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6th January 2016, 08:39 | #35002 | Link |
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I have an issue with Madvr + Potplayer + Exclusive mode D3D11 10bit . I'm using Lav Filter 0.67 and CUVID 970GTX
Randomly if I go exclusive mode and back to windowed the frames goes on but repeat themselfs, it's like shaky video that you see the frame before, and madvr ctrl+j shows numbers that goes back and forward fast. I tried many things to fix the issue, it happens in windows 10 . I can't find the reason it happens. I try prerender 3-4-6 and such , nothing helps. Nvidia Control panel set to Prerender 3 for Potplayer. Decoder Queue , Upload Queue, Render queue, present queue, all goes lower . Normally when it works fine Decoder 16-16 / 16 upload ueue 12-12 /12 render queue 12-12 /12 present queue 3-4 /4 when it doesn't 14-16 10-12 1-2 1-4 randomly can be 2-4 too There are 10-15 dropped frames every sec. Can someone please help me understand the issue ? EDIT Changing the Display bit from 10 bit to 8 bit fix the issue .. what can be the problem with the 10 bit ? EDIT 2 : I used Potplayer 32 bit taking the settings from old installation every time. So I've installed the 64bit and set it from start. the stuttering doesn't happen but I'm getting Render queue 2-4 /12 present queue 1-3 /3 only in exclusive mode. windowed mode works fine with the right queues . EDIT 3 : Ha never mind I forgot that I have set 1 prerender in the NVCP for all programs and I didn't have the potplayer x64 to the list for 3 . so that's why EDIT 4 What does it mean if I have Async Reader in Grey in the Filters menu where Lav Filters and Madvr are showing ? For some reason Potplayer doesn't show me the Chapters lines on the media player bar with little marks, only if I reinstall and not using my old INI and registry files they appear, anyone know what could it be and if I can restore them after I use my settings ? EDIT 5 Using Prenderer in NVCP 2 and not 3 fix the issue it seems. should the NVCP Prenderer be lower than the MADVR prerender ? The async I mean is in the picture including the little Chapters bars , you can see I have only one, there should be more, every movie I have one or none, but madvr does detect them and I can choose them from the madvr try icon, with the time. Last edited by x7007; 6th January 2016 at 11:43. Reason: 10 bit madvr issue |
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edit: found this here https://pcmonitors.info/articles/cor...-and-amd-gpus/ in that picture there is a "my digital flat panels" tab which I dont have with my drivers (I use laptop drivers from leshcatlabs)
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This is generally handled this way because algorithms like NNEDI exactly double the resolution in one dimension per run, so running NNEDI once would double the vertical resolution (and its internally just run twice to double both dimensions).
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Unless I missed it, Crimson doesn't allow to set the dynamic range, even when using custom (or tools like RadeonMod, which don't support this in Crimson either).
That's why I went back to Catalyst 14.12, as the only way to get the correct levels with both MadVR and PowerDVD (which I use when I need full BD menus or 3D) was to set the driver to RGB Limited, which isn't recommended for MadVR, as it means the GPU is converting levels after MadVR. Not an issue if you only use MadVR obviously, as Crimson can be set to RGB Full and MadVR to whatever gives the correct levels on your display.
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And if I set 16-235 in madvr and 0-255 output on my nvidia gpu I can see 236-255 passing through. 0-15 don't. 0-255 in madvr and 16-235 on GPU is fine. From the little information I could gather about this, it seems the full range option for HDMI inputs is only present on US models of these plasmas. Quote:
Setting Games in nvidia driver switches the TV to Game preset. Movies -> Cinema preset Full Screen Videos -> True Cinema Desktop Programs -> True Cinema Photos -> True Cinema Auto Select -> True Cinema |
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Hi , I really want help about the situation , I know I fixed it but I want to know the reason or what is the setting you guys are using . it was working always good before, so I'm not sure what changed.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...57#post1752157 If you can answer all the questions please, but importantly. Should the NvCP Prerender should be less than the setting in Madvr ? Exclusive mode + 8 bit + NVCP Pre -3 + Madvr 3 or 4 there are no issues Exclusive mode + 10 bit + NVCP Pre -3 + Madvr 3 or 4 there are issues Exclusive mode + 10 bit + NVCP Pre -2 + Madvr 3 or 4 there are no isues If Nvidia prerender have Max Prerender of 4 , is that what you select ? or even so if it's 3 , what do you select in Madvr ? because if I select too high 6 or 8 the Render Queue is not filling and Prerender is at 1 and not full too. How do I know which is the best setting because no one said their settings. So is the thing in potplayer that only after fresh installation I can see the chapters marks on the movie, and while using my old INI file there is only 1 mark but madvr does show all chapters from the tray icon. i'm not sure what setting control that. Last edited by x7007; 7th January 2016 at 01:01. |
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How are you testing? Are you using the AVS-HD test patterns? If you cannot set your TV to accept full range you still do not care about being able to send BtB or WtW information. On a properly calibrated display 0-16 is all 0% brightness or 100% black and 235-255 is all the same 100% brightness. This means that even if everything below 16 gets clipped you don't care because you cannot see it. Maybe it is your TV doing the clipping? Is it calibrated such that 0-16 is 0% white but 235 is less than 100% white? Maybe it pushes the brightness past a nominal 100% white for WtW information? Plasmas don't have a well defined 100% white in my experience. E.g. A full screen area of 100% white will be much less bright compared to a 15% screen area of 100% white.
