LSFmod [v1.9 - Update 2009/10/05] - Page 3

Archimedes · 27th November 2008, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaTo

Try to re-download v1.3... (I have added a sqrt() to the calculation)

That was it. Thanks.

halsboss · 28th November 2008, 13:42

Thanks !

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaTo

In order of strength:
- 1 < 3 < 5 < 2 < 4 +

In order of speed:
- 5 < 4 < 3 < 2 < 1 +

In order of quality:
- 4 < 2 < 1 < 3 < 5 +

Is this still the case after the mods (smodes changed, didn't they ?) ?

Also, does that mean smode=5 is (was?) mid strength but the slowest and highest quality ? I'd thought smode=5 was now a modded smode=4 for v1.3.

Also, is the same plugin set required or are there additional/newer plugins etc required ? A quick peruse of post #1 and didn't readily spot it.

LaTo · 28th November 2008, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by halsboss

Is this still the case after the mods (smodes changed, didn't they ?) ?

Also, does that mean smode=5 is (was?) mid strength but the slowest and highest quality ? I'd thought smode=5 was now a modded smode=4 for v1.3.

Smode != Smethod... Be careful

Quote:

Originally Posted by halsboss

Also, is the same plugin set required or are there additional/newer plugins etc required ? A quick peruse of post #1 and didn't readily spot it.

I have added filters required into the first post and into the script...

McCauley · 7th January 2009, 17:43

Hi LaTo,

thanks for this superb modification of LSF!

May i make a few requests?

Presets for realtime DVD playback would nice. I have something like that in mind:

Code:

LSFmod(DVD=true, AR=2.35:1 displaysize=720)

So it automatically crops off 1/6 from the top and the bottom, sets the resolution to 1280:544 and sharpens it.
Equivalent settings for 16:9 and 4:3 content.

Also MoComped sharpening/soothing would be nice for those who don't mind a little bit slower encoding, but want to save a few bits.

Regards and thanks in advance
McCauley

Adub · 7th January 2009, 19:15

I doubt he is going to implement such a request as a) every dvd is different and every person watching a dvd is different. Just save your favorite settings to a script and import it when ever you want. b) If you want mocomp, look at mctemporaldenoisePP.

McCauley · 7th January 2009, 23:28

Hi Merlin,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin7777

b) I doubt he is going to implement such a request as a) every dvd is different and every person watching a dvd is different. Just save your favorite settings to a script and import it when ever you want.

There are basically 3 kinds of DVDs: 4:3, 16:9, 21:9, not that much. Of course they differ in height or width for about 3.8 lines, but who cares...
Maybe an additional preset, with detail enhancement (higher overshoot2 and perhaps something else) and the thing would be fine. Of course you can still tweak every value according to your needs.

Quote:

b) If you want mocomp, look at mctemporaldenoisePP.

I had that idea too, BUT it hasn't all the parameters i need - of course i could fiddle in the missing ones, but if i would do that, i could also try to modify LSFmod, the work to do would be the same.
Also if you want to resize, you have to supersize, do a motion search on a 2400x1360 clip for a full hd vid, sharpen with ss_x=1, profit from the MC'ed soothe, and then resize to for example to 720p or whatever. Or have i gotten it wrong?!

Regards
McCauley

Sagekilla · 8th January 2009, 02:59

I think the point Merlin was trying to get across was that there's no point in doing presets. It's -extremely- trivial to set up LSF for use with a DVD with an AR of 4:3, 16:9, or 2.35:1 as is.

4:3 - LSF(width=720,height=540)
16:9 - LSF(width=848,height=480)
2.35:1 - LSF(width=848,height=352)

Not hard at all. And as Merlin said, if you want a specific preset, just write it out as a custom line or function:

Code:

# DVD Preset
# LimitedSharpenFaster(...) 
# Blu-ray Preset
# LimitedSharpenFaster(...)
# All others
# LimitedSharpenFaster()

Adding in presets just complicates things and discourages the user from playing around with the settings to find the best result they like.

LaTo · 8th January 2009, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCauley

Presets for realtime DVD playback would nice. I have something like that in mind:

Code:

LSFmod(DVD=true, AR=2.35:1 displaysize=720)

So it automatically crops off 1/6 from the top and the bottom, sets the resolution to 1280:544 and sharpens it.
Equivalent settings for 16:9 and 4:3 content.

