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2nd October 2012, 06:19 | #14301 | Link | |
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I need to do a lot more testing as there have been several changes made since I last had a chance to properly evaluate it. Hardware problems meant I was unable to, and I've still been too busy to do anything like that recently. (haven't even had the time to sit and watch a whole film yet!) From preliminary testing, it seems to be a positive thing overall. Right now, I like SoftCubic 50 with Anti-ringing for Luma upscaling (previously SoftCubic 80) and Bicubic 75 with anti-ringing for Chroma upscaling. This is going to take a lot of testing though, as there are so many more variables now, but I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up with those as being my preference again. What is likely to change, is which of the sharper algorithms end up working best with the anti-ringing function. Now that its strength has been reduced, to reduce artefacts, I don't know that I'd recommend Lanczos. The Bicubic variants all seem to do quite well with it. I don't normally like Catmull-Rom, but it seemed like that maybe had potential, or you could just go with Bicubic 75 which is always a safe bet. (even without the anti-ring filter, it's one of the better choices to balance sharpness and artefacts) EDIT: Actually now I'm not so sure. The very next thing I loaded up, is showing clear aliasing with many of the Bicubic variants for luma upscaling, including SoftCubic 50. This is why I need time to do proper testing... Last edited by 6233638; 2nd October 2012 at 06:28. |
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(1) delete log file (if there is any) (2) start media player (3) start playback in FSE mode (4) make sure the madVR debug OSD is *on* (Ctrl+J) (5) show the PotPlayer seekbar (6) wait 5 seconds, while the seekbar is visible (7) close PotPlayer (8) zip the log file If I can look at those log files from different madVR versions which behave differently, then maybe I can figure out what's going on. Quote:
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In which situation did this freeze occur? It seems that PotPlayer contains *some* debug information, but it appears to be rather incomplete. Because of that the use of the freeze report is of limited use, unfortunately. Is that the latest PotPlayer build? Quote:
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2nd October 2012, 11:20 | #14303 | Link |
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We're talking about fullscreen exclusive mode here, right? I can't seem to be able to reproduce the problem on my win7 x64 PC in FSE mode. Can I have a log file, please? Let the dropping continue for 10 seconds, then stop the media player. Thx.
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2nd October 2012, 11:54 | #14304 | Link |
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Ok, I've found the change which is responsible for the effect you've been reporting. I'll undo that change in the next build. Unfortunately I'm not sure why I implemented that change in the first place, so I hope there won't be any negative side effects...
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2nd October 2012, 15:08 | #14307 | Link | |
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I'm testing 0.83.7 now, which I haven't done yet, to make sure this didn't somehow get resolved in the latest version. |
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One thing though, when i move the mouse over the seekbar i see for a split seccond your seekbar. Quote:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ye2h9x Last edited by vomanci; 2nd October 2012 at 15:21. |
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2nd October 2012, 15:53 | #14309 | Link |
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I half expected this. The logs say that there's a window covering the madVR window. That's why madVR leaves FSE mode. It's as intended. If you don't want this to happen, you have to reconfigure PotPlayer. There are some options in PotPlayer that allow madVR to stay in FSE mode. Don't ask me how these options are named, though, I don't know.
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2nd October 2012, 16:55 | #14311 | Link | |
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There is another bug whereby if I open a window whilst FSE is running the window does not - always - appear (But it is really there). If you move the window (blindly) it will appear. Also minimizing the window makes the window appear (But it's now not there and is minimized so clicking on it or trying to move it then does nothing until you maximize it again). Not sure if this is a Windows/Nvidia bug though. EDIT: There is another bug I forgot. If you bring up a filter window that pops up on the playback screen and try to drag it over to another display and use it. After 3 seconds the new window becomes locked out/dead. It's there but I cannot appear to make use of it. I will edit this again or reply if I can demonstrate this as I can't recall which filters do this. EDIT: I just tried loading LAV Audio Decoder. It pops up on the playback display (My HDTV). If I drag the window to my primary PC display after 3 seconds I am unable to do anything within that window other than move it about. All the functions become unusable. This is not unique to LAV as it occurs in other filters. Last edited by oddball; 2nd October 2012 at 17:07. |
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EDIT: It's not the player. Tried older versions since 4 stable releases back and the same thing, they don't work in FSE but they used to. So it has to be something on my machine, but i can't figure out what. Thank you. Last edited by vomanci; 2nd October 2012 at 18:20. |
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3rd October 2012, 01:22 | #14315 | Link |
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For FSE in Potplayer:
General - Skin - Control - Method = Disable This works for me. Any method besides disable (D3D9 or Image Overlay) will not allow MadVR to go FSE for me. Speaking of FSE: I don't use it right now because my card is quite capable. That being said, I would love to if I could get MKV bookmarks on to the timeline! |
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The debug file you asked for can be found here: http://sdrv.ms/P9pWXC Hope this helps ...
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3rd October 2012, 09:43 | #14317 | Link | |
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http://madshi.net/madVR837test.rar Does either of them fix the problem (if so, which)? If neither of them fixes the problem, please double check whether the problem also occurs with v0.83.1, which you can download here: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/madVR/old-versions#download Last edited by madshi; 3rd October 2012 at 09:45. |
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3rd October 2012, 12:22 | #14318 | Link |
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Here's a new ZP build that should show a proper error message instead of the OLE error message: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/104094858/zplayer_madExcept3.rar Let me know which error message you see, it may help me track down the issue. Madshi: Do you think you can add image orientation (rotation) feature into MadVR API? Something similar to the JPEG EXIF orientation modes: http://sylvana.net/jpegcrop/exif_orientation.html With all the people capturing video using their cellphones, I get requests for this feature every so often. I asked nev to do it in the decoder, but he says it should be done in the renderer. Lastly, do you think you can support the IQualProp interface in MadVR? I already support it for all other renderers and it would be nice for the users to get this info without having to enable MadVR's OSD display. Last edited by Blight; 3rd October 2012 at 12:32. |
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@Blight, I've image rotation and IQualProp on my to do list already. Although for image rotation currently I was only planning to support monitor rotation. I suppose you'd like to tell madVR to manually rotate the image in 90, 180, 270 degrees?
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