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OK, I've performed some investigations.
MPC-HC settings: Video Renderer: madVR Audio Renderer: ReClock ReClock settings: [x] PAL SpeedDown (force to 24fps) madVR settings: list all display modes madVR may switch to: 1080p24, 1080p25, 1080p30, 1080p50, 1080p60 [x] treat 25p movies as 24p (requires Reclock or VideoClock) All other settings are at their defaults, unless noted otherwise for the particular case.
As you can see above, it can be played perfectly at 30 Hz, too.
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obviously understood. but what about the issue with 10 bit ? it didn't happened before and it only happens when I try to use prerender 3 in the nvidia or some kind mix that the NVidia prerender is higher than Madvr. what can be the cause ? And no matter what prerender I put I don't have the issue with 8 bit. it just happens with 10 bit. I tested MPDN and 10 bit works fine there. I just try to find the issue, if it's madvr or potplayer. And what is Async Reader filter ? Btw, should I use Lav Splitter or Lav Splitter Source ? Somehow I don't know, I had my Display in Madvr Ctrl+J showing always 100.00000HZ steady, but I changed stuff and updated drivers and now it's 100.000355-361HZ not steady as before. does anyone knows what can possibly change the Display HZ ? I have laptop G751JT with 970GTX , using windows 8.1, I didn't change nvidia drivers, just updated Chipset drivers , Madvr , Potplayer. and some windows update hotfixes which I don't know if it happened before it or after. Should it be best if Display and Composition rate would be 1:1 with no clock deviation ? cause that's what I had before some changes. Can Gsync work in potplayer or MPDN ? cause trying to enabling it the Render queue is 4-12 /12 and Present queue 0-4 /4 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...57#post1752157 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...57#post1752157 EDIT 2 : I figured what was the problem with the Chapters bookmark while the movie playing I went to right click > Playback > Chapters/Bookmark > Clear all marked . now I have all the chapters marked correctly. EDIT 3 : If I am using in Nvidia control panel Prerender Use the default or 3 , it causing the issue to appear straight away at the 2nd full screen entering. EDIT 4 : On my laptop using NVCP prerender application default (3) and Madvr Pre Render 4 works fine. windows 8.1 Render queue 12-12 /12 But on my desktop NVCP prerender application default (3) and Madvr Pre Render 4 Render queue 2-4 /12 and present queue 3-4 /4 , why is the render queue cut ? and what could have issue when the issue seems to happens when actually the Render is full. MPDN 10 bit works fine, Last edited by x7007; 8th January 2016 at 06:11. |
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1. of cause it doesn't switch to 24p is has 50 FPS in this case. 2. you should never switch to 24p if video deinterlacing is used. 3. madVR has now 25 FPS so it is working 4. madVr is missing or ignoring the information that the stream is 50/60p. could be an lavfilter problem or could be a problem in madVR 5. working as intended NSTC 1. what GPU driver and settings are used? the AMD driver settings alter deinterlancing which can easily result in a terrible picture. 2. it should look the same but it doesn't. nothing has change it is still using the same AMD DXVA deinterlacer. 3. source is for sure true interlaced so film mode can't work. 4. film mode should alwasy switch to 24p so not sure about 3. 5. madVr is missing or ignoring the information that the stream is 50/60p. could be an lavfilter problem or could be a problem in madVR 6. working as intended madVR doesn't have an deitnerlacer it is using the DXVA deinterlancer for your video card. which is pretty broken on crimson... 25/30 deinterlacing should be avoided under any cost. madVR can use 25/30 DXVA interlacing the option can be found under trade quality for performence and yeah shouldn't be used. edit: there is no need to add 1080p30 if 1080p60 is flawless same for 1080p25 if 1080p50 exist. Last edited by huhn; 7th January 2016 at 04:50. |
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It seems the fix is using NVCP Pre renderer 3 and use Exclusive mode 3 as long as use Exclusive mode + 10 bit. Can someone help me with the other questions ? Async Reader , Lav Splitter or Lav Splitter Source ?
And all the rest of the questions are in the posts below. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...57#post1752157 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...57#post1752157 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...42#post1752242 |
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In Catalyst, once you select the pixel format (say RGB Full, which is the best option for MadVR) you can also select, separately, a dynamic range option (16-235 or 0-255) for other software like PowerDVD which use windows rendering, unlike MadVR. This allows to get the right video levels for both MadVR and PowerDVD, especially when you use a display set to HDMI standard (16-235) to work with other video sources, like a bluray player or a satellite box. That's the option that's gone in Crimson, so the only way to get the correct levels for both MadVR and PowerDVD is to set the driver to RGB Limited, which isn't ideal for MadVR as it means the driver is changing the levels behind its back. This level issue is more difficult to solve with PowerDVD due to a levels mismatch between 2D and 3D in RGB Full, but that's a different issue (and one I'm struggling to get past the first level support of Cyberlink as they don't understand it). Also Crimson crushes white in 3D (it only resolves up to 230 irrespective of the pixel format) with PowerDVD, which is another reason why I switched back to Catalyst 14.12. Got that?
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