madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 2848

Asmodian · 25th July 2019, 23:14

Sorry, smooth motion is the frame blending I mentioned. Smooth motion syncs to the audio even more perfectly than with it off, the difference is unimportant but smooth motion is the most accurate.

You will not have any sync issues when using smooth motion.

ScrooW · 25th July 2019, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmodian

Sorry, smooth motion is the frame blending I mentioned. Smooth motion syncs to the audio even more perfectly than with it off, the difference is unimportant but smooth motion is the most accurate.

You will not have any sync issues when using smooth motion.

Thank you so much for your attention and patience.

XTrojan · 27th July 2019, 23:21

Hi! Been reading around here in the forums about OS HDR vs Nvidia HDR. Is it still recommended to use NV HDR over OS HDR or are they the same thing by now? I've red that OS HDR handles everything by itself and sends no metadata but other posters have disputed this.

Asmodian · 28th July 2019, 00:04

As far as I am aware the situation has not changed in anyway. Use NV HDR because Windows' is a one size fits all solution that will mess with the video while madVR can control Nvidia's HDR.

-Michael- · 28th July 2019, 17:36

Is it possible to save a movie with the settings of madvr? For example, if I have an SD video, can I convert it to HD with the madvr upscaler?

huhn · 28th July 2019, 18:07

this is practical possible but madVR is not design for that and there are multiply problems with recording.

-Michael- · 28th July 2019, 18:15

How can this be done?

-Michael- · 28th July 2019, 18:24

It would be wonderful madvr could be used with premiere adobe or other similar software. Until now, I haven't found any software that makes the upscaler like Madvr. Precisely for this reason I asked if there is a way to save a movie using the madvr upscaler.

el Filou · 28th July 2019, 18:52

If you use a screen recorder that outputs AVC or HEVC using the hardware encoders available with modern graphics cards, or something like FRAPS if you want lossless output (other better apps can be available, I haven't followed recent development), you should be able to grab the result of madVR rendering that way. I've never tested it so can't guarantee the results, try it.
madVR outputs with Direct3D so it should work like when recording a game. (Edit: the only exception is if you use overlay rendering, I think)

Annisman · 29th July 2019, 00:43

Hey guys, when I play 4K HDR content MadVR (cntrl+j) reads 'BT2020 -> DCI-P3.... Can someone tell me is this what I want ? What does that mean ?

Asmodian · 29th July 2019, 00:51

It means the content is DCI-P3 gamut inside BT.2020 format video. This is normal and what you want in that situation.

Annisman · 29th July 2019, 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmodian

It means the content is DCI-P3 gamut inside BT.2020 format video. This is normal and what you want in that situation.

Thank you friend

-Michael- · 29th July 2019, 07:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by el Filou

If you use a screen recorder that outputs AVC or HEVC using the hardware encoders available with modern graphics cards, or something like FRAPS (....)

I tried to record with Bandicam and managed to capture the video stream. Thank you.

I make a proposal to the developer: If you make MadVr available as a plug-in for Adobe press, Magix video deluxe and Pro X, etc. etc. you will make many people happy.

In addition to the plug in, a simple converter to save a movie directly with MadVr (stand alone), would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your work so far. Hoi tried many programs to make the video upscaler, but MadVr, for me, is the best ever.

cremor · 29th July 2019, 07:28

I don't have experience with this, but aren't there upscalers for video encoders that are far better than what madVR can do? madVR upscalers are limited to what can be done in real time, but an upscaler designed for video encoding is allowed to be far slower - and therefore might have a higher quality.

huhn · 29th July 2019, 09:37

they usually use the CPU and are not even close.

vapoursynth/avisynth integration is or at least was a planned feature.

Klaus1189 · 29th July 2019, 11:01

But why are these not even close?

mrmojo666 · 29th July 2019, 12:03

Microsoft released a fox for banding 10bit
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4505903

Hope it helps

huhn · 29th July 2019, 12:10

i can't find a single line that talks about banding.
"Updates an issue that may display colors incorrectly when viewing an image on 10-bit display panels." this should have nothing todo with it. the problem is present on all types of display from 6 to 10 bit.
@Klaus1189
image processing is super slow on a CPU even a mainstream GPU is a lot faster then a high end GPU.

there is waifux2 which is "better" but i hope you have time a lot of time.

Alexkral · 29th July 2019, 12:17

I think CNN super-resolution could be used for video encoding, I have no idea why this has not been developed. Maybe you need lossless or very high bitrate encoding to notice the difference.

huhn · 29th July 2019, 12:23

nnedi3 is a neural network scaler waifux2 is one and NGU is nearly for sure also trained by a NN too.
there even is nvidia DLSS with questionable quality.

