Needed : help with translating subtitles from English

ChristianHJW · 12th June 2003, 15:36

Hi,

for the next matroska sample file we are planning a few nasty things, to show the 'power' of this container ....

I am currently working on a new version of my Starwars EP2 sniplet, but as my provider was indicating to my that my last sample file ( 10 MB ) created about 16 GB of traffic ( about 1600 downloads ), i am starting to get concerned about copyright problems, even if its a sniplet only.

There is this nasty Matrix Reloaded trailer in a 1000 x 540 resolution on the official matrix Homepage, but its in Quicktime, Stereo only and also one language ( english ) ..... and of course, without subs

....

My question to you :

Does anybody know of a hi-quality trailer on DVD ( i will buy it ), with a sharp picture, AC3 or DTS sound, preferably 2 or more languages, and also some subtitles ?

We have contact with a lot of people around the world, from Japan to Russia, and i am sure these people would help us translate the subs into their language, i just need some language subtitles track to start from ( preferabley english, french, german or spanish ), so we can translate this one subs track into several different languages.

Any recommendations are highly appreciated

Christian

mf · 12th June 2003, 15:45

With any trailer you will have copyright problems, just ask the publisher (movie company) nicely in the way you so adeptly can

. Don't ask any publisher that is associated with DRM/DMCA stuff though, because any snail can understand what matroska is going to be used for, and that although it also promotes their movie, it promotes piracy

.

Doom9 · 12th June 2003, 16:13

I have yet to see any DVD that has more than 2 languages for a trailer, in fact, even when the DVD contains 5 languages you'll be lucky if the trailer audio is available in anything but one language.

ChristianHJW · 12th June 2003, 16:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Doom9 I have yet to see any DVD that has more than 2 languages for a trailer

Well, in this case i'd be happy with 2 also

....

ChristianHJW · 14th June 2003, 15:56

OK, seems i better stick with my Starwars sample and hope they dont sue me for copyright violations

....

mf · 14th June 2003, 17:41

Quote:

Originally posted by ChristianHJW
OK, seems i better stick with my Starwars sample and hope they dont sue me for copyright violations ....

Like I said - Just mail George Lucas and ask nicely

. lucas@starwars.com

ChristianHJW · 14th June 2003, 21:15

I found a better way .. there is a nice person on the #xvid channel on freenode.net, he will make us a furious sample file based on the Quicktime Matrix trailer in 1000 x 500

.....

mf · 15th June 2003, 13:45

Well, of course it'll still have only one audio track (THANK GOD - dubbing SUCKS), but at least it'll be 5.1 vorbis (it already is

), and with loads of subtitles, of which English, Dutch, German and Russian are already done

. The video has also been encoded, the file will be about 40MB. I hope that's satisfying for all of you, comparing to quicktime:
Quicktime & Crappy stereo audio - 640x346 - 59MB
XviD & 5.1 Ogg - 768x576 anamorphic - 40MB (video 1st pass size 56MB)
And no, that's not a lame comparison as most companies make; it's the hard proven truth

.

ChristianHJW · 22nd June 2003, 16:01

Help !!

For the sample file that mf described above we need more translations of the english subtitles still.

As mf said above, we have currently

English
German
Dutch
Japanese
Russian
Ukranian
Finnish
Portugese

done, but we desperately need at least one Asian language also.

Dont worry, the trailer is only 2 mins and we are talking about max. 30 lines to translate. The english source is here

Please, email me the translation as soon as its finished to christian at matroska dot org , and put a small announcement that you have finished it here, so that no double work is done.

Thanks for your help !!

EDIT : mf is currently suspended, so he said i should announce here that everybody translating will be mentioned in the credits page also

..

Latexxx · 22nd June 2003, 19:55

I did a Finnish translation.

ChristianHJW · 22nd June 2003, 22:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Latexxx
I did a Finnish translation.

thanks mate, we received it

... portugese was done by OBcecado also ...

Hiro2k · 22nd June 2003, 22:30

I just sent you a Spanish one, I hope you can use it.

lamer_de · 23rd June 2003, 19:27

I sent you a Japanese translation. That's an asian language to start with

CU,
lamer_de

ChristianHJW · 23rd June 2003, 21:34

.. forwarded to mf, thanks sooo much, thats exactly what we needed

...

