madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 648

SamuelMaki · 3rd April 2012, 10:52

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Originally Posted by shaolin95

Thanks for the reply.
I do have my projector setup for the best IQ which is why I dont touch anything on it but the contrast and brightness but good news, it is a beast now!

I got it to outclass the previous IQ and just smoothness. I am glad I did the change for sure...and glad I dont have a wife so I can spend hours drooling on my setup

I am currently not using Powerstrip but the Nvidia contro panel to create a custom 47.952 resolution and when pressing CTRL+J I see it showing 47.950 so I think that is decently close.
I think I had the settings as letting my projector downsize the image (720p Infocus 7210) because from previous tests sending a 720p image instead of 1080p actually gave me less detail than letting the projector downconvert. This was tested with a 50mm prime lense taking samples images to make sure it was not a placebo.
So all in all, I am very happy and for $55 for a used gts450, I cannot complain about it.

Have you tried CUVID? LAV-filters supports it and it would be better than pale software or DXVA copy-back... Forget about CCC, I assumed you were using AMD-card

Have you checked that nVidia is set to Full-RGB 4:4:4? I have heard that GPU must be set to that and in madVR you must check the right RGB-mode (which I think is 16-235 for your projector...)
Remember to trust only to your eyes, so is up to you which settings and resolution you find the best with your equipment

Hypernova · 4th April 2012, 06:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuelMaki

Have you tried CUVID? LAV-filters supports it and it would be better than pale software or DXVA copy-back... Forget about CCC, I assumed you were using AMD-card

Have you checked that nVidia is set to Full-RGB 4:4:4? I have heard that GPU must be set to that and in madVR you must check the right RGB-mode (which I think is 16-235 for your projector...)
Remember to trust only to your eyes, so is up to you which settings and resolution you find the best with your equipment

If it's Full-RGB, shouldn't he set the projector to 0-255?

wanezhiling · 4th April 2012, 18:15

@madshi

http://www.mediafire.com/?p35ha691nc66egq

http://i.imgur.com/nG6J9.jpg
This happens in "P010 output + DXVA2 deinterlacing"

nevcairiel · 4th April 2012, 18:17

Someone really made a 10-bit interlaced file?
Those people should be shot, quartered and hanged, not necessarily in that order.

wanezhiling · 4th April 2012, 18:22

I agree with you.
Until now I cannot understand those anime fans odd behaviour like making horrible ass/ssa subtitles..

G_M_C · 4th April 2012, 18:41

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Originally Posted by wanezhiling

I agree with you.
Until now I cannot understand those anime fans odd behaviour like making horrible ass/ssa subtitles..

That i can a little bit; Some animes, like Howls Moving Castle, contain songs. Thay use those types for displaying the lyrics as karaoke style, in other font and color at the top of the screen, while in the same time displaying the regular subtitles at the bottom.

wanezhiling · 4th April 2012, 19:08

http://www.mediafire.com/?7dujsfhds19zeee
I mean ass subtitle like this.(From 0:00:52) which will kill some very old PCs.

mindbomb · 4th April 2012, 19:16

see, i thought the idea behind interlaced files was to maintain 25 fps in bluray.

but if they are using 10 bit, so they presumably don't care about bluray...

yea, very confusing.

shaolin95 · 4th April 2012, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuelMaki

Have you tried CUVID? LAV-filters supports it and it would be better than pale software or DXVA copy-back... Forget about CCC, I assumed you were using AMD-card

Have you checked that nVidia is set to Full-RGB 4:4:4? I have heard that GPU must be set to that and in madVR you must check the right RGB-mode (which I think is 16-235 for your projector...)
Remember to trust only to your eyes, so is up to you which settings and resolution you find the best with your equipment

I am using Cuvid now and it is indeed better than before..so happy I made the change.
Where is that Full RGB 4:4:4 setting? I cannot find it in the Nvidia control panel

Thanks!

IMPORTANT update:
The settings I was using for my projector was intended for DVI/hdmi devices or more specifically devices that are sending video levels (16-235) instead of 0-255 (pc levels). So i guess the idea will be for me NOT so use those settings and have my HTPC send 0-255 trying to avoid any conversions if possible, right?

chros · 5th April 2012, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanezhiling

http://www.mediafire.com/?7dujsfhds19zeee
I mean ass subtitle like this.(From 0:00:52) which will kill some very old PCs.

Thanks for this sample!!! I was looking for some for a while ...

shaolin95 · 5th April 2012, 14:00

So I was able to find the 0-255 option in the Adjust Video Settings section of the Nvidia control panel BUT I dont see any change at all from 0-255 to 16-235... Shouldnt I be seeing some changes like when changing the MADVR settings in the levels?
I am trying to keep the signal without having it converted back and forth for the cleanest possible image.

kalston · 5th April 2012, 17:16

Doesn't madVR bypass the nvidia settings?

aufkrawall · 5th April 2012, 17:36

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Originally Posted by kalston

Doesn't madVR bypass the nvidia settings?

Yep, AFAIK it's just important that with HDMI you either install the driver with a custom inf or you have to create a custom resolution to get full range.

BetA13 · 5th April 2012, 17:58

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Originally Posted by aufkrawall

Yep, AFAIK it's just important that with HDMI you either install the driver with a custom inf or you have to create a custom resolution to get full range.

works great here..
i dont have to set anything in NV Panel..its set to: Use Media Player´s settings..

