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Old 15th April 2008, 17:30   #1  |  Link
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Blu-ray Encoding?

What software choices are there for blu-ray video encoding. Or should i say re-encoding.

So far tried Nero Vision, first time tried Create Blu-ray disc option, didn't notice that that option only supported interlaced. Then tried export movie in BD compatible MP4 file, in progressive.

But nero simply can't follow instructions, did 2 pass VBR, set it to target size of 12gb, but instead nero decided to output 26gb file.

Also tried Adobe Encore, problem with encode that it will only accept steams. Tried twice, everysingle time end result was a file that had horrible out of sync issues.

are there any other choices out there? something that doesn't cost more then a car? so no scenarist.
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Old 15th April 2008, 21:06   #2  |  Link
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TSmuxer is free, and (I think?) it should work for what your trying to do? Just select "Create Blu-Ray Disk" under output. Not exactly sure what you were trying to do to be honest.
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Old 15th April 2008, 21:45   #3  |  Link
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This might be one of the answers:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=136505
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Old 16th April 2008, 15:30   #4  |  Link
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actually i'm looking for a way to fit two movies on one blank.

for example movie A is 1 hour and 50 minutes and original file is only 13gb.

there is no reason for 1 hour and 30 minute movie to take up 20gb.

trying to find a good program to re-encode it to smaller size, and then burn on disc.
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Old 16th April 2008, 17:29   #5  |  Link
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TMPGEnc Xpress is a great program if your looking to say, convert a 1080p Blu-Ray movie to 720p, maybe WMV, H.264?AVC or whatever. It's not free however and will take upwards of 12 hours (and thats on a fast dual or quad-core machine) to encode on 20+ gig file. I have had success in the past doing this although TMPGEnc is VERY finicky about what it will and will-not open based on what codecs you have installed, other programs etc...I've been able to convert movies, such as the Fifth Element from about a 32gb 1080p file to about 11gb 720 WMV. I stopped doing this though because I bought a 1080p projector ant 120inch screen and the loss in quality is very noticeable at that size :P
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Old 16th April 2008, 19:06   #6  |  Link
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i recommend mainconcept reference encoder, especially vc1.
I tried the demo version, it is great
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Old 16th April 2008, 21:31   #7  |  Link
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Music man

I have you been able to get a complaint VC-1 out of Main Concepts. It only works on progressive streams for me. I believe thats what one of my friends heard directly from Main Concepts has well.

Willing to share any advice using MC for BD on all 3 codecs?
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Old 16th April 2008, 22:58   #8  |  Link
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hi eric69 - i am not entirely sure what you are looking for, but i had used it to convert mpeg2 hd files and h264 from hd-dvd (before h264 info).
in the latter case, that was flagged as 1080i, i chose the output to 1080p with vc1. i had tested output avc/h264 once, but could not really see a difference and processing time with avc was almost double.
my target was blu-ray disc on all cases, so i want 1080p.
does that help?
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Old 16th April 2008, 23:36   #9  |  Link
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I just had problems importing VC-1 1080i streams....was wondering if you saw the same issues. 1080p import fine. Thanks
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Old 17th April 2008, 00:58   #10  |  Link
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understood , import depends on direct show filter, i had vc1 import problems as well
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Old 22nd April 2008, 03:02   #11  |  Link
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how much is that mainconcept program?
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how much is that mainconcept program?
sorry, don't know, i used test version only
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Old 22nd April 2008, 15:38   #13  |  Link
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ok, i just noticed something weird

in nero vision HD-DVD project is allowed to encoded in progressive, but BD only in interlaced.

will try shrinking (re-encoding) two clips in HD-DVD project, re-mux the EVO files to m2ts, and burn them on BD.

does anyone know can BD players play two titles on a single disc? with DVD you could burn two titles on an disc with out a menu, and you could jump from first title to second title.
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Old 22nd April 2008, 16:04   #14  |  Link
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You need:
-MeGUI (+ffmpeg) - the best and free AVC encoder
-haali-splitter
-ffdshow
-Media Player Classic Homecinema
-tsMuxeR for muxing and generating BD structure
-ImgBurn

nothing more.
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Old 23rd April 2008, 00:33   #15  |  Link
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well isnīt x264 the best h264 encoder in the world?
I have never seen anybody encoding h264-stuff with ffmpeg?!
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Old 25th April 2008, 17:09   #16  |  Link
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would you have any good tutorials/guides?

I will give up with nero.

basically, i would like to be able to demux video from audio.
re-encode the video in proper 24fps progresive h264.

mux back the video and audio to bd structure.
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Old 25th April 2008, 20:45   #17  |  Link
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@ nekrosoft

Thatīs exactly what Iīm doing. Without the encoding to true 24p.
I use the original 25p which work absolutely fine on my BD-P1400.

My way:
h264tscutter - to cut dvb-s2 stream
gdavcindex - for avisynth script and demuxing of audio
Megui - (re)encoding with x264
tsMuxer to mux audio with video and to build bd structure
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Old 27th April 2008, 22:00   #18  |  Link
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have you had any luck fitting two independent movies on single disc?
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Old 27th April 2008, 23:04   #19  |  Link
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have a look into the tsmuxer thread.

by the help of "Nero" there is a way to do that.
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Old 27th April 2008, 23:11   #20  |  Link
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haven't noticed anything, its a very long thread.

i was thinking about doing a dummy 2 file project and then replaceing the m2ts files with actuall movie. not sure if this will work
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