Sorry, I will not implement this... (for the reasons given by Merlin7777 & Sagekilla)

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCauley

Also MoComped sharpening/soothing would be nice for those who don't mind a little bit slower encoding, but want to save a few bits.

It was already on my todo list, but I haven't time right now (study...

)

rkalwaitis · 25th January 2009, 23:33

Lato,

I find this a very useful script, but unlike you other scripts I can not compare my efforts with the show true or false option. What is the chance of maybe adding that? I do like seeing the original and the filtered side by side. Just something to think about. If I were smart enough I would do it myself.

Thanks, K

Sagekilla · 26th January 2009, 00:23

A very, very easy way to do that would be (AvsP + VDM optional, both make it infinitely easier):

Code:

a = last
b = a.LSFMod()

Interleave(a,b)

rkalwaitis · 26th January 2009, 18:33

Sagekilla,

If I interleave them doesnt that defeat the purpose of seeing the original input and the filtered output in seperate panes? That was the beauty of the other show commands from other Lato scripts. I tried to play around with it a bit and the little script I worked on would show both input and output, but they were not in synch. In other words the input played much closer to real time than the output. I wanted to see the same frames and the same time as in MCTemporalDenoise show option. I keep playing with it. I get an input and output view with VD (as you know), but I run scripts with avisynth and the input is filtered already for the output to change I need to filter the avs file with a vd filter. So it really does my no good. I like to open the avs files in media player and then I can see the unfiltered input and filtered output. I can see what I actually changed.

lastly since you a x264aholic I would be interest in perhaps you sharing the settings you use for your products when you use MCTemporaldenoise.

Thanks

rkalwaitis · 26th January 2009, 18:35

Sagekilla,
Primarily Motion Estimation settings.
thanks

LaTo · 26th January 2009, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkalwaitis

Lato,

I find this a very useful script, but unlike you other scripts I can not compare my efforts with the show true or false option. What is the chance of maybe adding that? I do like seeing the original and the filtered side by side. Just something to think about. If I were smart enough I would do it myself.

Thanks, K

Yes, It's on my todo list for v1.4.
But when? Maybe in 1 week, 1 month... I don't know

Sagekilla · 26th January 2009, 21:10

@rkalwaitis: The idea of interleaving the original frame and the processed frame is that you could flip back and forth in a program like AvsP or VirtualDub(Mod) and see exactly what the filter did.

Also, the x264 is a bit off topic, check your pms

rkalwaitis · 26th January 2009, 21:30

Im gonna check out the Avsp and the Mod version of VirtualDub. You guys are teaching me too much.

Thanks Lato, ill watch for it. Good stuff!!!!

Blue_MiSfit · 28th January 2009, 01:41

If you want to do side-by-side comparison it's very easy. AvsP is my weapon of choice!

Code:

a=last
lsfmod()
stackhorizontal(a,last)

volia

~MiSfit

rkalwaitis · 29th January 2009, 15:37

Thanks Misfit, That was simple enough even I got it.

dansus · 30th January 2009, 13:04

Hi, im getting error at 0k in megui with 1.3.

Ive updated all dependencies and seemingly no clue why its failing, any ideas?

LaTo · 30th January 2009, 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansus

Hi, im getting error at 0k in megui with 1.3.

Ive updated all dependencies and seemingly no clue why its failing, any ideas?

Post your script and the exact error message...

LaTo · 31st January 2009, 21:14

v1.4:
changed defaults="new" to defaults="slow" & defaults="fast"
added show parameter
cleaned a little the code

7th January 2009, 17:43	#44 \| Link
McCauley Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 83	Hi LaTo, thanks for this superb modification of LSF! May i make a few requests? Presets for realtime DVD playback would nice. I have something like that in mind: Code: LSFmod(DVD=true, AR=2.35:1 displaysize=720) So it automatically crops off 1/6 from the top and the bottom, sets the resolution to 1280:544 and sharpens it. Equivalent settings for 16:9 and 4:3 content. Also MoComped sharpening/soothing would be nice for those who don't mind a little bit slower encoding, but want to save a few bits. Regards and thanks in advance McCauley

7th January 2009, 19:15	#45 \| Link
Adub Fighting spam with a fish Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,699	I doubt he is going to implement such a request as a) every dvd is different and every person watching a dvd is different. Just save your favorite settings to a script and import it when ever you want. b) If you want mocomp, look at mctemporaldenoisePP. __________________ FAQs:Bond's AVC/H.264 FAQ Site:Adubvideo

