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Old 1st May 2011, 17:41   #2221  |  Link
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DTS-HD MA not working. Flashing between DTS-HD MA and PCM on the receiver. No audio.
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DD+ is just broken in ffdshow, there is no hardware limitation.


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DTS-HD MA not working. Flashing between DTS-HD MA and PCM on the receiver. No audio.
Does DTS itself work, from the same stream?
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DD+ is just broken in ffdshow, there is no hardware limitation.
Someone told us that on the ffdshow hd audio thread, but, we were skeptical. However, this proves it. VERY VERY kuel!

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Does DTS itself work, from the same stream?
Will check in a minute. I went to play a TrueHD file after that and it crashed my machine. Rebooting now. Retesting momentarily.
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Old 1st May 2011, 17:46   #2224  |  Link
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TrueHD works fine. DTS core works, as well from the same file that wasn't working with DTS-HD MA. So it's just DTS-HD MA that has the problem.
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Nice to see the forum back. sigh. Anything I can do to help with the DTS-HD MA bitstreaming issue?
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DTS-HD MA works fine for me. Does it no work on any disc?

I tried, for example, on the m2ts version of this:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1330124
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Also, as before, attach debugger on a debug build.
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This is cool. Very cool. But, for bitstreaming these compressed formats, don't you have to run your monitor at the exact (or exact multiple) of the movie fps?
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Old 1st May 2011, 18:12   #2229  |  Link
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Awesome Nev

Here are my findings, with Direct Sound renderer

MKV, DTS/DTSHD: Only work with AVI<->AC3/DTS between LAV Splitter and Audio
MKV, DTS-ES Matrix: 1st time I see this on AVR
Bluray (Eagle Eye), TrueHD,: Cant connect to audio renderer
M2TS (Sample posted earlier), TrueHD: Works fine
MKV,DD: Working fine.
MPEG-TS,DD: Most crash on start when bitstreaming, normal decoding ok.

If you need me to test anything let me know
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This is cool. Very cool. But, for bitstreaming these compressed formats, don't you have to run your monitor at the exact (or exact multiple) of the movie fps?
Thats not important. The only thing you CANNOT do when bitstreaming is let ReClock adjust the video speed to match refres rate, because then it goes out of sync. So with perfect bitstreaming, you'll end up with not 100% perfect video, because it could drop or repeat frames to match the refresh rate.

So, i guess, yes. For 100% perfect audio and video, with bitstreaming, it needs to be a exact multiple of the fps.


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MKV, DTS/DTSHD: Only work with AVI<->AC3/DTS between LAV Splitter and Audio
That doesn't make any sense, the connection between LAV Splitter and LAV Audio should always work - unless you turned one of the formats off in the config.
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Gonna build it now. It works for nVidia, not AMD. Need to try something first to see if makes any difference. Nope...I took ReClock out of the mix. Same deal. Ok, building a debug version.
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That doesn't make any sense, the connection between LAV Splitter and LAV Audio should always work - unless you turned one of the formats off in the config.
If I bitstream, that filter gets put in the chain automatically, if I decode, it doesn't.

XForm In
Code:
Filter : AVI<->AC3/DTS - CLSID : {93230DD0-7B3C-4EFB-AFBB-DC380FEC9E6B}

- Connected to:

CLSID: {171252A0-8820-4AFE-9DF8-5C92B2D66B04}
Filter: LAV Splitter
Pin: Audio

- Connection media type:

Audio: DTS 48000Hz 6ch 1536kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE: 
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_DTS {E06D8033-DB46-11CF-B4D1-00805F6CBBEA}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 256000
cbFormat: 18

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0008
nChannels: 6
nSamplesPerSec: 48000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 192000
nBlockAlign: 12
wBitsPerSample: 16
cbSize: 0 (extra bytes)

pbFormat:
0000: 08 00 06 00 80 bb 00 00 00 ee 02 00 0c 00 10 00 ....€»...î......
0010: 00 00                                           ..
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Filter : AVI<->AC3/DTS - CLSID : {93230DD0-7B3C-4EFB-AFBB-DC380FEC9E6B}

- Connected to:

CLSID: {E8E73B6B-4CB3-44A4-BE99-4F7BCB96E491}
Filter: LAV Audio Decoder
Pin: XForm In

- Connection media type:

Audio: DTS 48000Hz stereo 1536kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE: 
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {00002001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 18

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x2001
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 48000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 192000
nBlockAlign: 1
wBitsPerSample: 16
cbSize: 18 (extra bytes)

pbFormat:
0000: 01 20 02 00 80 bb 00 00 00 ee 02 00 01 00 10 00 . ..€»...î......
0010: 12 00                                           ..

- Enumerated media type 0:

Set as the current media type
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@nevcairiel:
Any chance to add support in LAVF audio decoder to be able to connect with MS DVD navigator ?
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@nevcairiel:
Any chance to add support in LAVF audio decoder to be able to connect with MS DVD navigator ?
Is that why I can't select it for DVD's in MC16?
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If I bitstream, that filter gets put in the chain automatically, if I decode, it doesn't.
That media type looks just perfect, i wouldn't know why it adds that weird filter there. o.O
The only thing that would make it break would be a sample rate of 0 in the media type.

Especially the only when bitstreaming .. that doesn't make any sense. I also cannot reproduce it here.
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Uhhhhh, Nev? This seems bad man. So, I fully removed ReClock from the chain this time (forgot I had it set to always load...sigh). On my AMD equipment, LAV Audio is no longer used for DTS at ALL unless I uncheck the DTS-HD MA bitstreaming checkbox. Then it'll do DTS bitstreaming. If I leave DTS-HD MA checked, it falls back to other decoders. Hell, I uninstalled ffdshow completely, unregistered the ArcSoft audio decoder, and it fell back to the microsoft decoder for DTS! So, something's wrong.
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It doesn't even work anymore if you disable bitstreaming at all?

Also, please post the output media type of ffdshow while bitstreaming DTS-HD MA.
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Oh sure now that I uninstalled ffdshow. Give me a few minutes as I just got the debug version built and installed. I'm saying that if I uncheck the DTS-HD MA bitstream option, then LAV Audio accepts the connection, however. Even if I leave the core DTS bitstream option checked. I'm saying that if I have the DTS-HD MA bitstream option checked, LAV Audio refuses the connection and it goes to another decoder instead. How whacked is that?
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On my AMD equipment, LAV Audio is no longer used for DTS at ALL unless I uncheck the DTS-HD MA bitstreaming checkbox.
This is exactly my issue, the AVI<->AC3/DTS filter doesn't appear if I deselect DTS-HD decoding. So I assume yours isn't working because AVI<->AC3/DTS isn't getting loaded.
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May be stupid, but can be this caused by registry prefered decoder selection under Win7?
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