited by rendez2k; 1st August 2010 at 09:36.

1st August 2010, 09:41	#6219 \| Link
deank Programmer (or just 教务长) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 4,251	When dealing with one title only I'd suggest that you use "Bitrate suggestions" option in [transcode] window. There you get quite accurate bitrate values, taking audio conversion into account. About the AR: use compliant files. If not - open [transcode] and make sure all is set properly. multiAVCHD can't magically always do everything for everyone and every video file - it is not a one-click-application after all. __________________ multiAVCHD - donate \| popBD \| uncropMKV \| mkv2avi \| easySUP Last edited by deank; 1st August 2010 at 10:18.