8th January 2009, 02:59	#47 \| Link
Sagekilla x264aholic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,752	I think the point Merlin was trying to get across was that there's no point in doing presets. It's -extremely- trivial to set up LSF for use with a DVD with an AR of 4:3, 16:9, or 2.35:1 as is. 4:3 - LSF(width=720,height=540) 16:9 - LSF(width=848,height=480) 2.35:1 - LSF(width=848,height=352) Not hard at all. And as Merlin said, if you want a specific preset, just write it out as a custom line or function: Code: # DVD Preset # LimitedSharpenFaster(...) # Blu-ray Preset # LimitedSharpenFaster(...) # All others # LimitedSharpenFaster() Adding in presets just complicates things and discourages the user from playing around with the settings to find the best result they like. __________________ You can't call your encoding speed slow until you start measuring in seconds per frame. Last edited by Sagekilla; 8th January 2009 at 03:01.

26th January 2009, 00:23	#50 \| Link
Sagekilla x264aholic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,752	A very, very easy way to do that would be (AvsP + VDM optional, both make it infinitely easier): Code: a = last b = a.LSFMod() Interleave(a,b) __________________ You can't call your encoding speed slow until you start measuring in seconds per frame.

26th January 2009, 21:10	#54 \| Link
Sagekilla x264aholic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,752	@rkalwaitis: The idea of interleaving the original frame and the processed frame is that you could flip back and forth in a program like AvsP or VirtualDub(Mod) and see exactly what the filter did. Also, the x264 is a bit off topic, check your pms __________________ You can't call your encoding speed slow until you start measuring in seconds per frame. Last edited by Sagekilla; 26th January 2009 at 21:14.

25th January 2009, 23:33	#49 \| Link
rkalwaitis Robert Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 407	Lato, I find this a very useful script, but unlike you other scripts I can not compare my efforts with the show true or false option. What is the chance of maybe adding that? I do like seeing the original and the filtered side by side. Just something to think about. If I were smart enough I would do it myself. Thanks, K

26th January 2009, 18:33	#51 \| Link
rkalwaitis Robert Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 407	Sagekilla, If I interleave them doesnt that defeat the purpose of seeing the original input and the filtered output in seperate panes? That was the beauty of the other show commands from other Lato scripts. I tried to play around with it a bit and the little script I worked on would show both input and output, but they were not in synch. In other words the input played much closer to real time than the output. I wanted to see the same frames and the same time as in MCTemporalDenoise show option. I keep playing with it. I get an input and output view with VD (as you know), but I run scripts with avisynth and the input is filtered already for the output to change I need to filter the avs file with a vd filter. So it really does my no good. I like to open the avs files in media player and then I can see the unfiltered input and filtered output. I can see what I actually changed. lastly since you a x264aholic I would be interest in perhaps you sharing the settings you use for your products when you use MCTemporaldenoise. Thanks

26th January 2009, 18:35	#52 \| Link
rkalwaitis Robert Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 407	Sagekilla, Primarily Motion Estimation settings. thanks

26th January 2009, 21:30	#55 \| Link
rkalwaitis Robert Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 407	Im gonna check out the Avsp and the Mod version of VirtualDub. You guys are teaching me too much. Thanks Lato, ill watch for it. Good stuff!!!!

28th January 2009, 01:41	#56 \| Link
Blue_MiSfit Derek Prestegard IRL Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,989	If you want to do side-by-side comparison it's very easy. AvsP is my weapon of choice! Code: a=last lsfmod() stackhorizontal(a,last) volia ~MiSfit __________________ These are all my personal statements, not those of my employer :)

29th January 2009, 15:37	#57 \| Link
rkalwaitis Robert Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 407	Thanks Misfit, That was simple enough even I got it.

30th January 2009, 13:04	#58 \| Link
dansus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: london Posts: 104	Hi, im getting error at 0k in megui with 1.3. Ive updated all dependencies and seemingly no clue why its failing, any ideas?

31st January 2009, 21:14	#60 \| Link
LaTo LaTo INV. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Posts: 701	Update 2009/01/31 - v1.4 v1.4: changed defaults="new" to defaults="slow" & defaults="fast" added show parameter cleaned a little the code __________________ AutoAdjust SmoothAdjust MCTemporalDenoise LSFmod GradFun2DBmod

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