smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer

[odin24]

Originally Posted by madshi

It will demux the first DTS track in the m2ts file. If there's no DTS track, it will transcode the first audio track in the m2ts file.


Surcode sometimes creates DTS files with zero padding which tsMuxeR doesn't like. You don't need to run them through mkvmerge/extract. Instead just run them through eac3to again. That's much faster...

Thanks madshi and rica, will do.

Also, even though I will continue to use the GUIs it is still good to know that piece of information about the command line process... thanks again.

[veggav]

Originally Posted by setarip_old

@veggav

Hi!

I don't have an answer for you, but I'm curious to understand how and why you created the .MKV file as other than 720p compliant (or at least all MOD16)?

Because, most of the downloaded movies on mkv format are ripped from a blu-ray that has anamorphic widescreen and to reduce the size of the file they cut part of the black bars up and down.
That's why it's not blu-ray compilant.
I've heard that there is a way to re-add the bars but it need to re-enconde and seems very complicated.

There is any solution for a movie like 1280x588 get back to 1280x720 ?

[hdpete]

Originally Posted by rica

OK, the recipe is eac3to

eac3to.exe "input folder\input file (*.m2ts)" track no: "output folder\output file (*.wavs)"

Like this:

eac3to v2.57
command line: eac3to\eac3to.exe  "F:\BD name\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts" 2: "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm_out.wavs"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 9 audio tracks, 27 subtitle tracks, 2:19:11
1: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: RAW/PCM, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
3: TrueHD/AC3, 5.1 channels, 48khz
4: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -25dB
5: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz
6: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -30dB
7: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz
8: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -28dB
9: AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
10: AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
11: Subtitle (PGS)
12: Subtitle (PGS)
13: Subtitle (PGS)
14: Subtitle (PGS)
............
[a02] Extracting audio track number 2...
[a02] Reading RAW/PCM...
[a02] Swapping endian...
[a02] Remapping channels...
[a02] Writing WAVs...

[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm_out.R.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm_out.C.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm_out.LFE.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm_out.SL.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm_out.SR.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm_out.L.wav"...

Video track 1 contains 200231 frames.
eac3to processing took 29 minutes, 39 seconds.
Done.

Rica and others, thanks for your help, with a bit of experimenting I've found out where I was going wrong with the command prompts (not used to using them).

eac3to seems to be doing the job now.

Cheers

[hdpete]

Now that I know how to use eac3to, if I convert a HD DVD video only using RipBot264 and seperatley use eac3to to convert the DD+ sountrack to WAVs and Surcode to DTS, will the resulting audio sync with the video coverted to Blu-Ray format by Ripbot? Cheers.

[odin24]

Originally Posted by hdpete

Now that I know how to use eac3to, if I convert a HD DVD video only using RipBot264 and seperatley use eac3to to convert the DD+ sountrack to WAVs and Surcode to DTS, will the resulting audio sync with the video coverted to Blu-Ray format by Ripbot? Cheers.

It will, but you will need to remove the pulldown from the HDDVD video stream before you run it through ripbot... I'm not sure how using ripbot. I do this through tsMuxeR then recode using MeGUI.

[hdpete]

Originally Posted by madshi

Surcode sometimes creates DTS files with zero padding which tsMuxeR doesn't like. You don't need to run them through mkvmerge/extract. Instead just run them through eac3to again. That's much faster...

Sorry to be nieve, but when you say run the dts file through eac3to, what do you mean, please show a command example. Thanks

[sehgal.v7]

Can anyone share what's error -1073741819 & it's solution?

[rica]

Originally Posted by hdpete

sorry to be nieve, but when you say run the dts file through eac3to, what do you mean, please show a command example. Thanks

Originally Posted by rica

yes i always use this:

eac3to input.dts output.dts

note: Input file is dts created by eac3to -re-encoded into dts via surcode- (or extracted by eac3to directly), output file is dts again which has revized by eac3to.

ok ?

[rica]

Let me clarify a little bit more:

Extracting re-encoding lpcm to dts (via surcode) with eac3to:

eac3to v2.57
command line: eac3to\eac3to.exe  "F:\SPIDER_MAN_3\BDMV\STREAM\New Folder\00011.m2ts" 2: "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm.dts"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 9 audio tracks, 27 subtitle tracks, 2:19:11
1: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: RAW/PCM, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
3: TrueHD/AC3, 5.1 channels, 48khz
4: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -25dB

*************
[a02] Extracting audio track number 2...
[a02] Reading RAW/PCM...
[a02] Swapping endian...
[a02] Remapping channels...
[a02] Writing WAVs...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm.R.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm.L.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm.SL.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm.C.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm.LFE.wav"...
[a02] Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm.SR.wav"...
Found Surcode DTS Encoder version 1.0.21.0.
Surcode encoding successfully started. Please wait...
Closing Surcode...
Video track 1 contains 200231 frames.
eac3to processing took 27 minutes, 58 seconds.
Surcode encoding took 21 minutes, 43 seconds.
Done.

Trying to open with TSMuxer:





Lets revize that dts with eac3to:

eac3to v2.57
command line: eac3to\eac3to.exe  "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\lpcm.dts" "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\out.dts"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DTS, 5.1 channels, 2:19:11, 24 bits, 1536kbit/s, 48khz

Removing DTS zero padding...

Creating file "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Try\out.dts"...
eac3to processing took 1 minute, 49 seconds.
Done.

Now it's ready to be opened by TSMuxer after "zero padding removal":

[EPiPH0NE]

^^^

Eac3to should be doing the zero padding removal from the start :?

