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26th September 2017, 14:45 | #46001 | Link | |
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26th September 2017, 15:43 | #46003 | Link |
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Indeed, and it often differs among models made by the same manufacturer. For example I have an LG LCD and neutral sharpness is actually 50. On my LG plasma, neutral sharpness is 10. It's definitely not a setting you can blindly set to 0.
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26th September 2017, 15:46 | #46004 | Link | |
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https://www.missingremote.com/guide/...bration-part-i Steps 4, 5 and 7. Download mp4 from the link Asmodian told you and play them with the player you use with madvr. Quote:
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26th September 2017, 16:57 | #46005 | Link | |
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26th September 2017, 16:59 | #46006 | Link |
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There is no point in your playing around with setting on the PC until you have set the TV correctly. If the THX modes (bright and dark room)look bad it is because you have not yet calibrated them. One thing is for sure, if you use the dynamic setting the TV will be doing alot of processing. If your dead against using the THX setting, the next best would be the cinema setting. I owned panasonic plasma for many years and never had an issue with the THX modes, they are the only modes you should use really. Raz Last edited by Razoola; 26th September 2017 at 17:04. |
26th September 2017, 17:26 | #46007 | Link |
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Thx madshi
HDR switch on RX460 is working now (92.4) But i have still this strange "issue" (maybe not a bug). AMD CP is set to RGB Full 4:4:4, madvr 0-255 10bit or more. all automatic switching + hdr let madvr dec. Playing 1080p 8bit everything fine. 4k50 looks good for me, madvr says 10bit but Avr still says 8bit 4k23 HDR, HDR working says 10 bit, AVR still says 8bit.(colors looking right) If i set AMD CP to 10bit 1080p 8bit colors are wrong(AVR says 10bit) 4k50 madvr says 10bit, AVR 8bit(Colors i.o) 4k23 HDR, madvr and AVR report 10bit(Colors i.o). Strange? |
26th September 2017, 18:18 | #46008 | Link |
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clock deviation 0.00050% smooth motion off (settings) D3D1 1 fullscreen windowed (8 bit) NV12,8 bit,4:2:0 movie 2 5.000 fps (says source filter) I 720x576-> 720x437,2.34:1 (35mm film) scale 0,70,720,507 -> 0,130,1920,949 touch window from inside chroma> NGU Sharp (mcd) luma x> NGU Sharp (high)4x < luma y> NGU Sharp (high) 4x < chroma> Bicubic60AR vsync 1 6.67ms, frame 40.OOms matrix BT.601 (best guess) primaries EBU/PAL (best guess) limited range (says upstream) deinterlacing off (says upstream) decoder queue 1 5-16 / 16 subtitle queue 15-16 / 16 upload queue 7-8 / 8 render queue 7-8 / 8 present queue 7-8 / 8 dropped framesO delay Fames 0 presentation glitches 0 average stats rendering 17.01 ms present 0.07m s max stats (Ss) s— _______ rendering 17.59ms ____ present 0.1 2ms - _________ what should I be careful not to bring the graphics card to the limit that any video type? |
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display 60.00030Hz
clock deviation 0.00050% smooth motion off (settings) D3D1 1 fullscreen windowed (8 bit) NV12,8 bit,4:2:0 movie 2 5.000 fps (says source filter) I 720x576-> 720x437,2.34:1 (35mm film) scale 0,70,720,507 -> 0,130,1920,949 touch window from inside chroma> NGU Sharp (mcd) luma x> NGU Sharp (high)4x < luma y> NGU Sharp (high) 4x < chroma> Bicubic60AR vsync 1 6.67ms, frame 40.OOms matrix BT.601 (best guess) primaries EBU/PAL (best guess) limited range (says upstream) deinterlacing off (says upstream) decoder queue 1 5-16 / 16 subtitle queue 15-16 / 16 upload queue 7-8 / 8 render queue 7-8 / 8 present queue 7-8 / 8 dropped framesO delay Fames 0 presentation glitches 0 average stats rendering 17.01 ms present 0.07m s max stats (Ss) s— _______ rendering 17.59ms ____ present 0.1 2ms - _________ what should I look exactly? |
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That is why I also have a "Custom" mode which is more pure than Dynamic, as it rids of special colour adjustments, uses the native display colours, disabled extended blacks and adaptive gamma. However, it still uses an S gamma curve instead of 2.2/2.4, because it simply looks better to me and everyone else I tested it with. So the modes selected and configured where pretty much gone under a vote/discussion under multiple movies (many times the same over and over), so to speak. Dynamic is more or less for problem solving or problematic content, otherwise I use the Custom settings I mentioned above. But no, I do not want to use the THX modes under any circumstances, they look completely broken to even use as a basis and tweak from there, something I cannot really do considering almost all options are grayed out (even advanced settings). So calibration, even if I knew how to do it, is not possible on these modes. |
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And you should be wary of rushing into conclusions, considering the 'broken' limited-limited-limited provides nearly the same image as a blu-ray player with a disc does on two different blu-ray players and TVs. |
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26th September 2017, 20:43 | #46017 | Link |
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sorry there is nothing to talk about limited range GPU and limited range madVR is wrong. it can't be correct under any circumstance if the rest is working correctly and setup correctly. the image output from the GPU is not limited and not full range so it is wrong.
1+1 = 2 or maybe 10 but not 3. if the GPU is not applying the range compression and/or the AVR in the middle is playing around with the image to make it somehow work has nothing todo will not change that this setup is wrong. |
26th September 2017, 20:55 | #46019 | Link |
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http://madshi.net/madVR/NGU/clown4xNguSharp.png I do not like
http://madshi.net/madVR/NGU/clown4xNguSoft.pnghow much do I like, what are the settings to observe them? sd to 1080p |
26th September 2017, 20:56 | #46020 | Link |
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It's been repeated several times what madVR is doing for limited and full range setting.
Everything about Panasonic or others display with thx, dynamic etc. modes imho is really off topic here. I understand that home cinema setup is difficult with all the different devices and settings, but I think for this kind of problems its better to start a new thread. @dvd1: Yes! |
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