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30th October 2012, 00:59 | #15142 | Link | |
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Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a working "hack" for Windows 8 yet (the tool provided just changes a few registry keys to point to dslibdvdnav) and I have been unable to play DVDs on it since upgrading. It would be nice if Madshi were able to find the source of the Macrovision errors, especially now that LAV Filters supports DVD decoding, but it seems to be a low priority for him, as he doesn't watch DVD. For me, DVD is probably 50% of what I watch now, after being Blu-ray exclusive for a number of years. (the rest is probably 25% web, and 25% Blu-ray content) There are a number of titles I own which are probably never going to see a Blu-ray release, or are very low priority for it. These days, there seem to be few archive releases of interest to me on Blu-ray, and the majority of new releases are definitely of no interest to me. |
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This no longer works on Windows 8. Update: figured out a way to get that working now Neither dslibdvdnav.ax or the XP qdvd.dll are good solutions though. They don't work with all of my discs, and qdvd.dll has a tendency to crash the player when seeking. (video plays but the player becomes unresponsive) There was a brief period where ffdshow Video Decoder, LAV Audio + madVR did work with the Windows 7 DVD Navigator, and that worked flawlessly with all the discs that I tried. Last edited by 6233638; 30th October 2012 at 05:00. |
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DVDs work fine with renderers other than madVR, so I don't know that the problem lies with LAV, however. (ffdshow audio decoder doesn't work either) Neither Madshi, nor Nevcariel seem to have any interest in this problem though. (and Nevcariel says that DVDs work on his system) I did at least figure out how to get the old hacks working on Windows 8, though they don't work nearly as well as the Windows 7 (and presumably 8) DVD Navigator does. Last edited by 6233638; 30th October 2012 at 05:06. |
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Hi, I found that by enabling windowed overlay I can get glitch free playback on my secondary monitor (my TV) without having to use D3D full screen exclusive. I dislike FSE due to various drawbacks.
What are disadvantages to using windowed overlay? Also, when I try to get image capture, MPC still says it's not supported with madVR. thanks
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Back when it was last working, I did bring it up with madshi/nevcariel. 0.50.1 was the last version of LAV Filters where DVD playback would work. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...77#post1572877 Unfortunately I didn't include my madVR/MPC-HC version numbers in that post, and can't seem to get DVD playback working again even with 0.50.1, but I'm on Windows 8 now, which probably changes things. Nevcariel said that he basically hadn't changed anything relating to LAV Audio in 0.50.2, but something must have changed that stopped it from working. |
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31st October 2012, 02:22 | #15154 | Link |
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The same problems exists with Haali's video renderer. Guess what madVR and Haali have in common. They are both not renderers from Microsoft! Nobody here knows what exactly triggers the Macrovision failure. We can only assume the DVD navigator filter checks which video renderer is used, and probably also the audio renderer. Unknown renderer -> failure.
The LAV audio decoder does not behave any differently whether EVR or madVR is used. Unless you can specify what it does wrong, there is no bug.
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Anything beyond LAV Audio 0.50.1 breaks DVD playback and I get Macrovision errors again. 0.50.1 is missing a lot of features that I currently use though. |
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And it still works perfectly with the latest version of everything for me. I developed LAVs DVD functionality without having to hack anything, and i regularly tested on madVR as well.
Like i said before, there weren't any changes that would influence this in the version directly after 0.50.1, its more random then anything. It was pure coincedence that it somehow worked on that version, why - noone knows.
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That was a completely clean install of Windows 7 SP1 with nothing installed but the system drivers and the list above. (it was specifically to try that again) And for what it's worth, the drivers were the latest Intel INF, MEI, RST & Ethernet, Nvidia Graphics & Audio, Marvell SATA. Anything beyond 0.50.1 doesn't work with DVDs in either of my physical drives, or loading an image via Virtual Clone Drive, and having AnyDVD installed/running or not doesn't make a difference. I've even tried it on other machines. The only thing I can think of is that you're using some sort of drive emulation software that bypasses the Macrovision protection. (AnyDVD should remove it, but doesn't seem to make a difference) Do you have any plans on upgrading to Windows 8? |
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I installed it on my Ultrabook for testing, not sure when/if i'll upgrade my Development PC.
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Ok, but these pitch-preserving algorithm usually cost audio quality. It's better to use a non-pitch-preserving algorithm. Of course you should then try to get the refresh rate as accurate as possible, so pitch doesn't change noticeably. Quote:
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+ "FFDShow Video" OR "Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder" OR MPC-HC MPEG2 Decoder -> MadVR + qdvd.dll (Win7) I tried the above out of what you listed, and that does seem to bypass the Macrovision error on my fully-patched and hotfixed Win7 install as well. Update to LAV Audio 0.50.2+ and the error returns. Use LAV Audio 0.50.1 only without FFDShow RAW Audio and the error returns. Use "Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder" with or without FFDShow RAW Audio and the error returns. Use MPC-HC's internal audio decoders and the error returns. It's too bad it's not possible to mix and match LAV Filter Video and Audio components of different versions for testing. Also of interest is that any combinations of filters seems to work with madVR if you manually build a graph with DVDNavigator in GraphEdit or GraphStudio. You can't use DVD menus within GraphEdit, but it does make me wonder if it's possible for madVR or MPC-HC to load a fixed dvd.grf (with open output pins for audio & video renderer connections) for DVD playback, and somehow get menus/navigation to work. |
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