Player issue with dvddecrypter/maestro movie

equilibrium · 8th January 2003, 21:39

Hi. I've been stacking a range of different .img files to my disks from DVD Maestro whilst waiting for a 105, which I now have.

Some are re-encodes, some are gutted down by ifoedit and then .img by Maestro, but....

A lucky few are either dvd5's to start with or the whole contents of a dvd9 fit on a 5 without trimming anything. For these ones I ripped the entire contents with DVD Decrypter into a VIDEO_TS subfolder and added an emptry AUDIO_TS folder and then went straight into DVD Maestro and built a .img file.

I have burnt one of these to a Verbatim 2x dvd-r. Through Powerdvd on my PC it is fine but on my Cyberhome ADL528 the onscreen display pops up DVD when the disk is accessed but when you play it Stays at 00 00 00:00:00 and doesn't go to the menu or play the movie, you also can't choose menu with the remote, so it won't play and is useless.

I was wondering if, with these straightforward rip/image ones if I needed to have done the 'Get VTS Sectors' option in Ifoedit? I can't see why because I have not changed anything about the structure.

Cheers

Equilibrium

equilibrium · 9th January 2003, 00:37

In the next version I fixed two things at once and the movie plays fine now. As the Verbatim disks are £2.50 ($3.75) a time I'd rather not blow more seeing which thing did it

One was to burn as UDF 1.2 the other was to run it through ifoedit get VTS sectors.

So a simpler summary after all this is, does a movie that was ripped entirely and not modified structurely still need VTS sectors remapping?

Cheers

Equilibrium

kilroy · 9th January 2003, 17:29

hey buddy..if its a 1:1 copy and no reencoding or such needs to be done because it already fits on 1 dvdr i would just make an iso with dvd decrypter, MODE-IFO-READ, then burn it with dvd decrypter MODE-IFO-WRITE..works like a charm..dont know if that helps but there is no reason to rip all vobs to a video_ts file if its a 1:1 copy..its just a waste of time buy...hope this helps get back to us..

oddyseus · 9th January 2003, 17:57

both of them actually did the trick. DVDs r supposed to follow the 1.2 specs and GET VTS SECTORS r needed to fine adjust the pointers because of disk slack due to various sizes available.

If u have noticed a file never occupies the same space on different sized disks allthough its absolute size remains the same.

Recently I am coming to a conclusion that the disk serving the movie to the burner shouldn't be fragmented a lot. Although this is something to be researched further.

kilroy · 9th January 2003, 20:04

u dont need to do get vts sectors if its a 1:1 copy and u burn the iso..i always do that..as for the other stuff you lost me but i trust ya

oddyseus · 10th January 2003, 08:46

Yes Kilroy is right and I wasn't clear on the subject.

U don't need a get vts ... as long u decrypted on iso.

equilibrium · 10th January 2003, 10:06

Thank you both very much for your input, it's a great help in my transistion from svcd to dvdr creation.

The only issue I seem to have now is with this new DRV105, I have to run the simulation in Nero before the burn because quite often the process freezes on the LeadIn creation, if you kill off nero and reboot it will be fine next time but that blank is then useless. So if I run a simulation first I catch it, reboot and then it is alright next time?

Weird !

8th January 2003, 21:39	#1 \| Link
equilibrium Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 122	Player issue with dvddecrypter/maestro movie Hi. I've been stacking a range of different .img files to my disks from DVD Maestro whilst waiting for a 105, which I now have. Some are re-encodes, some are gutted down by ifoedit and then .img by Maestro, but.... A lucky few are either dvd5's to start with or the whole contents of a dvd9 fit on a 5 without trimming anything. For these ones I ripped the entire contents with DVD Decrypter into a VIDEO_TS subfolder and added an emptry AUDIO_TS folder and then went straight into DVD Maestro and built a .img file. I have burnt one of these to a Verbatim 2x dvd-r. Through Powerdvd on my PC it is fine but on my Cyberhome ADL528 the onscreen display pops up DVD when the disk is accessed but when you play it Stays at 00 00 00:00:00 and doesn't go to the menu or play the movie, you also can't choose menu with the remote, so it won't play and is useless. I was wondering if, with these straightforward rip/image ones if I needed to have done the 'Get VTS Sectors' option in Ifoedit? I can't see why because I have not changed anything about the structure. Cheers Equilibrium

9th January 2003, 17:57	#4 \| Link
oddyseus Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hellas Posts: 1,598	both of them actually did the trick. DVDs r supposed to follow the 1.2 specs and GET VTS SECTORS r needed to fine adjust the pointers because of disk slack due to various sizes available. If u have noticed a file never occupies the same space on different sized disks allthough its absolute size remains the same. Recently I am coming to a conclusion that the disk serving the movie to the burner shouldn't be fragmented a lot. Although this is something to be researched further. __________________ regards oddyseus "when u r aiming for the impossible everything else is within reach." Mike ps. respect the forum rules, read, search and only then post.

10th January 2003, 08:46	#6 \| Link
oddyseus Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hellas Posts: 1,598	Yes Kilroy is right and I wasn't clear on the subject. U don't need a get vts ... as long u decrypted on iso. __________________ regards oddyseus "when u r aiming for the impossible everything else is within reach." Mike ps. respect the forum rules, read, search and only then post.

10th January 2003, 10:06	#7 \| Link
equilibrium Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 122	Thank you both very much for your input, it's a great help in my transistion from svcd to dvdr creation. The only issue I seem to have now is with this new DRV105, I have to run the simulation in Nero before the burn because quite often the process freezes on the LeadIn creation, if you kill off nero and reboot it will be fine next time but that blank is then useless. So if I run a simulation first I catch it, reboot and then it is alright next time? Weird ! Last edited by equilibrium; 10th January 2003 at 10:09.

9th January 2003, 00:37	#2 \| Link
equilibrium Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 122	In the next version I fixed two things at once and the movie plays fine now. As the Verbatim disks are £2.50 ($3.75) a time I'd rather not blow more seeing which thing did it One was to burn as UDF 1.2 the other was to run it through ifoedit get VTS sectors. So a simpler summary after all this is, does a movie that was ripped entirely and not modified structurely still need VTS sectors remapping? Cheers Equilibrium

9th January 2003, 17:29	#3 \| Link
kilroy Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 74	hey buddy..if its a 1:1 copy and no reencoding or such needs to be done because it already fits on 1 dvdr i would just make an iso with dvd decrypter, MODE-IFO-READ, then burn it with dvd decrypter MODE-IFO-WRITE..works like a charm..dont know if that helps but there is no reason to rip all vobs to a video_ts file if its a 1:1 copy..its just a waste of time buy...hope this helps get back to us..

9th January 2003, 20:04	#5 \| Link
kilroy Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 74	u dont need to do get vts sectors if its a 1:1 copy and u burn the iso..i always do that..as for the other stuff you lost me but i trust ya