[rica]

Originally Posted by EPiPH0NE

^^^

Eac3to should be doing the zero padding removal from the start :?

No; you see.
BTW, here in first step eac3to just extracts (or dumps ) waves and later surcode takes the job from eac3to for re-encoding and surcode itsellf creates this zero padding. So until surcode encodes, eac3to has nothing to remove.

In second step eac3to this time removes that

[odin24]

Originally Posted by rica

No; you see.
BTW, here in first step eac3to just extracts (or dumps ) waves and later surcode takes the job from eac3to for re-encoding and surcode itsellf creates this zero padding. So until surcode encodes, eac3to has nothing to remove.

In second step eac3to this time removes that

Is removing the zero padding with eac3to the same thing as running through mkvtoolnix? Obviously the command line method is far more easier and faster, I was just wondering if it was the same result just different methods.

[rica]

Originally Posted by odin24

Is removing the zero padding with eac3to the same thing as running through mkvtoolnix? Obviously the command line method is far more easier and faster, I was just wondering if it was the same result just different methods.

Mkvtoolnix directly accepts the dts without zero padding removal; but really to me, mkv is just an intermediate format(sorry it was a container) which i'll never use finally but for just creating non-remuxed final re-encodes with MeGui.
CMD method is the best way if you don't need to type lots of parameters (i 'd newer prefer x264 in command line) and bla-bla...

[EPiPH0NE]

Originally Posted by rica

No; you see.
BTW, here in first step eac3to just extracts (or dumps ) waves and later surcode takes the job from eac3to for re-encoding and surcode itsellf creates this zero padding. So until surcode encodes, eac3to has nothing to remove.

In second step eac3to this time removes that

Every time I have done source -> DTS with eac3to, at least 100+ times, zero padding removal has always been automatic and I have never had to re-run the DTS through eac3to for the zero padding to be removed so someone is doing something wrong here.

[hdpete]

HD DVD's - I've demuxed the video and audio (usually Dolby Digital Plus) using EVOdemux, fixed the video using either vc1conv or h264info and added the resulting fixed video file to TSMuxer. I change the file extension of the demuxed DD+ soundtrack to .ac3 and then add that to TSMuxer. Then mux together to form a blu-ray file.
Whilst the audio shows as DD+ in TSMuxer, I'm not sure that this is compliant blu-ray audio, until I play the resulting BD-R back through a standalone player connected to my Onkyo amp via HDMI I can't be sure.
I don't really want to convert the DD+ to wavs and then DTS via Surcode, as you are already converting a compressed lossy soundtrack so the resulting DTS track won't be as good as the original DD+.
Does anyone know about the comapatability of DD+ with blu-ray, is there something I need to do to the audio before?
Thanks for your help.

[rica]

Originally Posted by EPiPH0NE

Every time I have done source -> DTS with eac3to, at least 100+ times, zero padding removal has always been automatic and I have never had to re-run the DTS through eac3to for the zero padding to be removed so someone is doing something wrong here.

Codes are above...

[madshi]

Originally Posted by EPiPH0NE

Every time I have done source -> DTS with eac3to, at least 100+ times, zero padding removal has always been automatic and I have never had to re-run the DTS through eac3to for the zero padding to be removed so someone is doing something wrong here.

I think it depends on the Surcode version.

[odin24]

Originally Posted by hdpete

HD DVD's - I've demuxed the video and audio (usually Dolby Digital Plus) using EVOdemux, fixed the video using either vc1conv or h264info and added the resulting fixed video file to TSMuxer. I change the file extension of the demuxed DD+ soundtrack to .ac3 and then add that to TSMuxer. Then mux together to form a blu-ray file.
Whilst the audio shows as DD+ in TSMuxer, I'm not sure that this is compliant blu-ray audio, until I play the resulting BD-R back through a standalone player connected to my Onkyo amp via HDMI I can't be sure.
I don't really want to convert the DD+ to wavs and then DTS via Surcode, as you are already converting a compressed lossy soundtrack so the resulting DTS track won't be as good as the original DD+.
Does anyone know about the comapatability of DD+ with blu-ray, is there something I need to do to the audio before?
Thanks for your help.

DD+ is not a compliant BD stream and should be changed to either AC3 or DTS. Usually DD+ is at 1536kb/s so you're not losing any bitrate when recoding to DTS @ 1536kb/s. Also, the wavs extracted from the DD+ stream are uncompressed, the Dolby Digital and DTS formats are what make them lossy.

When you demux using EVOdemux you set the extension of the audio stream to AC3 regardless of what type of Dolby it is. Same with subtitles, set as .sup... run through SUPread to convert to HDDVD .sup to BD .sup.

Don't forget, when demuxing using EVOdemux to "Read XPL" before demuxing, the will auto-join the two Feature_EVO's and identify languages of the streams.

EDIT: Besides removing the pulldown, are you recoding your HDDVD vc1 or h264 video stream before muxing to BD?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Here's some info regarding DolbyDigital+ (EAC3) audio spec compliance for Blu-ray and HD-DVD: -

[odin24]

Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

Here's some info regarding DolbyDigital+ (EAC3) audio spec compliance for Blu-ray and HD-DVD: -

OK, I stand corrected... sort of. You cannot just take a HDDVD eac3 track and import it directly to a BD, however BD does support a limited eac3.

Thanks for the clarification SeeMoreDigital.

@ hdpete,
I'm not sure, or even if this is possible, how to take a HDDVD DD+ track and make it a DD+ BD compliant stream, AC3 core with DD+ data.