And its all fine..even when i try to set it to Use NV Driver settings, MadVR overrides it here...

Greetz BetA

shaolin95 · 5th April 2012, 19:15

I guess it does because no matter what I change to, only changing in madvr makes a difference.

Pat357 · 8th April 2012, 02:16

I just send out a crash report to madsi about opening H264 encoded 2160p content (so called 4K content) : Potplayer or Madvr always crashes for me. (don't know who crashes first, but in the end they are both crashed)

Opening the 2160p content with EVR or EVR-CP or even Haali renderer in PP is OK : files play fluent (software decoding).

Has anyone else tried to open such 4K files in Potplayer with Madvr as renderer ?

PS: i have potplayer v1.5.32852 (dd. 30/03/2012) and Madvr 0.82.5

Luv · 8th April 2012, 07:55

8th April 2009:
madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) was born.One very special Easter egg !

Madshi has been working on his fantastic software for three years now.
HUGE THANKS FOR THIS BEAUTY,MATHIAS !

jp80 · 8th April 2012, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Kado

I've been checking the "black screen" issue....
I get black screen only in windowed mode (fullscreen has image) if:
general settings: (enabled) use a separate device for presentation + (enabled) use d3d11 for presentation
exclusive mode settings: (enabled) present several frames in advance

I get black screen windowed + fullscreen if:
general settings: (enabled) use a separate device for presentation + (disabled) use d3d11 for presentation
exclusive mode settings: (enabled) present several frames in advance

Disabling "present several frames in advance" fixes black screen for windowed + fullscreen

Hope this helps.

Windows 7 x64 + mpc hc latest + latest madvr + 301.10 + gtx 470

Kado

I have the black screen weirdly not as soon as I updated my GTX 580 on Win7 x64 to the driver v296.10 but a few days later, and unfortunately the 2 advices above on the renderer config did not fix anything for me in windowed and FS mode.

Is there another workaround, or do I have to wait for a solution from Madshi or Nvidia ?

And where MadVR leaves the rendering log ?

Pat357 · 8th April 2012, 18:36

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Originally Posted by jp80

I have the black screen weirdly not as soon as I updated my GTX 580 on Win7 x64 to the driver v296.10 but a few days later, and unfortunately the 2 advices above on the renderer config did not fix anything for me in windowed and FS mode.

Is there another workaround, or do I have to wait for a solution from Madshi or Nvidia ?

And where MadVR leaves the rendering log ?

The "MadVR log" goes to your desktop if that's your question.
About the black screens : do you still have these when you use the
295.73 WHQL drivers for your gtx-580 ?
I never saw any black screens with my gtx-570 using the 295.73 drivers.
As the gtx-570 and your gtx-580 are very similar cards, I suggest to try this driver.

JaylumX · 9th April 2012, 14:46

If you want Madvr to work with the latest forceware drivers - 300 series - then you need to uncheck "use separate device for presentation" in the Rendering\General Settings of Madvr or you will get a blank screen

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nevcairiel Registered Developer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hamburg/Germany Posts: 10,348	Someone really made a 10-bit interlaced file? Those people should be shot, quartered and hanged, not necessarily in that order. __________________ LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders

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shaolin95 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 293	So I was able to find the 0-255 option in the Adjust Video Settings section of the Nvidia control panel BUT I dont see any change at all from 0-255 to 16-235... Shouldnt I be seeing some changes like when changing the MADVR settings in the levels? I am trying to keep the signal without having it converted back and forth for the cleanest possible image. Last edited by shaolin95; 5th April 2012 at 14:12.

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JaylumX Something Else Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somewhere Else Posts: 76	Nvidia Forceware 300 drivers and MadVR If you want Madvr to work with the latest forceware drivers - 300 series - then you need to uncheck "use separate device for presentation" in the Rendering\General Settings of Madvr or you will get a blank screen

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wanezhiling Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,184	@madshi http://www.mediafire.com/?p35ha691nc66egq http://i.imgur.com/nG6J9.jpg This happens in "P010 output + DXVA2 deinterlacing"

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wanezhiling Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,184	I agree with you. Until now I cannot understand those anime fans odd behaviour like making horrible ass/ssa subtitles..

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wanezhiling Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,184	http://www.mediafire.com/?7dujsfhds19zeee I mean ass subtitle like this.(From 0:00:52) which will kill some very old PCs.

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mindbomb Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 576	see, i thought the idea behind interlaced files was to maintain 25 fps in bluray. but if they are using 10 bit, so they presumably don't care about bluray... yea, very confusing.

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kalston Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 164	Doesn't madVR bypass the nvidia settings?

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shaolin95 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 293	I guess it does because no matter what I change to, only changing in madvr makes a difference.

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Pat357 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 452	I just send out a crash report to madsi about opening H264 encoded 2160p content (so called 4K content) : Potplayer or Madvr always crashes for me. (don't know who crashes first, but in the end they are both crashed) Opening the 2160p content with EVR or EVR-CP or even Haali renderer in PP is OK : files play fluent (software decoding). Has anyone else tried to open such 4K files in Potplayer with Madvr as renderer ? PS: i have potplayer v1.5.32852 (dd. 30/03/2012) and Madvr 0.82.5

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Luv Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 63	8th April 2009: madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) was born.One very special Easter egg ! Madshi has been working on his fantastic software for three years now. HUGE THANKS FOR THIS BEAUTY,MATHIAS !