25th July 2019, 23:14	#56941 \| Link
Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	Sorry, smooth motion is the frame blending I mentioned. Smooth motion syncs to the audio even more perfectly than with it off, the difference is unimportant but smooth motion is the most accurate. You will not have any sync issues when using smooth motion. __________________ madVR options explained

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Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	As far as I am aware the situation has not changed in anyway. Use NV HDR because Windows' is a one size fits all solution that will mess with the video while madVR can control Nvidia's HDR. __________________ madVR options explained

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-Michael- Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4	Is it possible to save a movie with the settings of madvr? Is it possible to save a movie with the settings of madvr? For example, if I have an SD video, can I convert it to HD with the madvr upscaler?

28th July 2019, 18:52	#56949 \| Link
el Filou Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 896	If you use a screen recorder that outputs AVC or HEVC using the hardware encoders available with modern graphics cards, or something like FRAPS if you want lossless output (other better apps can be available, I haven't followed recent development), you should be able to grab the result of madVR rendering that way. I've never tested it so can't guarantee the results, try it. madVR outputs with Direct3D so it should work like when recording a game. (Edit: the only exception is if you use overlay rendering, I think) __________________ HTPC: Windows 10 22H2, MediaPortal 1, LAV Filters/ReClock/madVR. DVB-C TV, Panasonic GT60, Denon 2310, Core 2 Duo E7400 oc'd, GeForce 1050 Ti 536.40

29th July 2019, 00:51	#56951 \| Link
Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	It means the content is DCI-P3 gamut inside BT.2020 format video. This is normal and what you want in that situation. __________________ madVR options explained

27th July 2019, 23:21	#56943 \| Link
XTrojan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 88	Hi! Been reading around here in the forums about OS HDR vs Nvidia HDR. Is it still recommended to use NV HDR over OS HDR or are they the same thing by now? I've red that OS HDR handles everything by itself and sends no metadata but other posters have disputed this.

28th July 2019, 18:07	#56946 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,921	this is practical possible but madVR is not design for that and there are multiply problems with recording.

28th July 2019, 18:15	#56947 \| Link
-Michael- Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4	How can this be done?

28th July 2019, 18:24	#56948 \| Link
-Michael- Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4	It would be wonderful madvr could be used with premiere adobe or other similar software. Until now, I haven't found any software that makes the upscaler like Madvr. Precisely for this reason I asked if there is a way to save a movie using the madvr upscaler.

29th July 2019, 00:43	#56950 \| Link
Annisman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 5	Hey guys, when I play 4K HDR content MadVR (cntrl+j) reads 'BT2020 -> DCI-P3.... Can someone tell me is this what I want ? What does that mean ?

29th July 2019, 07:28	#56954 \| Link
cremor Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 81	I don't have experience with this, but aren't there upscalers for video encoders that are far better than what madVR can do? madVR upscalers are limited to what can be done in real time, but an upscaler designed for video encoding is allowed to be far slower - and therefore might have a higher quality.

29th July 2019, 09:37	#56955 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,921	they usually use the CPU and are not even close. vapoursynth/avisynth integration is or at least was a planned feature.

29th July 2019, 11:01	#56956 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	But why are these not even close?

29th July 2019, 12:03	#56957 \| Link
mrmojo666 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 107	Microsoft released a fox for banding 10bit https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4505903 Hope it helps __________________ AMD Ry 1500x - 8GB - RX460 4GB TV Philips 55pus6501+ Marantz 1608 avr WIN10(1903) 4K/444RGB Mediaportal - Mpc-hc MADVR-D3D11/10bit

29th July 2019, 12:10	#56958 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,921	i can't find a single line that talks about banding. "Updates an issue that may display colors incorrectly when viewing an image on 10-bit display panels." this should have nothing todo with it. the problem is present on all types of display from 6 to 10 bit. @Klaus1189 image processing is super slow on a CPU even a mainstream GPU is a lot faster then a high end GPU. there is waifux2 which is "better" but i hope you have time a lot of time.

29th July 2019, 12:17	#56959 \| Link
Alexkral Registered User Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 323	I think CNN super-resolution could be used for video encoding, I have no idea why this has not been developed. Maybe you need lossless or very high bitrate encoding to notice the difference.

29th July 2019, 12:23	#56960 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,921	nnedi3 is a neural network scaler waifux2 is one and NGU is nearly for sure also trained by a NN too. there even is nvidia DLSS with questionable quality.

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