madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 216

GREG1292 · 26th August 2010, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Razoola

After you have installed it make sure you do not delete the directoy where you ran the bat file as this becomes the installed directory. I have heard of people deleting the directory after thinking the install bat moves filles somewhere else.

I just installed it last night and had the same problem. I needed to run as Administrator for install and it worked correctly.

Thunderbolt8 · 26th August 2010, 17:24

how do I have to setup coreavc to work best with madvr? so far Ive limited the output format to YV12 and set deinterlacing to none (weave). since I still use both, coreavc for decoding of the video and ffdshow for sharpening, in case of deinterlacing, which codec should be used then? should I use coreavc (bob, hardware?)? or rather ffdshow (yadif)? and if coreavc, is it recommended to tick agressive deinterlacing?

whats left now are the settings input levels, output levels and input colourspace. so far all three are set to autodetect. I use those four 3dlut files for HD/SD PC and video levels, do I need to change anything here?

namaiki · 26th August 2010, 17:27

In CoreAVC, set both input and output to TV since you are outputting with YV12.

Gser · 26th August 2010, 17:31

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Originally Posted by namaiki

In CoreAVC, set both input and output to TV since you are outputting with YV12.

Why?.....

namaiki · 26th August 2010, 17:35

Because CoreAVC shouldn't be touching levels conversion. Also, it doesn't matter what you set for colourspace as madVR will be handling that too.

Thunderbolt8 · 26th August 2010, 17:58

but why then TV and not PC, since coreavc shouldnt be touching it anyway?

namaiki · 26th August 2010, 18:01

AFAIK, it doesn't matter if you pick both PC or both TV in CoreAVC, you will get the same image.

Thunderbolt8 · 26th August 2010, 18:04

so both autodetect should work as well?

namaiki · 26th August 2010, 18:12

No, because autodetect can equal either TV or PC, so you will not know if it is TV|TV, TV|PC, PC|PC or PC|TV.

leeperry · 26th August 2010, 18:38

2 useful tricks in mVR I use are to:
-use 2 different LUT's(SPMTE-C/EBU) and switch them on the fly by changing the levels...hence loading different LUT's
-set the .ini read only, input 0-255 and enable the TV>PC conversion on top when the picture's too bright(sloppy encodes).

Thunderbolt8 · 26th August 2010, 20:21

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Originally Posted by namaiki

No, because autodetect can equal either TV or PC, so you will not know if it is TV|TV, TV|PC, PC|PC or PC|TV.

should I tick a specific colourspace then as well? or is auto here ok?

Zulithe · 26th August 2010, 23:49

Thanks everyone, I got it to work finally. Pretty sure the "install into a different directory" trick is what fixed it... though i'm still not sure WHY that would fix it. Funky registry settings hanging around?

namaiki · 27th August 2010, 04:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

should I tick a specific colourspace then as well? or is auto here ok?

It doesn't matter about colourspace as madVR will be converting to RGB, so the option in CoreAVC shouldn't actually do anything.

qazokm123 · 27th August 2010, 09:13

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Originally Posted by Razoola

I always get the black screen first time I try with 027. It seems to only happen once and hangs the player, I need task manager to end process, then every time after that its fine until I reboot the machine then it will happen again. This situation is very simular to what happened originally with many nvidia card owners with madVR not working at all due to some slow scan line reporting issue I think madshi said it was.

I also get the random dropped frames with 027 what were not happening at all before and have gone back to previous version.

Yes freeze mpc-hc , happens with 0.27, with my win7 x64, 32bit mpc-hc too. Got to close once with process monitor.
retry same video file, works.

Razoola · 27th August 2010, 12:14

Some more info on the black screen issue I have.

I watched a video yesturday and had the OSD stats of madVR active when I closed the media player.

Today after PC restart I watched a video and I did not suffer the black screen as I always do with 027 the first time a video is launched after pc reboot. The video started fine and the OSD stats were showing. Now here is the kicker, I turned off the stats and then went to watch another video and guess what, I got the black screen problem. I had to use task manager to close player and launch video file again to get it working.

It seems having the OSD stats active stop the black screen issue somehow.

pankov · 28th August 2010, 02:55

This night I watched a few episodes of a TV show and I experienced the same "black screen" problem that Razoola is talking about.
The bad thing is that in my case it's not only the first time after PC restart but 2 out of 4 episodes hang the player

I'm not 100% sure what's the cause because for the last week I was very busy and I haven't used v0.27 a lot and when I used it I usually had the OSD on. The other possibility is that the video card driver change I did last night (from 10.4 to 10.7a) could have caused it ... I'm not exactly sure of anything and I'll do more tests tomorrow but just wanted to share my experience from this night.

mueslibrown · 28th August 2010, 08:42

The black screen issue with MPC happens regularly now everytime I have the first launch of MPC after a switch on or reboot. Kill MPC and afterwards it seems to work fine. This happens with Catalyst 10.7 and 10.8 (win 64 home).

