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Quick question for Mp4Guy,
For the M4G HRM V2 matrix, you suggest to: Quote:
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Well im looking to get the most quality out of my x264 encodes, mainly anime, i have a lot of confidence in your ability mp4 guy
Who can recommend what matrix to use for dvd sourced anime encoding? Or is there not much point in loading one of these up for anime encodes Also if you use one of these matrixes do you turn b frame mode to none? Sorry, trying to learn -_-
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too bad nothing like this can fix the bloody avatar rips (still trying -_- lol) I thought using these would improve the quality of what x264 would save etc but guess i was wrong (or just not in this situation)
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The most reasons why people used custom matrices in the past are now obsolete, thanks to VAQ and Psy-RDO.
Furthermore VAQ and Psy-RDO don't work as expected with certain custom matrices...
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That's what I meant. Bad results isn't what I expect.
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For x264 with all the tuning done based on the flat matrix, it makes sense to now remove custom matrix support.
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It never makes sense to remove support for something when it costs you nothing to leave it intact. Besides, almost all of x264, including the psychovisual's work exactly as they should with cqm's. Ugly skipped mv's remain the only real "mistake" a matrix will induce x264 to make, the other unwanted behavior is mearly the result of transients being butchered by matrixes removing their highest energy components more aggressively, VAQ quantizing reqions with transients more aggressively, psy trellis also quantizing transients more aggressively, and psy-rd de-tuning rd decisions in order to make the picture more closely resemble the local complexity of the source by introducing "artifacts" (which is usually bad for transients).
Matrices and x264's psy enhancements aren't incompatible, or even bad to use together, you just have to be carefull to avoid overdoing the transient hatred. I should also probably update this thread and my deblocking FAQ to take into account that with VAQ 0:0 is usually the best deblocking setting, even with matrices. |
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IMO Matrix are simply useless now with x264 simply because psy tool have same objective with more efficiency result. If you want really use CQM the better way now is really soft modification with all coef (with flat16 ref) like that for example: INTRA4X4_LUMA = 12,12,14,16, 12,14,16,20, 14,16,20,25, 16,20,25,32 INTRA4X4_CHROMAU = 12,12,14,16, 12,14,16,20, 14,16,20,25, 16,20,25,32 INTRA4X4_CHROMAV = 12,12,14,16, 12,14,16,20, 14,16,20,25, 16,20,25,32 INTER4X4_LUMA = 14,14,15,16, 14,15,16,17, 15,16,17,18, 16,17,18,19 INTER4X4_CHROMAU = 14,14,15,16, 14,15,16,17, 15,16,17,18, 16,17,18,19 INTER4X4_CHROMAV = 14,14,15,16, 14,15,16,17, 15,16,17,18, 16,17,18,19 INTRA8X8_LUMA = 12,12,12,12,13,14,15,16, 12,12,12,13,14,15,16,17, 12,12,13,14,15,16,17,19, 12,13,14,15,16,18,20,22, 13,14,15,16,18,21,23,27, 14,15,16,18,21,24,28,37, 15,16,17,20,23,28,39,48, 16,17,19,22,27,37,48,68 INTER8X8_LUMA = 14,14,14,14,15,15,15,16, 14,14,14,14,15,15,16,17, 14,14,14,15,15,16,17,18, 14,14,15,15,16,17,18,19, 15,15,15,16,17,18,19,21, 15,15,16,17,18,20,22,26, 15,16,17,18,19,22,27,32, 16,17,18,19,21,26,32,44
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I always use psy optimisation and AQ though, even when testing matrices. I've never done a test against my matrices and DS's psy ops. Because I'm fairly certain I know who would lose. And it doesn't make sense to create a matrix that requires features of the encoder to be disabled.
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well it's definitively not the case for all the mp4 guy matrix.
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