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Old 20th February 2019, 14:16   #54881  |  Link
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So which decoder should I use?

I 'm talking about AVC files, I only download a sample of HEVC file.

Can someone post a screenshot of mpc->options->internal filters?
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Old 20th February 2019, 14:24   #54882  |  Link
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DXVA2 copy-back

Just enable all internal filters.
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Old 20th February 2019, 14:27   #54883  |  Link
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Ah ok, well I guess thats where all these guides and comments mess things up, as usually its the first thing people recommend.
i know and will have a bright future one day but that day isn't here yet and there is nothing nev can do about the issue is on madVR side.

DXVA copyback or D3D11 copyback whatever works best for you.

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So which decoder should I use?

I 'm talking about AVC files, I only download a sample of HEVC file.

Can someone post a screenshot of mpc->options->internal filters?
the mpc->option->internal filter should be left at default default settings are default for a reason.

there is an rumour that intel HD 4600 can do HEVC 8 bit which should be rarely of any use but still.

so D3D11 copyback with HD 4600 should give you the most powerful decoder on your system.
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Old 20th February 2019, 14:27   #54884  |  Link
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So which decoder should I use?

I 'm talking about AVC files, I only download a sample of HEVC file.

Can someone post a screenshot of mpc->options->internal filters?
Yeah lets not talk about this part...

"I have a 4690k and r9 290 and I know(because I have seen it) that madvr did't behave with the same way in the past."

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Old 20th February 2019, 14:41   #54885  |  Link
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i know and will have a bright future one day but that day isn't here yet and there is nothing nev can do about the issue is on madVR side.

DXVA copyback or D3D11 copyback whatever works best for you.


the mpc->option->internal filter should be left at default default settings are default for a reason.

there is an rumour that intel HD 4600 can do HEVC 8 bit which should be rarely of any use but still.

so D3D11 copyback with HD 4600 should give you the most powerful decoder on your system.
Asked because I have seen some guides that disable everything in transformation filters part.
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Old 20th February 2019, 14:49   #54886  |  Link
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the internet is a wild place and there are reason to do that i even have disabled them myself.
but and that important it there is no reason todo that if you are not playing around with test/beta version and testing other stuff.

the internal lavfilter version is fine. if there is a major change you can count on clsid that he will release a new mpc-hc version that is updated.
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Old 20th February 2019, 14:50   #54887  |  Link
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Pretty much every guide out there is full of bad advice.

As a rule of thumb:
Don't change any default settings unless you understand what a setting does and why changing it makes things better for you.
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Old 20th February 2019, 15:01   #54888  |  Link
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@alexnt If it still happens after the whole reinstall and reset settings, post a screenshot of Task Manager's 'details' tab sorted by CPU usage.
You can also get Process Explorer from the Windows SysInternals tools suite to get more details
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Old 20th February 2019, 15:19   #54889  |  Link
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@alexnt If it still happens after the whole reinstall and reset settings, post a screenshot of Task Manager's 'details' tab sorted by CPU usage.
You can also get Process Explorer from the Windows SysInternals tools suite to get more details
I think we know why the CPU is so active now

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AMD r9 290 does not support hardware acceleration of HEVC/H.265, nor does it do 4K H.264. So that's the simple reason for high CPU usage.
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Old 20th February 2019, 16:06   #54890  |  Link
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OK guys I believe I found the culprit. It was that key in registry.
Everything works as intended though I tested through remote desktop. I told you that it was not a normal behavior.
Thank you all for your time.

Why the uninstaller doesn't remove that key???

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Old 20th February 2019, 16:16   #54891  |  Link
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would you risk deleting advances profiles from user just by installing the software? some have advanced uninstall options for that but i would leave it there.

and the real way to reset setting isn't uninstalling software it is using the reset option.
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Old 20th February 2019, 16:19   #54892  |  Link
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would you risk deleting advances profiles from user just by installing the software? some have advanced uninstall options for that but i would leave it there.

and the real way to reset setting isn't uninstalling software it is using the reset option.
reset didn't do the job
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Old 20th February 2019, 16:22   #54893  |  Link
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reset didn't do the job
Surely your CPU usage will still be the same as your card does not decode these files, and thats what your original query was ?
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No the cpu usage is not the same as I don't have hevc files. My movies are avc except for that hevc sample I downloaded yesterday for testing purposes. I ll upload a video proof later.
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restore default settings.bat

this resets madVR including the registry you can find it in the madVR folder.
next you are playing an HEVC file with an R9 200 series card? then the CPU has to do the work this GPU doesn't support HEVC. the video has to be decoded that'S not madVR job.

there are settings that can use quite a lot of CPU cycles.one would be black bar detection.

and don't recommend DXVA native with it madVR can't deal with interlaced content at all. as long as this isn't fixed it shouldn't be blindly recommended to user if there is an alternative that works with all kind of normal content.
On one of my pcs, the restore setting. bat actually doesn't work. It's weird, and I never figured out why it didn't work ?

I've never moved the directories, so where are these settings stored ?
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i know and will have a bright future one day but that day isn't here yet and there is nothing nev can do about the issue is on madVR side.

DXVA copyback or D3D11 copyback whatever works best for you.


the mpc->option->internal filter should be left at default default settings are default for a reason.

there is an rumour that intel HD 4600 can do HEVC 8 bit which should be rarely of any use but still.

so D3D11 copyback with HD 4600 should give you the most powerful decoder on your system.

Wait wait wait,, I thought the Great Huhn, Only recommends DX11. no one dare challenge Great huhn

Under what case does Dxva2 work better than DX11
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Old 20th February 2019, 16:34   #54897  |  Link
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No the cpu usage is not the same as I don't have hevc files. My movies are avc except for that hevc sample I downloaded yesterday for testing purposes. I ll upload a video proof later.
No its fine I believe you, but it looked like you were playing h.264 files in the screenshots and I thought the card could not decode them, but I just read something that said it can, but still not sure about the CPU.

As long as you are happy thats all that matters
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Old 20th February 2019, 16:47   #54898  |  Link
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reset didn't do the job
did you try it as an admin?
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No the cpu usage is not the same as I don't have hevc files. My movies are avc except for that hevc sample I downloaded yesterday for testing purposes. I ll upload a video proof later.
no need for a video proof i already said stuff like blackbar detection can eat CPU cycles which is off by default there are other things too.

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Wait wait wait,, I thought the Great Huhn, Only recommends DX11. no one dare challenge Great huhn
why don't you quote me on that with context?
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https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...ostcount=54917
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Old 20th February 2019, 16:48   #54899  |  Link
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No its fine I believe you, but it looked like you were playing h.264 files in the screenshots and I thought the card could not decode them, but I just read something that said it can, but still not sure about the CPU.

As long as you are happy thats all that matters
I play 264 indeed, not 265. My gpu can't decode 265 as I was informed today.

If I have time I will upload this video.

Thanks again for the reg key
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did you try it as an admin?

no need for a video proof i already said stuff like blackbar detection can eat CPU cycles which is off by default there are other things too.


why don't you quote me on that with context?

https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...ostcount=54917
So is DX11, the Go-To under all circumstances outside of Interlaced.
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