I guess for me the question is whats missing at the first load of MPC and whats left after MPC is killed such that the next load of MPC is fine.

MB

nlnl · 28th August 2010, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by mueslibrown

The black screen issue with MPC happens regularly now everytime I have the first launch of MPC after a switch on or reboot. Kill MPC and afterwards it seems to work fine. This happens with Catalyst 10.7 and 10.8 (win 64 home).

I guess for me the question is whats missing at the first load of MPC and whats left after MPC is killed such that the next load of MPC is fine.

MB

The same here

. MPC, 10.7, W7

Rain1 · 29th August 2010, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by qazokm123

Yes freeze mpc-hc , happens with 0.27, with my win7 x64, 32bit mpc-hc too. Got to close once with process monitor.
retry same video file, works.

It happens when I open mpc-hc first time & check 3dlut option. I think the problem is the pop-up message "Your computer doesnt have 3dlut, do u want to install it ? " (or something like that) didnt get a chance to appear on top of mpc-hc

Biggiesized · 29th August 2010, 20:41

Bah! I can't get madVR to be recognized by MPC-HC either. I've tried running the install batch file with administrator rights and with UAC disabled. I've tried multiple installation directories, including the one for MPC-HC itself. It's definitely registered in the registry and the filter is available in GraphEdit. Oh well...

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	Because CoreAVC shouldn't be touching levels conversion. Also, it doesn't matter what you set for colourspace as madVR will be handling that too. Last edited by namaiki; 26th August 2010 at 17:38.

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leeperry Kid for Today Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,477	2 useful tricks in mVR I use are to: -use 2 different LUT's(SPMTE-C/EBU) and switch them on the fly by changing the levels...hence loading different LUT's -set the .ini read only, input 0-255 and enable the TV>PC conversion on top when the picture's too bright(sloppy encodes). Last edited by leeperry; 26th August 2010 at 20:40.

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Thunderbolt8 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,197	how do I have to setup coreavc to work best with madvr? so far Ive limited the output format to YV12 and set deinterlacing to none (weave). since I still use both, coreavc for decoding of the video and ffdshow for sharpening, in case of deinterlacing, which codec should be used then? should I use coreavc (bob, hardware?)? or rather ffdshow (yadif)? and if coreavc, is it recommended to tick agressive deinterlacing? whats left now are the settings input levels, output levels and input colourspace. so far all three are set to autodetect. I use those four 3dlut files for HD/SD PC and video levels, do I need to change anything here?

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	In CoreAVC, set both input and output to TV since you are outputting with YV12.

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Thunderbolt8 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,197	but why then TV and not PC, since coreavc shouldnt be touching it anyway?

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	AFAIK, it doesn't matter if you pick both PC or both TV in CoreAVC, you will get the same image.

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Thunderbolt8 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,197	so both autodetect should work as well?

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namaiki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,073	No, because autodetect can equal either TV or PC, so you will not know if it is TV\|TV, TV\|PC, PC\|PC or PC\|TV.

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Zulithe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 42	Thanks everyone, I got it to work finally. Pretty sure the "install into a different directory" trick is what fixed it... though i'm still not sure WHY that would fix it. Funky registry settings hanging around?

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Razoola Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 454	Some more info on the black screen issue I have. I watched a video yesturday and had the OSD stats of madVR active when I closed the media player. Today after PC restart I watched a video and I did not suffer the black screen as I always do with 027 the first time a video is launched after pc reboot. The video started fine and the OSD stats were showing. Now here is the kicker, I turned off the stats and then went to watch another video and guess what, I got the black screen problem. I had to use task manager to close player and launch video file again to get it working. It seems having the OSD stats active stop the black screen issue somehow.

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pankov Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 661	This night I watched a few episodes of a TV show and I experienced the same "black screen" problem that Razoola is talking about. The bad thing is that in my case it's not only the first time after PC restart but 2 out of 4 episodes hang the player I'm not 100% sure what's the cause because for the last week I was very busy and I haven't used v0.27 a lot and when I used it I usually had the OSD on. The other possibility is that the video card driver change I did last night (from 10.4 to 10.7a) could have caused it ... I'm not exactly sure of anything and I'll do more tests tomorrow but just wanted to share my experience from this night.

28th August 2010, 08:42	#4317 \| Link
mueslibrown Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 22	The black screen issue with MPC happens regularly now everytime I have the first launch of MPC after a switch on or reboot. Kill MPC and afterwards it seems to work fine. This happens with Catalyst 10.7 and 10.8 (win 64 home). I guess for me the question is whats missing at the first load of MPC and whats left after MPC is killed such that the next load of MPC is fine. MB

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Biggiesized Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 225	Bah! I can't get madVR to be recognized by MPC-HC either. I've tried running the install batch file with administrator rights and with UAC disabled. I've tried multiple installation directories, including the one for MPC-HC itself. It's definitely registered in the registry and the filter is available in GraphEdit. Oh well...