JagPanzer · 23rd June 2003, 22:56

I just sent you a Slovenian translation.

12th June 2003, 15:36	#1 \| Link
ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	Needed : help with translating subtitles from English Hi, for the next matroska sample file we are planning a few nasty things, to show the 'power' of this container .... I am currently working on a new version of my Starwars EP2 sniplet, but as my provider was indicating to my that my last sample file ( 10 MB ) created about 16 GB of traffic ( about 1600 downloads ), i am starting to get concerned about copyright problems, even if its a sniplet only. There is this nasty Matrix Reloaded trailer in a 1000 x 540 resolution on the official matrix Homepage, but its in Quicktime, Stereo only and also one language ( english ) ..... and of course, without subs .... My question to you : Does anybody know of a hi-quality trailer on DVD ( i will buy it ), with a sharp picture, AC3 or DTS sound, preferably 2 or more languages, and also some subtitles ? We have contact with a lot of people around the world, from Japan to Russia, and i am sure these people would help us translate the subs into their language, i just need some language subtitles track to start from ( preferabley english, french, german or spanish ), so we can translate this one subs track into several different languages. Any recommendations are highly appreciated Christian Last edited by ChristianHJW; 22nd June 2003 at 15:55.

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	I have yet to see any DVD that has more than 2 languages for a trailer, in fact, even when the DVD contains 5 languages you'll be lucky if the trailer audio is available in anything but one language. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	Help !! For the sample file that mf described above we need more translations of the english subtitles still. As mf said above, we have currently English German Dutch Japanese Russian Ukranian Finnish Portugese done, but we desperately need at least one Asian language also. Dont worry, the trailer is only 2 mins and we are talking about max. 30 lines to translate. The english source is here Please, email me the translation as soon as its finished to christian at matroska dot org , and put a small announcement that you have finished it here, so that no double work is done. Thanks for your help !! EDIT : mf is currently suspended, so he said i should announce here that everybody translating will be mentioned in the credits page also .. Last edited by ChristianHJW; 23rd June 2003 at 21:35.

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Latexxx Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 618	I did a Finnish translation. __________________ A/V moderator @ hydrogenaudio.org My weird old sh*t: http://www.nic.fi/~lhahne/ http://last.fm/user/Latexxx/

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JagPanzer XviD and Matroska user :) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Slovenia Posts: 30	Slovenian translation I just sent you a Slovenian translation. __________________ There's got to be just more to it than this Or tell me why do we exist I'd like to think that when I die I'd get a chance another time And to return and live again Reincarnate, play the game Again and again and again Iron Maiden - Infinite Dreams

12th June 2003, 15:45	#2 \| Link
mf · Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,729	With any trailer you will have copyright problems, just ask the publisher (movie company) nicely in the way you so adeptly can . Don't ask any publisher that is associated with DRM/DMCA stuff though, because any snail can understand what matroska is going to be used for, and that although it also promotes their movie, it promotes piracy .

14th June 2003, 15:56	#5 \| Link
ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	OK, seems i better stick with my Starwars sample and hope they dont sue me for copyright violations ....

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ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	I found a better way .. there is a nice person on the #xvid channel on freenode.net, he will make us a furious sample file based on the Quicktime Matrix trailer in 1000 x 500 .....

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mf · Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,729	Well, of course it'll still have only one audio track (THANK GOD - dubbing SUCKS), but at least it'll be 5.1 vorbis (it already is ), and with loads of subtitles, of which English, Dutch, German and Russian are already done . The video has also been encoded, the file will be about 40MB. I hope that's satisfying for all of you, comparing to quicktime: Quicktime & Crappy stereo audio - 640x346 - 59MB XviD & 5.1 Ogg - 768x576 anamorphic - 40MB (video 1st pass size 56MB) And no, that's not a lame comparison as most companies make; it's the hard proven truth .

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Hiro2k New Container Mod Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cuernavaca, Mexico Posts: 770	I just sent you a Spanish one, I hope you can use it.

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lamer_de Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: somewhere far beyond Posts: 270	I sent you a Japanese translation. That's an asian language to start with CU, lamer_de

23rd June 2003, 21:34	#14 \| Link
ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	.. forwarded to mf, thanks sooo much, thats exactly what we needed ...

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