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Aero was making HR hiccup for me on Vista SP1/48Hz using Reclock(HR's jitter figure was showing that Aero was enforcing the VSYNC no matter what...and it was making the picture noticeably stutter every few secs), not so with mVR on W7?
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No, I can't. My XP machine plays this fine with madVR. And my win7 machine doesn't have a DVD drive, as I said.
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As I said, I might add another option to allow custom levels definition, but I've not decided that yet. But even if I don't do that, you'll still be able to achieve your goal by using the contrast/brightness controls I'll add to madVR sooner or later. Quote:
Playback with Aero is smooth for me with win7. However, I'm currently not using Reclock. Don't know how well the combination of Aero + madVR + Reclock works. If you do combine Reclock + madVR, you should probably turn Reclock's VSync correction off. Last edited by madshi; 16th May 2010 at 09:58. |
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Macrovision errors. madshi, can you mount the iso as a virtual drive using Virtual Clone Drive? When you play the "disc", the result should be the same as a real drive. I assure you, there is a real issue. |
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I don't doubt that at all. As I said, my biggest problem is how to reproduce the problem. But don't worry, I have a few virtual machines with different OSs. I'll see if I can reproduce it "somewhere". |
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I use Win7 + Aero + madVR + Reclock (VSync correction off), and when matching refresh rate to fps (or a multiple), playback is perfectly smooth. |
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And many people watch movies. And I'd say, for movies best possible quality is probably more important than for broadcasted TV shows, because broadcasted TV shows don't have such a high image quality, anyway. |
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Probably you didn´t see any good broadcasts, yet. With some of the HD-ones I know you´ll be quite astounded. At least I was. With madVR and a good calibrated monitor these come to life. Even shows like "Saturday Night" (for the US guys) have an extremely good picture. All this of course is only valid with the HDTV-feeds which in the US are quite common and will get more common here in germany in the coming years. Last edited by iSunrise; 16th May 2010 at 15:25. Reason: Spelling |
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but I guess several ppl here use the Reclock/Aero/mVR combination anyway, dunno why Aero was making HR so upset..anyway, you said that the next mVR version will include logging, so hopefully you'll be able to "see" why Reclock(w/ its VSYNC correction turned off) always craps out after 45/60' Last edited by leeperry; 16th May 2010 at 14:55. |
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Anyway, I think we don't get any further with this topic, so that's my last comment on this for now. |
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Could you reproduce the bug report I posted some days ago? Since you didn´t specifically mention it in your last posts. Just wondering if you needed anymore info on that. Last edited by iSunrise; 16th May 2010 at 16:33. |
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I did a small 5 second "rewind" and got into a state where for every group of 8 frames, the 1st and 2nd frame were switched. Doing a new seek didn't do anything, but stopping the video and and seeking back to where I was fixed it. I know it's a little vague, and I can't reproduce it, sorry... |
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1) resample audio to match video v-sync rate 2) let A/V sync drift 3) change display's v-sync rate (powerstrip minimal on the fly adjustments) I cannot think anything else that wouldn't conflict with the math. Quote:
So I wont probably investigate that proposed side of the MPC-HC audio renderer (althou I think it already uses the audio HW clock as clock source, of course that wont be happening after adding the custom, modified reference clock time keeping). I simply don't have enough free time. Working with MP1/2 + EVR presenter + audio renderer wont be that fruitful when you have only few spare hours per a week. |
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1) "resample" video -> blend video frames together (e.g. for 24fps movie on 60Hz display, show frames A, A, (A+B)/2, B, B) 2) drop/repeat frames only in scenes where there's (almost) no motion A similar solution to 2) could also be done in the audio renderer: Don't resample audio at all. Instead drop/repeat "silence". This will be more difficult with audio, though, because with some (many?) movies there's always some background music, so there is never "silence". On the video side I think almost every movie has some scenes where there's (almost) no motion for a couple of frames. So I think 2) should work pretty well for video. Especially if the HTPC is setup carefully, so that only a very small number of video frames need to be dropped/repeated per movie. Quote:
I know that problem very well. |
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About the drop few frames during whole movie. I cannot tolerate that. I can already archive that result with MP1 and using it's EVR presenter on good HW (minimal A/V clock drifting). So, looks like for me the Reclock replacement is the only viable solution for now (or maybe to as James to implement few new features into Reclock so video renderers can communicate and advice the reference clock time generation). Last edited by starla; 17th May 2010 at 12:18. |
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