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16th November 2011, 20:13 | #10981 | Link |
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In windowed mode, with SD interlaced video material, if I leave queues to default, the render queue starves and backbuffer queue is very low (0-3/6) and I get a dropped frame about every 10 seconds. If I bump GPU/CPU queues up to 14, then render queue goes to a consistent 3-5, bb queue is still low, 1-3, but it doesn't drop frames.
HD6570 (1GB), not using 3dLUT, upscaling to 1920x1080 Last edited by noee; 16th November 2011 at 20:15. |
16th November 2011, 20:14 | #10982 | Link |
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I'm still investigating to see if there are any benefits under heavy load. If my previous deinterlacing testing are any sign, there does seem to be a benefit in never having your CPU queue (including fluctuations) drop below the maximum GPU queue.
As for harm, I seem to be getting more delayed frames than usual in this build (see edit above), but that may be the same bug as Xaurus is experiencing? I'm getting the feeling that setting higher CPU queue causes an increased likelihood of delayed/dropped frames in combination with Flush&Wait settings because of increased CPU contention. It also seems like setting higher GPU queue occasionally causes an increased delay when seeking or resizing with 'Wait till render queues are full' setting is enabled or dropped/delayed frames when it's not enabled. Last edited by cyberbeing; 16th November 2011 at 20:18. |
16th November 2011, 20:42 | #10983 | Link |
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Having it auto adjust is pretty bad for glitches, having it set highly is too. 8/8 for both (same as b4) is about the same as b4 (obviously). Setting it to 4 (and limit render times/render in another thread set) for both though results in very few glitches at all. This is at 48/59 hz with 12 pre-presented frames. 16 pre-presented frames + limit rendering times and 8/8 for CPU/GPU (which is what i've used on previous versions of madvr) seems better on 24/29, as there seemed to be a dropped frame or two (probably the que being too low or something?) on the other settings that worked good for 48/59.
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at least that shift used to be there in fullscreen exclusive mode. Ill report back in case it should come back :S (I can only choose to activate or deactivate dynamic range btw., not set anything like 16-235) Quote:
in ffdshow, I can at least tell to use TFM() first via avisynth before sharpening, because I can set the order of being processed for these two. but where in this chain comes madvr scaling and dxva2 deinterlacing into play? and how could I change that order if I needed to?
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16th November 2011, 22:25 | #10986 | Link | |
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Decoder queue: 22-14/24 (stable, never moves) Upload queue: 16-18/24 (can move around abit especially after a window resize etc) Deinterlace queue: always moving values between say 9-13 and 10-14/24 Render queue: always moving values between say 8-11 and 10-13/24 Backbuffer queue: 7-8/8 (stable, never moves) The increase in CPU/GPU settings seems to give enough buffer to handle the changes in the intermediate queues and keep the Backbuffer Queue Stable. EDIT: YMMV, but on my system, just raising the GPU Queue Size from 8 to 12 was all that was needed and seems a good balance between stability and GPU Mem usage (709/1024). At this setting all queues as stable as well. Last edited by jmone; 16th November 2011 at 22:30. |
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16th November 2011, 22:45 | #10987 | Link |
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Feel free to use any MPEG2 file you have. HD preferably. You could decode the file to a lossless format using DSS2 with Dscaler's and LAV's decoder and then use Subtract to emphasize the differences.
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16th November 2011, 23:10 | #10988 | Link | |
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So basically you're saying you're not willing to do a screenshot comparison for me? |
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16th November 2011, 23:18 | #10989 | Link |
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2.7 dual core cpu and current ati 4650 and i can run MadVR for everything other than 1080 stuff
will a new nvidia card enable me to do 1080 if i enable Cuvid? should have tried it when i had it i know but i sent it back as i got a lot of dropped frames compared to ATI. but that was before renethx pointed out that reclock wroks better with MadVR when Vsync is disabled...doh |
16th November 2011, 23:30 | #10990 | Link |
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Hi,
I was wondering if there is way around a little problem I'm having. Actually it's more of an annoyance than a real problem, but it drives me mad nonetheless. Every time I start a player, the first file I'm playing gives me correct screen refresh rate (usually ~48Hz, but incorrect composition rate (60 and sometimes 30Hz). It's ALWAYS like that, but reopening the same file ALWAYS gives me matching rate. From what I understand, exclusive mode and disabling Aero would solve the problem, but unfortunately that does not suit me (disabling and re-enabling Aero messes with some of my open programs). So, am I stuck with opening files two times in order to watch, or is there something else that can be done? Actually, there is one more annoyance. When in fullscreen, clicking on "minimize" will crash the player. But I've learn to live with this one, so it's not a big deal... EDIT: I found out elsewhere solution to the last one. Check: Preferences->General->Fixed window position when minimize My setup: Win 7 x64 nVidia 420M Daum PotPlayer, Haali Media Spliter, CoreAVC, LAV Filters, ffdshow raw video filter, ReClock, madVR - all 32-bit. madVR is handling the switching to custom resolutions 48/50Hz. Cheers, SB Last edited by SoBizarre; 18th November 2011 at 19:52. |
16th November 2011, 23:41 | #10991 | Link | |
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I noticed that next to the VC-1 checkbox in madVR settings, I can choose either libav or Intel decoder. I actually still have it on libav, but the interlaced VC-1 clip still decodes properly. Is madVR using libav for non-interlaced VC-1, and automatically choosing Intel decoder for interlaced VC-1? |
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17th November 2011, 00:12 | #10992 | Link |
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If I play a clip in exclusive mode on monitor 1 then everything is "frozen" on monitor 2. I'm guessing that is normal behavior but just wanted to confirm since if the reverse happens I can use monitor 1 like normal.
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17th November 2011, 00:17 | #10993 | Link |
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I have the same problem but I would not call it "frozen" but rather the application on monitor 2 can't get the focus.
I can move the windows around but they can't become the active application.
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17th November 2011, 00:42 | #10995 | Link |
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bug report: resuming from sleep, or switching between single-monitor and extended desktop modes (win+p in vista/7) causes madVR to become very choppy.
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17th November 2011, 02:15 | #10996 | Link |
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0.79 and MPC-HC refresh rate changer
I have a problem with madVR 0.79 that doesn't happen with 0.78.
As you probably know I use MPC-HC fullscreen refresh rate changer and it has always worked. But with 0.79, when I play a 24fps movie my LCD starts as 60Hz, then I go fullscreen and the LCD changes to 24Hz but it shows the MPC seek bar kinda out of place, I hear the audio of the movie but no image. I pause and unpause, then I can see the movie, but 2 to 3 seconds later after the movie is already playing, the LCD changes back to 60Hz even though I didn't exit the fullscreen. It should stay at 24Hz. I go back to 0.78 and all is fine as it has always been. Did you change anything that could have broke the MPC-HC refresh rate changer? PS: madVR's refresh rate changer works with 0.79 and mantains the 24HZ throughout the movie. I would like to use your changer, though, if it would allow me to change the rate, only when in going fullscreen.
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