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Old 24th May 2019, 17:29   #421  |  Link
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someone really likes click bait videos here...
i mean intel can't produce enough CPU to meet demand that'S a clear sign of a dead company!
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Old 24th May 2019, 18:12   #422  |  Link
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someone really likes click bait videos here...
i mean intel can't produce enough CPU to meet demand that'S a clear sign of a dead company!
Yeah, maybe the word "dead" is a bit strong
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Old 24th May 2019, 18:33   #423  |  Link
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yeah maybe every single word in the title is miss leading,
so why should anyone even trust/hear out a word of a person that is clearly lying with the title?
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Old 25th May 2019, 00:04   #424  |  Link
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something ive wondered about before but never really got an answer to. In windows audio control panel my HTPC keeps defaulting to STEREO 16bit 48khz instead of 7.1 24bit 192 khz which I want it set to. When playing a movie using KODI or something else and bitstreaming what quality does it bitsteam at, your windows setting or does it automatically output the cards max setting, does whats set in the control panel acually matter at all, could I just leave it set at stereo 16/48?

I setup a batch file to run at logon which switches it back to 7.1 but it doesnt always work and I often forget about it, its quite annoying and I havent yet found a way around this, anyone else?
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Old 25th May 2019, 00:06   #425  |  Link
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or does it bitstream at the movies encoded rate regardless of what windows it set to?
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Old 25th May 2019, 00:24   #426  |  Link
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Bitstreaming bypasses the windows settings completely. It's sent directly to your receiver so whatever it's encoded as and whatever your receiver does with that have nothing to do with windows settings at all.
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Old 25th May 2019, 00:33   #427  |  Link
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cool thanks, i guess my only concern is youtubewhich wont bitstream, but thats still not surround anyway is it, is youtube still just outputting in stereo on a PC desktop?
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Old 25th May 2019, 00:37   #428  |  Link
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youtube uses multi channel opus so you are unlikely to bitstream that.
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Old 25th May 2019, 00:43   #429  |  Link
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you cant get any surround on youtube with desktop PC can you?, I heard firefox supports it but I dont use it, chrome doesnt.
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Old 25th May 2019, 00:45   #430  |  Link
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no clue what you are talking about. i can clearly play multi channel on my PC.
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Old 25th May 2019, 00:54   #431  |  Link
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you can play multi channel videos on youtube and you get full surround sound using google chrome?, when I play stuff it simply sums the rears to the front, sure your amp is just upmixing to virtual surround, pretty sure youtube is only stereo using chrome on a pc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzv63Q2beg0
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Old 25th May 2019, 04:04   #433  |  Link
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i tested it using mpc-hc it's working fine.
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That video only has 2ch sound at 1080p, using MPC-BE:
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Video: H.264/AVC 1920x1080 25fps [VideoHandler - MPEG4 Video (H264) (AVC (H.264), High Profile, Level 4.0, 1920x1080, 25.000 fps)]
Audio: AAC 44100Hz 2.0 chn [SoundHandler - MPEG-4 Audio (AAC, 44.1 kHz, 2.0 chn, 16 bit)]
Can you link one that indeed has 6ch?
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that video wasnt a test video, i posted it as it explains in detail why youtube doesnt have surround sound on PC/laptops in a browser.

perhaps i'm not making myself clear here, I was wondering why so many people where saying they are getting full surround sound from youtube in a browser when it does not appear to be technically possible, i've only managed to get 2.0 with all other channels summing to front, i cant even get phased rear as part of the dolby quad matrix (see video)
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If you want an expample for „not technically possible“: 4K 444 RGB 60hz / 10bit
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Old 25th May 2019, 13:47   #437  |  Link
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thats a bit random, whats your point?
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The point is that it is very well technically possible to do multi-channel on a PC, and that YouTube does provide multi-channel audio. If a particular browser (or any browser) doesn't play that, its the browsers problem. Many people consume YouTube through media frontends on a HTPC, which doesn't involve a browser for playback.

This video for example serves 5.1 AAC: (and yes, this is also available with "real" content, not just this test video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTHtXgnhqfM

If you play that with MPC-HC, you get 5.1 audio that you cannot bitstream.
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Old 25th May 2019, 15:21   #439  |  Link
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again, i'm simply stating its not technically possible to do 5.1/7.1 or any type of surround in desktop Chrome, I am aware it can be gained in using other methods, I cant even get my rear channels to process anything at all in chrome, this is ALL i'm seaking to get clarification on.

How youtube works is covered i the video I posted, essentially what it states is that when something is uploaded to youtube the original video is held "somewhere" but when its streamed its re-encoded in dolby stereo in most PC browsers. However he states that some platforms could be getting access to the original 5.1/7.1 source but people could be thinking they are getting 5.1/7.1 when they are really only getting phased dolby 2.0 back channels or their audio equipment is upmixing to 5.1/7.1.


I'll ask again, given that there are a lot of people out there stating they are getting surround sound through CHROME BROWSER on their desktop PCs, how are they achieving this if I cant, and I cant get anything out of my rears at all, or are they just mistaken?
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You are the only one talking about Chrome. Noone else even mentioned a particular kind of browser. The original point was that non-bitstreamable multi-channel audio exists and some people play that. Not that it doesn't work on your system with your particular software.
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